you can always argue weather you should work the players hard or not , I think teams have won both ways. The negative Jouron impact is two fold. 1. His desire for undersized and fast defense players, at a time when almost every other team was moving in the oppisite direction . Second his need to have a very simple offensive scheme . How many times did we hear our players saying that the other team seemed to know exactly what we were doing.?. Chan and buddy can fix both but it will not be done in one year. However I am amazed at how quickly they are putting together a new d. I think with one more good offseason the d has a chance to be very good. I don't know what to make of the offense with big question marks at left tackle and Quaterback it is anybodies guess on how it will turn outl.