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John you may well be correct on this but I will say this. Kelsey was at three Bills Booster meetings last year (spoke once) and is a decent and smart guy but it got me to wonder why would a player give up a night to be at a booster meeting? The answer I got in so many words is that Kelsey is thought highly of inside the Bills organization. Think goodwill ambassador, so it really didn't shock me when I read about his extension. I would not be surprised if Kelsey was offered some position with the Bills after he retires from playing. I remember at the Bills pre-draft breakfast, Buddy Nix stating that "this team needs talent" and that with their number one pick the Bills would select the best player available. Spiller was hands down the best player on the board when the Bills pick came up and though I wanted either OL or DL Buddy Nix was not going to pass on a talent like Spiller. Thurman Thomas about the same size as Spiller did a very good job at blitz pickup. Only question is does Spiller have anywhere near the heart that Thurman Thomas had playing on those great teams.

That is just retarded and it WILL cost them! (Now in a year, we have to go out and draft Jackson's replacement...somebody who can pound the ball and be the #1 RB...SPILLER will not cut it as a workhorse!) Thurmam Thomas 5'10" 200# Spiller 5'11" 196# I believe TT did just fine being the featured back..just sayin

I have heard Joe DeLamielleure state on more than one occasion that he would love to be the Bills OL coach but that no one from the Bills has ever approaced him...sad.

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Thank You for Your service to our country

For the record, I left with 9 minutes to go in the 4th. That's about the time we left also. No traffic !!! Fastest we ever got home after a game. Noticed the lots were mostly empty so we were at the tailend of the exodus.

I'll come home from a game like this (even after all these years)a little upset, mope around the house for a while-mostly outside if the weather is decent, then log onto TSW and relax. This team is a work in progress and hopefully Nix with some input from Gailey and not Wilson,Littmann or our marketing guru Brandon can right the Bills ship. 10+ yers of bad drafting and pi$$ poor FA signings have gutted this team and like You stated correctly, its going to take a few years to at least be competitive. Like magic, one post, IM settled down and ready for the Bills to beat JAX

Well,well,well long time Sid. We'll get together before the game. When you getting into Buffalo? Check your PM's

15 loosing seasons in 21 years 1967- 1987; Marv Levy's first full season of coaching the Bills. There has definitely been more bad years than good and have I been in the stands or on the sidelines for many (since 1962) except when I was in the US Navy from 70-76. Here is a breakdown: 67 4-10 Joel Collier coach 68 1-12-1 Harvey Johnson friend of Wilson 69 4-10 John Rauch 70 3-10-1 " " 71 1-13 Replay on the Harvey Johnson as coach wannabe 72 4-9-1 Saban took over and for three years after 73 9-5; 74 9-5 & 75 8-6 76 2-12 Jim Ringo 77 3-11 Jim Ringo in 78 Chuck Knox took over, 5-11 his first season coaching and had a few winning seasons until he left for more money because Wilson wouldn't pay him Two 2 & 14 seasons in 84 & 85 Kay Stephenson and then the all time scholar Hank Bullough before he was fired half way through the 1986 season and Marv Levy took over coaching Here is link: http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/buf/

My, oh My, Oh My

After the Bills find 2 legitimate tackles and a upgrade at center. Even OJ did nothing until his OL improved. Our OL is getting zero push on far too many plays. Even Wood in this last game got his head handed to him and he was the best OL player we had. It's foolish to blame the RB if there's no holes up front.

If people only realized how much "power" Jauron had with personell decisions, including the draft. Modrack was given a back seat. His player rankings were ignored by Jauron especially in reguards to the first round of the draft...over & over. Modrack only stayed with the Bills because Ralph Wilson met with him in Florida and asked him too. Modrack could work from his home in Florida and not have to deal with Jauron on a dailey basis. Jauron was a bad HC but IMHO I believe his very inept personell decisions, icluding the draft played a big part in his being canned.

Good post. Hit the nail on the head about Fitz. Brohm...well he might make it as a career back-up. I realize the O-line sucks but in the next draft if there is a frachise QB available you take him.

A lot more. The over & under for Brohm to start is the sixth game. Face it folks the QB of the future is not on this roster. Wilson is probably having nightmares already about the 70-90 or more millions of dollars he will have to shell out for a QB with the first over all pick. His payback for being cheap at the GM position and not hiring more scouts. Bad draft picks year after year have put this team back where it was for two and half decades before Bill Polian was hired. Buddy Nix knows talent but it will take years to undo the damage that began after the late John Butler's last draft, then became worse under Tom Donahoe and then took a steep decline with the drafts called by Marv Levy, Russ Brandon, Dicky baby and Wilson. Pathetic just pathetic how Wilson and his cheapness have once again turned this team into the 1971 Bills.

True dat. No fire, no heart. Have noticed Evans more than once at RWS just give up on plays

Ding Ding Ding.....We ave A winner !!!!!!!!!!!

Along with QB, LT, RT, WR & DE. With Jauron gone at least we won't be drafting another DB It was very upsetting to me when I had first found out the extent to which Jauron was given control of the draft thanks to Marv Levy. Even worse was that Tom Modrak was basically ignored on Draft Day in 2007 even though he had the title of assistant GM. Modrak was going to quit but Ralph Wilson met with him in Florida and talked Modrak into staying with the Bills and allowed Modrak to work out of his house which in the grand scheme of things was no big deal. I could never get any confimation that there was rift between Jauron & Modrak and Tom Modrak is too classy a guy to throw anyone under the bus but still feel there was more going on than what anyone in the public knew.

Well that's the new math for ya

Good post. Bolded part says it all. I have been following the Bills since 1962 and more often than not bad, and I mean totally inept bad front offices and coaches who were eventually fired by RW never to have a head coaching gig ever again in the NFL; have doomed this team to years of loosing seasons. I haven't a clue who was giving RW advice (if there was in fact anyone in the earlier years)but that advice led to the many years of ineptitude save for catching lightening in a bottle with the hiring of Bill Polian and Marv Levy with subsequent hires in the scouting department of John Butler and later Buddy Nix. Wilson finally got lucky and we fans had a winning team. But then Bill Polian gets fired by RW, in steps John Butler who's medicore drafting at best started started the talent exodus. Butler leaves to take over the Charger's organization and takes most of the scouting department with him. In steps Tom Donahoe as GM and president with "Mr. lists" Greg Williams as his first head coach to be followed by Mike Mularkey. Bad, bad choices. I had really hi hopes for Tom Donahoe and IM sure many people here felt the same but his ineptness at drafting continued the Bills slide. Good-bye Tom and enter Marv Levy as GM and a Marketing guy Russ Brandon running the Bills show. Marv names his fellow Ivy Leaguer Dick Jauron head coach. Jauron, Levy and Brandon run the draft and the slide continues. So for those that ask why were the Bills' draft picks so bad, just look at who was running the show. Bad decision after bad decision by Ralph Wilson in hiring a GM (or not) to right the Bill's ship along with a coach who had no business calling the draft have got us to where we are today. We have no way of knowing how Buddy Nix will pan out as the GM but the man knows football talent and as he stated "we will have to hit on every pick" at the Bills pre-draft breakfast. Nix needs a bigger home run next April.

IM concerned about both bookends like many here. Green especially. If you are at the game watch his footwork. Most of the time it seems like his feet are stuck to the ground. Trouble in space. Bell's footwork is better and he does have a big wingspan but a lack of quickness many times will cause him to get burned and hopefully not cause wharever QB is in there to get killed. Another thing about Bell, too often he bites on the outside fake by the DE and cannot recover. This could have been injury related, just experience or the needed quickness is just not there. Either way we will soon find out and I hope that both can prove us all wrong. A good deal of how well our offense is depends on these two so I'll be pulling for them to improve.

I think we can take at least one game apiece from that trio if our OL can keep Trent upright. None of them are unbeatable

Dat true....

Hi Bill, hope all is good with you and family. Good post. What game will you be at? Let me know and we'll get together.

Not true. While Buddy Nix isn't given a blank check so to speak there is a lot more behind the scenes mutual respect between Ralph Wilson and Buddy Nix, I'll leave it at that. Ralph Wilson really does want a winning team and the moves of keeping a vet vs. free agent IMO have more to do with talent and how a player can contribute in other facets like special teams. This was and in many respects still a talent deprived team. Bad drafting and bad free agent signings in the past ten years have got us to where we are today as a team. Buddy Nix is a good guy. Knows talent and have faith that he will bring us a winner here in WNY. I hope someday you get to meet and talk with Buddy Nix. Down to earth good guy and am confident that he will be given all the rescources to build a winner here. Buddy Nix is a no-nonsence class act.