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I agree, I don't think it's a career ender. Best case scenario is that he's back next year as a third down back, with Spiller carrying the load. But we all know that's dreaming.

It was not a fourth down play. And Al and his 98 posts know nothing about quality posters. I, for one, always look forward to Bill's post-game summaries, even in losing weeks.

Well, at least a couple of you got the reference.

With Snow and Sam manning the front line... ...should we now call the right side of our offensive line "The Wall"? And should we call Urbik the "Old Bear" for watching over those two and keeping them out of trouble? And does getting a starting job on our offensive line equate to "taking the black"? I could go on all night, really. Edit: Merged, really?

I think that's a good point. Not sure it should count for a QB necessarily, but I agree that it's a huge penalty that can dramatically change the course of a game (see Bills-Pats last year). I still wonder why the NFL hasn't gone to the college style, 15-yard penalty rather than the spot foul. It's almost as though pass interference has become part of the offensive strategy, as in, "Let's throw it deep in the hopes that we either catch it or get the PI call." I don't really like that it has become that.

I'd like to see him fined for the intentional forearm to Freddie's head.

Perfection.

I'd like Orton...if I wanted my team to continue to be mired in mediocrity. I'd rather stick with Fitz.

That's exactly what I thought, too.

Oh my.

You can say that again. I agree with JPS, Snow is too green (at least he's not yellow) to put in at starting center. If he plays well the rest of the way, I expect they will groom him as the backup to Wood.

Makes you wonder. Going into next season, we have five DE on the roster in Mario, Moore, Kelsay, Anderson, and Merriman. I'd say it will come down to Kelsay vs. Merriman, unless we draft a promising prospect. Then all bets are off.

Kelsay to IR; Heath and Williams called up Heath is a CB and WIlliams is a G from the practice squad.

Do you know it was towards the coaches? Maybe it was toward CJ, saying "See kid, this is how you do it." Or maybe it was to the rest of the team, saying "That's right, bitches. I'm older than all of you and kicking ass."

Why, because they didn't win the Super Bowl last year?

What does it mean? I don't know, but I'd guess it means there's probably another thread discussing this very issue a little further down on the first page. Linky-poo

Well, he looked better to me in his first game than Aaron Williams has in his second season. That's gotta be worth something.

I don't get what the big deal is. He was an insurance policy at LB, and he now needed to be cut because we've run out of offensive linemen.

Got it, thanks!

I don't know where the info came from that he was carted off with his leg immobilized, but Chris Brown was reporting today that he was able to walk off the field. Linky-poo

Yes, stats are for losers. I'm a loser. Now that that's out of the way... Bills are now the #24 overall defense for yards/game at 368.5. Bills are now the #14 passing defense at 229.3. Bills are now #9 defense for sacks with 32. The Bills are still the #30 rushing defense at 139.2. The Bills are still the #29 scoring defense at 28.1. It helps to play the crappier teams. But then again, we played tough teams earlier on, so it's just balancing out. So...cause for optimism for next year? Do we trash it all and get rid of Wanny? Or do we preach patience while these guys get the hang of the system?

At one point in the second half we had Urbik at center, and Snow and Young were both in. Ugh.

Exactly. "As safe as they ever were" could just mean "safe until I decide otherwise."

So you're saying there's still a chance?

Cool, the NO game might be a great idea...I know we've been trying to go there for a long time now and never have, so that might be a good excuse. I could certainly be ready for the Pats at home next year as well. Look forward to it!