mannc
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I think this is probably correct—he’ll get a chance to play again, barring a significant criminal conviction. But I doubt he’ll ever be the same. Watson’s aura of greatness has been shattered and he’s at best a laughingstock now. We don’t know how this is going to play out yet, but I think Tiger Woods after the 2008 incident is probably the best sports analogy.
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Name one time Beane has traded back...seems to me he only trades up.
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No, you should question whether Jones is really the 30th best prospect...
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I'm starting to think this guy's career is over. If there were some sort of exculpating evidence or any kind of innocent explanation for what's happening, we would have heard it by now. Whatever happens to him from a legal perspective, it's pretty obvious that Watson is a deviant MFer. I can't see any NFL team wanting anything to do with him.
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Jets' draft ammo is crazy right now
mannc replied to Inigo Montoya's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
If I had to guess, i would say it was because the owner didn't want to fire Gase after only one season and told Douglas he couldn't fire him. -
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Jets' draft ammo is crazy right now
mannc replied to Inigo Montoya's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
And yet you're willing to condemn Douglas for the Jets' record in his first year, with a coach he didn't hire and a QB he didn't draft...interesting thought process... -
Same thing he said about Mahomes. But he loved him some Mitch Trubisky!
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He had Josh Allen ranked 5th, behind Darnold, Rosen, Mayfield and Jackson, in that order. In other words, he was very, very wrong.
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Pretty sure you’re thinking of Phil Simms here, not Chris. To my knowledge, Chris didn’t do a pre-draft QB ranking in 2016.
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Jets' draft ammo is crazy right now
mannc replied to Inigo Montoya's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
Another reason Gase is gone... -
Yeah, it’s a pretty low-cost gamble on a young QB whom a lot of people think might have some potential. I don’t think Darnold will pan out for them, but it’s certainly not impossible. To me, this shows that Carolina isn’t high on the QBs who are likely to be left after Lawrence, Wilson, and (probably) Jones are gone.
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Jets' draft ammo is crazy right now
mannc replied to Inigo Montoya's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
Come on, man. That's ridiculous. Becton is an absolute beast. He's going to be their LT for the next ten years. That alone makes it a pretty good draft. -
Nonsense. They are ditching Darnold because they don't think he's good enough and they think Zack Wilson is going to be better. The excuses people are willing to make for Darnold are endless.
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Jets' draft ammo is crazy right now
mannc replied to Inigo Montoya's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
Newsflash! The Jets' front office that squandered all that draft capital on Sam Darnold is, like Darnold himself, gone. There is no reason to believe that Douglas will do as poorly as their last GM. Nor is there any reason to believe Wilson will be as disappointing as Darnold. -
It’s being reported that the Panthers plan to exercise Darnold’s 5th year option, which means they won’t be taking a QB at 8. Yikes.
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I don’t doubt that. I guess the question is how much has he developed? The only criticism I’ve heard of Lawrence is that there hasn’t been much noticeable improvement since his freshman year, although of course he was playing at a very high level even then.
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He was also right with Herbert over Tua. I like his philosophy, which is is to downplay college stats (especially win-loss) and look at the context. WRT Lawrence, I’d be concerned that he’s played on a dominant team his whole career. Not to say he won’t be good in the NFL, but i think it makes him a tougher evaluation than some people think.
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Not many current scouts are going to go public with their opinions no matter what, so I’m not sure what your point is. Simms put his name to it and as far as I can tell, he’s been more right than anyone else WRT QBs, going back to Mahomes in 2017 and JA in 2018.
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Tyrod will never be a starter again either.
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And according to Simms, there is more than one scout who has Wilson ranked ahead of Lawrence.
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And I’m saying one scout’s opinion does not equal a consensus. Chris Simms, who’s got as good a record as anyone evaluating QBs for the draft, gives Wilson the highest grade of any QB the last two years—ahead of Burrow, Herbert and Lawrence—all of whom he liked a lot. Then why did Darnold return so little in trade, and why aren’t the Jets sticking with him over Wilson?
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I assume he’s talking about Darnold’s draft grade, which, after three years of lousy play, we now know was wildly inflated. And we now know what Darnold is worth on the trade market—not much. So I’m not sure what Mel’s point was. That’s one scout. What did he think of Josh Allen?
