Saint Doug

I have to admit. Many of these CEOs coming out now in support for social change seems more like shrewd business decisions. Once they do, after no one has been murdered, I’ll take more notice.

Kaepernick received his Nike endorsement deal after being out of the NFL for years. He played his last down in 2016 and the endorsement deal was signed in 2018. Again, you think this deal was due to his prowess on the football field? Don’t get me wrong, I’m never sour against people who make more money than myself. Great for them - I actually make money myself, so I’m not resentful. My problem is that they have a very special gift to connect with people. Instead, they throw some money around and put a bandaid on the festering wound and everyone praises their commitment to the community. No amount of millions of dollars is going to fix social injustice. Not even a dollar. Guess what? After all that money spent, social inequity still exists. They need to get to the root of the problem. Thousands of people look up to NFL players. Some even worship them. They have a huge amount of influence, well beyond the food they send to Africa or wherever. They have the ability to step away from Twitter for a bit and sit down with community leaders and get stuff done. They can connect with children, of both races. They can bring people together to iron out perceived differences. They could probably get racists in the same room as blacks and have a positive experience. This is how they need to lead, not money.

I have no problem with players kneeling. I agree with Reid, kneeling is almost a respectful gesture. Where the players are completely wrong is them thinking this is enough. Kneeling for the National Anthem right before they are about to make more money than I make in 6 months does nothing to me. Kneeling in order to collect endorsements is not only laughable, it disgusts me. Ironically, they are the disconnected ones. Get intimately involved with your community. Bring people together. Have tough conversations with both sides. Get your hands dirty.

Lorax needs to stick around as long as possible. It’s horrible for him to go out like this.

I guess I’m having difficult with your definition of “practicing racism”. It’s clear that Fromm’s words that they are founded in racist beliefs. But you suggest people like him “don’t deserve autonomy”? Autonomy is a basic human right. Don’t you think this is a bit extreme? But later in this same thread you are saying we should accept his apology and move on??? I think we are walking a very fine line here and need to be very careful with our words.

I can’t agree. I’m not going to go around and play thought police with people. These are adults we are talking about. If I see blatant discrimination going on, you bet I will intervene and speak up. Even though I detest racism, people are adults and deserve autonomy. In my profession, I’m trained to be overly tolerant and to avoid being judgmental at all costs. If they want to be ignorant, then they can be ignorant by themselves. At some point, they will be alone.

I guess the question begs, if you are restrained and mature enough not to make racist jokes anymore, are you no longer a racist? I’m certainly not calling you racist as this is a rhetorical question for us all. I think racism is much more than what we choose or choose not to say. The other side of the coin, I guess, is that people can say things that could be construed as racist, but who are not racist at heart. They’re just words after all. Myself, I see no difference in races, so I’m not going to go out of my way to treat one with kid gloves over another. Again, we are a race of humans, not colors. Treat others how you would like them to treat you.

I agree with him 100%. Many players do a whole lot of good for their communities, but it seems like a small handful make them all look asses. It’s time to clean that up and start taking leadership positions.

China just breathed a sigh of relief upon the death of Floyd.

Well, I wouldn’t absolved Caucasians completely. The majority of people of people in power in Minneapolis (you can look up their party affiliations) are white. Don’t get me wrong, their black leaders have also failed them. But, as you suggest, to blame the President is laughable. As for the media, they are corporations losing money. The younger generation don’t have cable and they get their online news from free sources like Twitter. As a result, the media has become more bombastic and controversial in an attempt to attract readership and stabilize revenues. This is very unfortunate.

Cross Klobuchar off the VP list, I guess... https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/29/us/politics/klobuchar-minneapolis-george-floyd.html

I’m definitely disgusted by the death of George Floyd. This is a senseless death. Completely preventable. The problem I have is the deaths of African Americans is an everyday thing in cities like Baltimore, Atlanta, and Chicago. The difference is that this is gang violence. The media doesn’t report it, nor do they care. It doesn’t boost ratings or increase readership. Disgusting.

Press conferences saying one thing, arrest records saying the opposite. You surprised?

What people say at a PC is fact nowadays? Here’s some numbers from Minneapolis: https://www.fox9.com/news/jail-records-show-most-arrested-in-minneapolis-riots-have-minnesota-addresses

Of course, it’s not us, it’s them. Pretty much every municipality, in every state, is claiming the same thing. Do you see a logistic problem with this? This is coordination that would make out own US military jealous.

I’m not going to get too down on Daboll, but I think the criticism he gets (which I wasn’t doing directly) is that he’s yet to have consistent success anywhere as an OC. I’ll certainly work with him to see, but to blame his lack of success on having a young QB isn’t looking at his whole body of work. Chan is Chan. We know what he is and what he isn’t. He’s been in the league for decades and he certainly deserves respect for this. He brings respectability to the Phins in the least. As for Daboll, I guess we’ll see. He’s either going to do do well enough to deserve HC interviews or he’ll flame out and be back coaching TEs or in the NCAA again. Either scenario wouldn’t surprise me.

I would love to see Chan running our offense, but at this point, I’ll stick with the continuity.

While DWI is a horrible offense, unfortunately, in the world of the NFL, this is a lesser offense. We’ve all done stupid things. Hopefully, he realized he could’ve killed someone, grows up, and doesn’t do it again. It could’ve been much worse, he could’ve been on video with a Dolphins or Pats T shirt.

That’s some quote there.

This doesn’t sound too different than the world we all live in today.

Kelly threw plenty of bone headed INTs during his time and in ungodly amount of 3-and-outs, but, when you had 2 minutes left to go downfield for the go-ahead score, he was money. Bruce was playing on a whole different level though.

Process guy

And this will go down as one of the biggest lopsided trades in history. Bass will dominate and Fromm was supposed to be Brady’s replacement.

It would be very simple to grade TE vs other TEs, but what would be in common between the grading criteria between a TE and a DE or WR and a RG? I agree you can throw them all up on a board at the end, but a inter-position bias is going to be introduced during the scoring process. If you want to score long jump, 40 times, wing span, or even attitude or football IQ, then sure, you can sort away.

Is it just a coincidence that most of Beane’s pics were those of need? Look at the holes that he plugged, all with draft picks. People throw around the BPA label way too much. For example, how do you pick the BPA between a DE and a TE? Unless you are going on non-football stuff, like the vertical jump, they’re not objectively comparable. Positions are either you need them or you don’t. Beane picked up a DE (a hole), a bruising RB to spell Devin (a hole), a bigger WR (a hole), a kicker (needed to be improved), and a backup QB (needed to be improved). The only BPA selected were probably Jackson, Hodgins, and the UDFAs.