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Some interesting stats--
Halftime score--24-3
halftime yardage-- Eagles 242, Pats* 56
Eagles also had a TD after a long drive nullified and the ball turned over to NE on an iffy call that the Eagles receiver was bobbling the ball going in. Should have been 31-3 at half. Pats* defenders (all starter except Warren and Thomas, as best I could tell) were getting pushed all over the place and their secondary just rotted. As for the Pats* fans' claims that they're plain vanilla for the pre-season, their first play was a reverse to Moss (that got snuffed in the backfield), so tell me another one.
Best for last--remember that famous move of Pats* tackles on pass plays, you know, when they basically tackle the DE on the way to Brady? The one that never seems to get called despite being obvious holding and that gets used about 10 times a game? Well, they actually called it on Britt this game--go figure.....
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...and the Pats fans are freaking out. I,for one, am loving it. Apparently their starters look like crap. I can't wait to watch on NFLN tomorrow.....
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That's funny--I did the same thing this weekend at the same price. This site's been in business for several years--there was an article about them in the NYT right before the Colts-Bears SB so I hope they're legit, but if not, it's only $107 down the drain.....
Here's the NYT Article:
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/01/28/sports/f...amp;oref=slogin
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Pats* sucked all around tonight--here's hoping it continues for at least another month or two.....
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They've got the best front-three in the business as a group and we don't have a single impact LB like Thomas or anything even close and he turns 31 this year and isn't old for this year. Would I restructure his deal for six years at 50M, no, but if I'm not mistaken we were talking about the present, not three seasons down the road or after Brady stops playing. Mayo looks good too. Their D will still be a top 10 defense this year easily. Some of the reason for that will be the experience with the age although I agree that the age in some of their players is worse than what they gain via experience. But to suggest that the entire unit is aged and over the hill when their entire front is the strongest that they will ever be as a unit doesn't hold much water.
Vrabel is like 32 or 33, not 39. Yes, he's on the downside for sure, but with their front guys it will help. And as long as Harrison plays like he has, age doesn't seem to be an enormous factor.
Vrabel is 33. As for AD (as they call him), I thought he kind of disappeared last year--certainly not worth the large chunk of cash they gave him, IMHO. Remember they also lost Colvin from last year's D, along with Seau (for now, but I suspect he'll be back), Samuel, Gay (their 3rd CB) and their 2nd string safety who logged a lot of minutes (and who's name escapes me). With their front 3 it depends on which Richard Seymour shows up--he's a bit inconsistent. Wilfork is also due for a "karma adjustment"--he's the one guy in the League I might wish an injury on. Rodney's 35 and Lynch is 37--the rest of their secondary is Ellis Hobbs, Fernando Bryant (31--old for a corner), James Sanders, the sucky for a first rounder Brandon Meriweather and 2nd round rookie Wheatley. Why, if you listen to Pats* fans they're even counting on help from Jason Webster (I've told them he won't last 3 games, as Falcons fans told us last summer). I think they're secondary is going to flat out stink--if you can keep their front 7 off your QB you'll have your way with them. Big order, but not impossible. I also stand by my view that if you can grind it out against these guys and keep them on the field they will get steamrolled in the late 3rd and 4th Q, when their age starts to show. Getting back to the topic of this thread--if something happens to Tommy Boy long-term, I think the Pats will be lucky to win 9 games with their current backups and this D.
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Excerpt:
Go F yourself
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"You're all just jealous of the Pats* I'm sure"--keep telling yourselves that, Cheatah fans. It's "sportsmanship" like this quote that makes people hate those SOBs--remember all those "well, it's up to you to stop them" threads last year by Pats' fans/defenders? It would be nice if Jauron sent a copy of that quote to our entire team before the first Pats* game this year, but he doesn't strike me as the type to do that. I'd really like to see it be us who slaps that team into next week this year.....
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As the kat points out, they haven't tried that at quarterback.
Regarding the defense: Bruschi, Vrabel, Thomas, Harrison, backup NT Kenny Smith, and cornerbacks Fernando Bryant, Jason Webster, and Lewis Sanders are all thirtysomething, and, of course, they just added John Lynch.
Don't forget Seau, who Pats* fans seem to think is still going to come back--ahh, ain't HGH a wonderful drug?.....
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Per the Sirius 2 minute drill last night, Brady is staying behind in NE due to a foot injury. If the Pats* don't mess around with the injury report, why has Brady been questionable for every game for the last two seasons at least, due to the supposed shoulder.
Because they're cheating dirtbags (but what else is new?)
KrazyKat---I might agree with the 10-6 or 11-5 if they had a decent backup, but the guys they've got absolutely suck. Just watch tonight in Brady's absence. If you can't get Randy and Welker the ball, what good are they, and with their banged up o-line (Light and Neal have yet to practice this summer, for ex.) plus much more 8 in the box, just watch Maroney and Jordan try to get out of the backfield. Then flip around and see the result on their aging D of actually having to spend more time on the field that would be the result of decreased offensive production and you'd see those guys sucking wind by halftime. IMHO, it would be hysterical how quickly downhill that team would go if something happened to Tommy Boy (or Randy, for that matter) for an extended period.
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For Pats* I do...they are anti-christ of all that is good with football
Vince Wilfork might be the one guy I'd root for an injury for. Last season that POS was the dirtiest player in football, hands down.....
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If this is the same foot from last year that sucks. He may have a lot of problems with it this year. You're right that if he goes down so do the Pets*. I haven't really seen much of their backup but I gotta believe that he's not even close to what Brady can do.
Cassel and Gutierrez were atrocious last week--absolutely horrible. BB's arrogance won't let him admit that the whole "Matt Leinart's backup" idea is a huge bust and so they've done nothing to go out and get a real backup capable of preserving a winning season for them if Brady goes down. Moronic considering that they're doing things like signing John Lynch for the price they could have gotten a backup left Leftwich, who'd be capable of winning 12 games with that team if Tommy Boy went down.....
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http://www.patsfans.com/new-england-patrio...ead.php?t=98228
Hope you all find this as interesting as I do. Not rooting for injuries, mind you (I never do), but it looks like one may have already happened to the Golden Child. If that's the case (or if he somehow does get hurt this year), those guys are royally f*cked--have you seen their backup QB play? Why they didn't go for Leftwich or C-Pep I'll never know, but Brady truly is an MVP with that team and without him I'd honestly put them at about .500. Interesting camp as well there in that a bunch of their starters and O-line guys have barely practiced in TC this summer (including Matt Light, Stephen Neal, Mike Vrabel, for ex.). Maybe just some new way to cheat, but even their finds are finding it all a bit odd......
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I just rewatched the first few series and it seemed to me like the Steelers were blitzing--wouldn't that indicate that they were doing more than just playing "plain vanilla" themselves? Sounds like sour grapes to me......
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Anyone hear any more on this? That could be the only bad thing to come out of a great game last night.....
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George Wilson has been a special teams demon tonight--he seems to be around the ball every ST play.....
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Ray Bently is doing a good job...anyone else think he sounds a little like Don Criquie?
Yes and yes. Wasn't Criqui a B'lo native?
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Incroyable, as the French would say!!
Way to go, O!!!
Man, I'm pumped for the season!!!!
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You are my hero!!!!
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http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/08/10/...ng-to-san-fran/
TKO to join Willis with the Niners.....
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Fixed.
So you think the Peters hold out will continue? I'm not quite sure that Jason wants to lose $3 million he'd get for playing this year, but we'll see. Showing up real ate (i.e., Week 1) and out of shape, now that's a real possibility in my mind.....
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I agree on the Turk Schonert and Perry Fewell statements that you made, but I don't agree with the fact that you are judging our 2008 season on one preseason game when it was only our first game, of course there was going to be some sort of sloppyness, but still, come on.
Especially considering (a) our opponent had already played one pre-season game, (b) I believe Washington played most, if not all, of its starters in the 1st Q, especially on O, unlike the Bills, who were missing Peters, Reed, McGee, Crowell and Whitner (and it also looked to me like Stroud didn't play all of the first two series even), I don't think this game was as bad as some of you think. For ex., the two penalties on O in the 1st Q were by Kirk Chambers (shouldn't be on the field) and Walker (playing out of his natural position). Edwards did look rusty, but even there, one of his passes was dropped by Schouman and another incomplete looked like the result of a rookie non-starter not recognizing the play (which Hardy seemed to acknowledge in his sideline interview). I'd have like to see them play better, but I'm not panicking yet.....
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reggie corner hasn't really been impressive tonight. mcmullen just caught that first down on him, and he was wide open.
Other than that play just now when he sat on the route and forced Collins to throw it away.....
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From the discussion on the Pats' fan boards, it sounds serious (some of them are talking IR already). Too bad for Aiken. Sounds like Tank Williams, their back up safety, was also hurt.
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http://www.esquire.com/features/the-game/t...dy-0908?src=rss
Check out this quote:
"We've seen you, Tom Brady. You have fun. You're a sandlot player. You win like no one else. You win big. Sticking the knife in the back of the reeling Redskins last season (52--7, remember), breaking off the blade? That's gotta be fun. Doesn't that make you happy?
"Always," he says. "Always. It does." Tom Brady smiles, and it's a winning affect, an undeniable dominion over the space around him. When the guy looks happy, the room is happy. "The Redskins, they're not easing up on us. They're trying to hit us as hard as they can. So we're not just going to stand there and take their shots. We're trying to execute. I think for us, as a team, in that game, we were very precise and efficient. I mean, you practice really hard, and you always hope you get games that turn out like that. That one was like, sh-- . . . ," he says, trailing off, smirking, holding his palms up. "All of it worked. That doesn't happen often."
It's fun. Just throwing the ball. "We were playing the Bills last year and I got a call in from the sidelines," Tom Brady says, regaling now. "And Josh, the coordinator, he says, 'Second and one, get the first down.' We're up 17? A lot, I don't remember. We're on the 48-yard line, and Moss was wide, so I just said, 'Randy, go deep.' And I just laid it up there. I just threw it. I ran off and Josh shouted, 'Just get the first down!' And I said, 'How was that?' They pulled me out of the game. That's exactly what I was trying to do.""
I really hope we cram this down his throat this year (twice), G-Men style......
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ER Fireman's Carnival is likely the reason. I'm heading up to Roch tonight myself just for such event (and to visit TC as well!).....
Its only pre season
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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Remember the Raiders a few years back--went from 13-3 to 3-13 seemingly overnight? That's what I fervently hope happens here--it would be well-deserved.
Have you actually watched them play at all this pre-season? Most of the starters are playing (ex-Brady, Thomas, Light and Neal), but there really seems to be no spark. They just look flat, old and slow. Perhaps a full serving of reading their own press clippings in the off-season. If Belicheat is trying to feign suckiness to the rest of the league to catch us all by surprise (always a possibility with that piece of work) they're doing it very well....
PS It was hysterical hearing their own fans booing them roundly at halftime this last game, showing once again that they're the biggest bandwagon riders in the history of sports.....