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ICE, I'm totally with you on this, but at the same time it's tough to make a strong argument when you're 0-2. I do feel that we have been up against two tough defenses in JAX and OAK, and while our defense has been up to the task as well, the offense still needs to score when the opportunities are there...including not taking sacks to get us out of FG position. I think the offense WILL improve as the season goes on, but if we're 1-7 or 2-6 at the halfway point, maybe we really ARE that bad. Time will tell. But I agree with you that it's still too early to know for certain if we're really as bad as it seems. I think we're in position to improve.

True, although half of their defensive stats came against us! I agree, though, their defense really isn't bad. We have played two good defensive teams so far and we're obviously struggling a bit. But I do expect us to show more as the season goes on. It may be for naught, but whatever.

We may not have GB's or Indy's offense.... ...but then again, we definitely don't have their defense

Hindsight is so sweet, isn't it? Shayne sucked when he was here, and we couldn't vote him out of here fast enough. Maybe it took him some time to mature, but spare us the longing.

5 TDs and over 300 yards in the first half. Does Bledsoe have that for the entire season yet?

Regardless, it does show that Buffalo's offensive struggles are not unique. I think most people here think Denver and Tennessee have better offenses than Buffalo, yet Denver couldn't score a TD against JAX and Tennessee, supposed to threaten for their division crown, couldn't beat them at home either. We're really down on the Bills offense so far (and rightfully so), but let's keep things in perspective here: JAX has a very good defense. (I won't say the same about Oakland, though)

Just remember, there's a darn good reason Shane was swimming around in a pool during preseason instead of chucking footballs around a field.

I was extraordinarily pi$$ed off at that incredibly awful holding call. If my wife and dogs weren't in the room at the time, something might have been smashed. In my mind, that was one of the worst calls I have ever seen. The HOLD did not start at the one yard line, CONTACT began at the one yard line. The HOLDING took place in the end zone. I absolutely couldn't believe what I was hearing. But hey, just another day in the life of a Bills fan.

Happy birthday!! I assume from your absence in this thread, you must be out having a great time...

That is so cool! I hadn't heard it before. And 6 kids....oh my. What a kick that would be for him.

Teague played the whole game for us at center, if I remember correctly. Does that say anything?

Great news, I am truly glad to hear it. Good luck with everything!

Has everyone already forgotten about Ken Jones???

Man, I just saw that movie with her and George Clooney, and she is so smokin' I can hardly believe it. What an incredible beauty she has. Liz Hurley is right up there with her, too. Ay carumba.

Can't argue too much about your comments, but I will say this: The Bills threw a lot of different fronts and blitzes at Leftwich, most likely because he is a young QB and still has trouble with them. That appeared to be the case, as Leftwich appeared dazed and confused except for the final drive, when the Bills inexplicably stopped their previous ways. Gannon, on the other hand, has been around. He knows how to deal with blitzes, is able to move around in the pocket, and gets rid of the ball quickly and accurately. Gray probably didn't want to blitz and leave guys open, since Gannon could pick them out quickly. That said, I still think Gray and the defense did a bang-up job against the Raiders. Sure, they made a mistake or two, but in the NFL you're going to make some. If we had any semblance of an offense, one or two defensive mistakes wouldn't be enough to lose a game like that.

I'm in!

We just need to execute better.

Watching the Bills this year has made me feel like I've had two already.

Who knows if he has or not? Maybe he just has a little class to do it behind closed doors, not through the media, which is just fine with me.

I thought Dicesare's article today was excellent. I agree that there is no reason to expect this team to turn it around, and there is a fine line between being 2-0 and 0-2. The one problem, though (as pointed out above) is that being 2-0 gives you the luxury of some extra time to work out the problems. The Bills no longer have any time to figure things out. With the Pats up next, they need to get the ball rolling or they're staring right at 0-3, with a very possible 0-5 on the horizon. I also thought Bucky Gleason's article was good, too. More doom and gloom, but both Dicesare's and Gleason's articles provide good perspective to the problem. Who would've thought that our offense was THAT bad over the last 16 games? Even worse than the 2-14 teams? Ugh. It's almost enough to make me think it wasn't Killdrive. Almost.

I don't know, my impression (particularly after the JAX game) is that we had much better success running the ball to the right than to the left. Problem is, the coaches kept calling runs left, and I couldn't figure out why. Against OAK, I didn't see any particular success right or left. I will say this: if this team could ever figure out how to finish off a drive with a TD, this could be a very formidable team. They do seem to have the ability to wear down defenses with that running game in the second half. Problem, of course, is that that's a HUGE if.

The comments from TD (per ICE) and from Moulds in the article on BB.com, as well as others we've been hearing now and then, are all intriguing...they all point to how we should expect to see just how good this offense will be in the next few weeks. I know it takes some time for a new offense to get on the same page, but it sounds like some really interesting things are in the works........

I don't particularly care about baseball, never did. No skin off my back. Just interesting to see how hurt a lot of people were, and how many said they could never really cheer for baseball as a sport anymore. Time seems to have healed that wound.

The Broncos should have bent the rules for 5 straight years. Then they would've only lost a 5th round pick!

So I guess it's all forgive-and-forget with the whole baseball lockout thing that happened years ago and soiled everbody's love of the game? Sure seems that way.