Rubes

Look, what it really comes down to is this: fans find all the things wrong with the player who left, and play up the upside of the guy who just arrived. Philly fans are stoked at getting a LB of the caliber of Spikes. They see the upside if he returns to form. They play up the fact that he improved as the year went on. At worst, they see themselves getting a good LB who brings a lot of fire to the table. They also see themselves getting a solid backup QB. And all they gave up was an average DT and a worthless 7th round pick. On the flip side, we're stoked at getting a veteran DT who will fit our system perfectly, potentially fixing our defensive line problems and striking DT off the list of need positions in the draft. We love his sack stats and play up the positive reports we can find from people who have seen him play. We had to give up a great teammate but a guy who is really expensive and who has missed as much playing time as he's seen the last two years, appears to be a shell of his old self, and probably will never reach his old form. That and an expensive guy who will likely be their 3rd string QB -- big deal. Who won this deal? Who got robbed? Nobody did, certainly not yet. If Spikes returns to his Pro Bowl form, then the Eagles did well. If Walker solidifes our defensive line, then we did well. Holcomb is barely even part of the equation, to be honest. But certainly nobody could honestly proclaim, with a straight face, that either team made out better than the other at this point in time.

Funny, I could have sworn most of the media saying that Holcomb was probably going to be their 3rd stringer. That's a coup?

Nah, I'm guessing it just has to do with how they are remembered. Chandler was no more a Raider than OJ was a 49er, Thurman a phin, or Bruce and Andre a Skin.

Are we allowed to remind you of this post sometime during the fall when you slip back into your depression?

I lived there for 8 years and never found a Bills bar...where is Lincoln Station?

My next jersey, for certain, will be a throwback #81 Bobby Chandler. I'm reasonably sure nothing could go wrong with that one.

What exactly are you proposing the Bills give up in order to move up in the 1st round?

Holy crap, that's hysterical!

The only two I've ever bought were Winfield and Spikes. Criminy. Anybody you'd like to see gone in a year or two? I'm buyin'.

"Forget it, he's on a roll."

I would like to see what this tally looked like last year.

I could have sworn this thread was started by crayonz...

I agree...I used to watch that long before ESPN. I can't believe it was still on.

Of course, if the Colts game last year was any indication, that's not necessarily a good indicator either. When the Bills defense needed a stop on that last drive, they couldn't even get the Colts into a 3rd down situation. They kept making first downs on second down.

It all comes down to 3rd down performance. On both sides of the ball.

True, that. And the fact that his performance coming off that injury does not warrant that amount of coin. If he had never been injured, he'd be worth the money.

Although my first reaction was similar to LA's, in the end it comes down to this for me: I'm just glad Marv and Dick are running this ship.

Ah, rookies.

Good Lord, some people will just never let it go....

Super Bowl. Easy.

Damn...methinks Atlanta made out like bandits in this one.

And all I'm saying is that past events don't necessarily have any impact on the future. Just because Cowher tanked his previous chances at a Super Bowl victory didn't mean he couldn't go out and finish the job. And just because Brown has had injuries in the past (as long as they aren't chronic injuries) doesn't mean he'll go out there and do the same again.

Running backs frequently get hurt. McGahee was hurt, Henry was hurt. They often played through the pain, but who's to say if they would have if they had the same injuries as Brown. To me, saying Brown is an injury waiting to happen is not much different than saying Cowher or Dungy could never win the big one. Which is what a lot of people were saying.

Maybe they should finally put in a rule to have the same number of cameras present at every freaking game. Why some games (read: night games and playoff games) get more cameras is beyond me when the money flowing around is at such ridiculous levels.

If Brown could be had for a decent price he'd be a good pickup. Regardless of everyone's perception of his health, it would fill a need position, if even only temporarily. This team has holes to fill that can't all be addressed by high draft picks this year. My impression is that Marv and Dick have a plan, but when they took over they knew this was no quick fix. Three years to remake this team over. This is the second year and if we can focus on something other than RB in the early rounds, then great.