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Well that, and knowing that we aren't cheaters.

Ha! Nice try. I will continue to bask in the glory of your loss.

I'll take what I can get...

Awesome perspective.

Of course you can read them. If you don't want to pay a ridiculously low charge for someone's work, then just go to another thread. Just because an article is behind a paywall doesn't mean we can't or shouldn't discuss it here. That's what the board is for. People didn't get nearly this uptight about ESPN Insider article discussions, they just ignored them or moved on.

Moving up is going to be expensive. Supply and demand. There are several teams who need a QB and who may be willing to move up, which changes the math. The typical draft trade values don't necessarily apply in this situation, where teams are bidding against each other to draft for the highest-value position on the field. Teams in the upper half of the draft can almost set whatever price they want...

Sure makes you realize how some individuals underperform for immature reasons, yet can turn things around in ways that aren't always clear to us. Even just a change of scenery can do it (*cough* Dareus).

And the only one I got to see in person. Ugh. I can't believe we actually led that game, 7-0.

He apparently convinced Bucky Gleason of the idea.

Why would the Browns or Colts agree to that now? The longer they hold out, the higher the price gets.

Love seeing everyone come out for these threads...

This place is amazing. So many great people over the years. Thanks Scott for grabbing us by the eyeballs and never letting go. I'm wondering where the craziest, far away places people have logged in from...I remember checking in from Haiti once over 10 years ago on the slowest connection you can imagine...

Wow, that's some serious time. Hard to believe I've wasted spent two decades of my life here. The vast majority of it lamenting bad QB play, bad coaching, and the lack of any playoff football.

Could be a bargaining chip for a draft trade so Beane doesn't have to give up more picks than he wants to move up...

Another thing I noticed (from the highlight reel, of course), is that he seems to do a really nice job when under pressure, always looking for the open receiver and eventually finding him. Doesn't seem to have a quick trigger to run...but when he does, he actually moves reasonably well.

I don't know anything about Rudolph, so I checked out his 2017 highlight reel. Of course it's only highlights, but some of the throws there were really quite good, and I didn't see anything to suggest he doesn't have a strong arm. But that's all I've seen of him.

What if the rule was all defensive holding or PI calls inside the two-minute warning put the time back on the clock? Hell, if they can run 10 seconds off for an offensive penalty, nothing wrong with putting time back on to prevent this kind of thing.

Well, at least you get irony. Well done.

My purpose was to point out that your position had been stated several times already, with plenty of arguments against it. So, just stating the same argument again doesn’t add much to the conversation.

Great, so your response to arguments against your position is just to state your position again? Got it.

Plenty of arguments against this throughout the thread.

Mark Gaughan's article would argue pretty nicely against this perspective, as have other articles.

Agreed. Like others have said, I don't see grabbing receivers as a problem in college ball. I don't buy the argument that it's a lot tougher to do in college because receivers are faster, or whatever. If it made sense to grab or interfere with receivers to save the long ball, you'd better believe college coaches would be doing it. Someone mentioned the Myles Jack play on Shady in the Wild Card game. Sure, but how many times do you actually see that happening in an NFL game? How different would that play have been if we got 15 yards instead of a spot foul? My guess is that the grab occurred right around 15 yards downfield. I still like the idea of making it a 15-yard penalty and automatic first down, and when it's inside 2:00 of each half, it becomes an untimed down and the time is put back on the clock. That will certainly dissuade defenses from just grabbing guys at the end of games.

Nothing, of course. But on one hand, the game can't end on a defensive penalty, so the offense gets another shot. And keeps getting shots until the defense stops doing it. On the other hand, another idea would be to make defensive PI a spot foul when it's inside 2:00 of each half. (I still don't like that, but it would hekp somewhat.)