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Right on cue

That was actually White. I’m not sure I’ve ever seen him drop a pass.

Good grief

Chiefs definitely miss Hunt—and I don’t mean Lamar.

Shocked that they didn’t.

Game on again

It’s a viable option when you know you’re going for it on fourth down. nice first quarter, Chiefs.

Yes, in garbage time.

Andy Reid vs Bill Belichick.

Not looking good, folks.

If K.C. punts on this drive, it would feel like this game is over.

It proves no such thing. It proves that NE can run the ball, which we already knew, and that KC’s defense is not very good, also not exactly a newsflash.

K.C. is going to have to score a TD pretty much every possession. That’s a lot of pressure on Mahomes.

I think the greater offensive output has less to do with rule changes (although they certainly play a part) than coaches slowly recognizing that passing the football is a better way to score points and win football games. For decades, NFL coaches were biased in favor of running the football—“only three thing can happen when you pass the football, and two of them are bad”, “you have run and stop the run”. Much of this realization can be traced to analytics; passing has always been a superior way to move the football; it’s just taken football people a long time to understand that. As a result, teams are throwing more, devising better, more difficult to defend passing concepts, and devoting greater resources to developing the passing game. As defenses try to adjust, some smart coaches (like Belichick) will exploit it by going run-heavy against defenses geared to stop the pass, but that won’t change the basic fact: Passing is better.

Did your friend play in the SEC recently? Because that’s what we’re talking about, not UB or Pitt or even Penn State.

The Raiders would not trade those picks for number 9, much less 15. Gruden is stupid, but not that stupid.

Pass the pipe...

Both valid points. Forgot about the Raiders other first next year, although it’s likely to be in the 20’s.

Well, since NFL teams who pass for 105 yards or less routinely lose by less than 28.5 points, your point is utterly meaningless. #Exposed

And he beat the Bengals on the road in that game. #Owned

You’re joking, right?

Stop with your “it’s not debatable” nonsense. You haven’t refuted a single statement that Kirby made, so stop pretending you have. No one is saying Lawrence or Tua would light up the NFL right now (although Desaun Watson did as a rookie), but it’s ridiculous to argue that they aren’t better right now than some of the stiffs who won games in the NFL this year, like CJ Betheard and the immortal Brock Osweiler.

Another post in this thread utterly devoid of facts, failing to respond to the well-supported argument that Bama and Clemson could absolutely compete with bottom tier NFL teams.

If there’s no blue chipper available at 9, then teams aren’t going to want to give up much to move up. See how that works? And the Raiders aren’t trading next year’s first rounder. They are going to suck again this year and it’s going to be a QB-heavy draft.

That’s not the way it works. 24 and 27 this year are worth more than 27 this year and a 1 next year from a team like KC. Next year’s picks are generally devalued by one round. The Raiders (even with a fool like Gruden) would never trade those three picks just to get to 9 in a so-so draft.