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Saint Doug

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  1. 2 minutes ago, pennstate10 said:

    My best guess is that this is correct.  The Hit didnt look severe enough to cause commotio cordis, and if it did, he would have sudden vfib, and wouldnt have stood up.

     

    I think a vascular injury, vertebral artery (neck seemed to take most of the blow) or aortic/subclavian artery rupture/dissection is most likely. Seems that he's stabilized now, but may have suffered brain injury due to cardiac arrest or hypotension. 

    Was discussing with wife. We’re both physicians and this is what we think as well . One moment talking to teammates and the next, on the ground. Aortic rupture/dissection is likely - something caused blood from reaching the brain quickly. V fib from a hit to chest wouldn’t have been delayed. 

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  2. 28 minutes ago, Scott7975 said:

     

    I could still see Miami losing to the Jets. That D is legit.  Just need White to not turn over the football.

    They’ll throw him around like a rag doll again. It’s really not the players fault, but I imagine someone is going to get the distinction of ending this guy’s career, perhaps in an ugly way. 

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  3. On 12/31/2022 at 6:42 PM, Rochesterfan said:

     

    They have to show signs - motor impairment, stumbling, looking dazed, going toward 5he wrong sideline or huddle, not looking stable, ataxia, etc. and Tua showed none of that.


    But do they? The Dolphins already have shown even this doesn’t cut it. So, I’m not going to rely on them to pick up subtle clues. 

  4. 19 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

     

    Being ready and being 100% are two different things as we saw with Allen's elbow issues. They likely won't be playing cupcakes in the playoffs like they have in the regular season.

    I’m really not sure what a “shoulder sprain” is other than a diagnosis of exclusion. Sounds like something that shouldn’t be a problem, until it is. This is his throwing arm and any injury to his rotator cuff could get ugly fast. They should shelve him until the playoffs. 

  5. 1 hour ago, Beck Water said:

     

    So I mean, what's undiagnosed?  He had an x-ray at the Stadium, which unlike the Visitor's locker room is updated equipment.  He had a doctor examine him.

     

    It's a league-wide practice: guys get dinged up, make sure nothing's broken and there are no findings on physical exam like joint laxity or limited ROM.  Then they take painkillers or a painkiller shot and go back in the game. 


    He may not have needed a shot, either.  Human pain tolerance when adrenaline and endorphins are all revv'ed up is pretty incredible.

    He had an undiagnosed rib injury. A negative x-ray by no means an absence of a rib fracture. So, you have to go by function. Is a player able to perform in an absence of analgesics? Miller’s ACL wasn’t seen on the most sensitive imaging we have, yet still had an ACL tear. No one was going to inject that knee with toradol, pat him on the butt, and send him back in. 
     

    Now, if a player has a known injury and it’s determined that playing through discomfort won’t affect the long-term prognosis, then inject away. You don’t do this clinically unclear injuries though. 

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