Saint Doug

I just see too many variables in football for this to work. Let's think of reasons 1st rounders bust: not enough talent, injuries, no desire to be their best, incompetent coaches, drafted for wrong offensive/defensive scheme. Half of these reasons analytics will not be able to measure or predict.

Human trash. This dude was an unstable time bomb. Hope he gets raped in jail. I don't understand why they wouldn't automatically search it considering the Supreme Court has ruled a long time ago a warrant is not needed to search a car when there is "probable cause" a crime has been committed. Cue "self-defense" argument in 3...2...1...

I agree with this. There's 3 reasons a team tries to jump up 20 spots to #1: QB, QB, and QB. This is the smart thing to do. You avoid blowing all available cap space on Fitz, pick up a real franchise QB, and there's an inordinately large bust rate for OTs picked in the top 5.

Good signing by the Swifters.

Watching Marcia get up (or hopefully not) and throw a complete tantrum would be worth every cent of this guy's contract.

Nice dust settles signing.

No, the Bills are holding themselves hostage by not extending or trading them.

He was a 1st round talent who never developed in the Browns system. What 1st talent does develop in the Browns system? We can't blame him for the team's completely and utter incompetence.

Going out on a limb here, but if your picking within the top 10, that player better end up being a game changer (and yes, a game changer was still on the board, but Marv liked skinny DTs). Whitner has never been a game changer. His presence never dictated the result of a game. He was solid, even above average, but that's something to expect from a pick between 20-32 or in the 2nd round. So, I place him in the bust category.

Have our docs give him an evaluation. Can't hurt. Even if the guy is shelved for another year.

No they don't. Players want to play football. That's why they have an agent. The problem is this: http://www.nola.com/saints/index.ssf/2016/04/jairus_byrd_eugene_parker_was.html Eugene was a "father figure" to Byrd. And this probably occurs with a lot of these athletes who grew up with an absent father. These agents know exactly what to say to manipulate their clients weaknesses in order to get what they want. The agent is going to convince their client "not the underestimate the value of their time and skills" and not to accept one dime less. Because at the end of the day, they're not the ones who now have to uproot their family. They're not the ones who suddenly need to learn a new system and make new friends. They couldn't care less. Likely. But, it's not so black and white. What about signing with a different team instead of the one who offered him the most money? Now he's stuck in a quagmire. A defense so bad it rewrote the history books. What about this question: would Byrds career been substantially better if not for Parker instilling in him the idea that feigning injury could be an effective bargaining tool? These are very impressionable young men, especially when advice is coming from a "father figure". But, once a player crosses that line, he's done as a competitor. There's no undoing that.

Come on. Let's not go that far. He put himself first and his clients benefited as a result. Not to say this is unique to Parker, as most agents do the same. Can you honestly say his treatment of the Byrd situation was best for the player? He may have earned a fatter paycheck, but his career has definitely gone downhill. Money made should not be the major criteria for a successful career.

Seriously. Why have these players in if we are not going to sign them? Although some are just using us for financial leverage, they can't all be (right?). It really stings when we lose a defensive player to the Jets. For these type of bubble players, I don't think it just comes down to money. They are struggling to stay in the league and him likely signing with the Jets sends a message that he thinks he'll be more successful in their defense.

That doesn't exactly instill confidence. I can just image his eulogy "As a member of the esteemed NFL agent profession, he is not to be remembered as a man of strong moral compass...but he was no Drew Rosenhaus"

Ralph/Russ/John/Doug/Kim/Terry's cheap

Pretty much sums it up.

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I wasn't going to say it, but.... Despite the misinformation rampant in this thread, perhaps a good scientific discussion can happen in here. I think some meaningful CTE research could be done to diagnosis it before the onset of death. I think we are on the cusp of a revolution in clinical imaging. It would be a very expensive study, but I would like to see a study which correlates PET scan findings to head trauma. My guess would be that brains experiencing CTE would have specific areas of increased glucose fueled metabolism. Using players (kickers) who hadn't been hit would be a great control group. However, I suspect you'll find some players with minimal baseline brain activity.

By the looks of it, there's some very successful trolling going on in this thread.

Actually, even if he wins us the Super Bowl next year, he really won't get paid much that more than if we were going to pay him right now. The going rate for a decent QB is $18 million per season. For comparison, Rodgers, Wilson, and Flacco make $22 million per season. If we are going to pay him Franchise QB money, +/- a few million per season isn't going to matter at that point.

Can he cover Marshall?

So it looks like nothing is going to happen until after June 1st, barring a great trade opportunity.

I'm fine with this. There has always seemed to be arms (legs?) race in the NFL to get/find a kicker who can boot it out of the end zone consistently, which, as a viewer, is boring. With that action leading to a free quarter of the field now, teams will think twice about doing so. This will lead to more kicks falling around the 5-10 yard line and hence more returns. Good for the viewership.

Wait a second. In his one season with the raiders (being fired after Al Davis's death not necessarily his fault), he went 8-8 with a top-10 ranked offense. If he was a Bills coach that year, 99% of the posters on here would've called it a successful season.

I'm sure Rob Ryan is gestating a plan to contain them.