Saint Doug

If EJ is so mature and has a great attitude, he should understand and accept the message of us drafting a 1st round QB. The worse that could happen is they both become starters and we deal one for another 1st rounder. Besides, I see the QB position as the only positional need on this team that would justify a top 5 pick. It would be a waste to spend a top 5 pick on a safety, LG, or TE. We are fairly set at WR and RB. Possibly could justify an OLB or DB, but nothing else besides that. Plus, our defense is young and is showing tons on promise (unlike EJ) so I don't see them needing top-5 pick help. I agree with that to some extent, but we will never a team until we have a QB. It appears QB's like EJ (RGIII, Kaepernick, Newton) tend to regress in their 2nd season (once opposing teams have a whole season if film), so unless there's a complete turn-around next season, EJ's not going to lead us anywhere next year.

The problem with EJ is he thinks this an experiment too. He plays like people expect him to suck and doesn't play to win.

Say what you want about Marv, I doubt Ralph could have answered those questions any better.

This. As for "letting his teammates down", turn on any football game next Sunday and I bet you see a handful of examples of players letting their teammates down. Difference is, they're still collecting a paycheck. Look at Byrd. Another shinning example of letting your teammates down while getting rich. This guy did the best thing for himself and his (former) team. Besides, teams use players just the same. Just ask Flynn.

I suppose. The Saints game just left a horrible stain on my mind.

$35 plus food and parking. And that's assuming you go alone.

Another point of view would be not which TE can we get, but who can we grab to neutralize opposing TEs. That seems to be more of a problem for us rather than giving EJ another receiver (when it seems he has plenty and Woods should be a stud next season).

Wait, we going to release our 3rd string QB, the only healthy QB on our roster who knows our offense, because during his first NFL start he lost a game against an undefeated team? Yep, makes perfect sense. Alex Smith was downright pedestrian. How many turnovers did our defense produce?

I'm all for analytics helping guide Marrone's decisions. Doctor's use guidelines based on evidence (evidence based medicine) too, so why shouldn't coaches. Sure, people's health isn't football, but the same concepts apply. Doing something because you've always done it that way doesn't mean it's right. And people's "gut reactions" tend to not be the best. Remember, even the greatest of coaches couldn't win a Super Bowl for another team. There's more to it than instinct. In fact, I'm shocked analytics have caught on more for the draft. After all these years there must be enough data points to construct a mathematical model for draftee success. But, the fact that's he's from Buffalo means they probably couldn't recruit anyone better.

This team should always be looking to get better. A QB in the 2nd or 3rd round will aid in that progress. Not a knock on EJ, who's already had 2 significant injuries in his short NFL career, but more of an insurance policy.

Plug in and warm up the fax machine!

I guess either would be fine with me, assuming the NFL gave us a 4th (or better). The Texans won a 3rd rounder for losing Williams. However, supposedly comp picks are based on salary, playing time, and post-season accolades (and other players signed/lost). If it's based on the previous season only, it looks like we won't get much for Byrd. I'm assuming it would be cost prohibitive to franchise him again (120% this years salary = $9.5 million). And based on his production this year, this assumption may be correct.

I think he'd be able to can the ST coach because Marrone isn't a ST coach himself. Crossman isn't his protege per se and firing his underperforming friend would earn a lot of respect from the fan base. You also said we need a MLB? We have a budding star at MLB.

As long as Marrone is HC, they'll never hire another OC. First, it will signal that Marrone, being a former OC himself, was a poor judge in identifying the qualities it takes to be a good OC. Second, it will show that Marrone has the inability to teach an offensive-minded coach on how to be a good OC. Lastly, Marrone will likely take over play calling before he fires Hackett. And if this fails, then I doubt Marrone will be around to hire another OC. I completely agree on the firing of the ST coach though. In fact, that would be the admirable thing to do.

I would be happy for a 5th, ecstatic for a 4th. Seriously, is there really any doubt about trading him for whatever we can get vs keeping him for 9 more games and having him leave for nothing?

That's all we get? Moar please.

His attitude plus his play, even if it's above average at best, doesn't warrant top-5 safety money. I hope the Bills don't bite on this one. Let some other team make the mistake. At this point, we'd be lucky to get a 4th for him. Really, one of our safeties made a TD-saving pass block? Wouldn't you expect this of any DB playing for us? That play doesn't warrant top-5 safety money.

That does it!

Good stop.

What a surprise.

Might as well challenge.

Sweet int by ne.

Flag. Of course. Good call. Let's play the game.

Plenty of football left.

That's more convincing.