Albany,n.y.

Back in 2018 I was one of those people who thought the Jets had outmaneuvered us when they moved from #6 to #3. My 1st reaction was the Jets were going to screw us out of getting the QB we wanted. It sure didn't work out that way. One season of Darnold & Mike Maccagnan, the GM who I thought pulled off the draft coup, was fired by the Jets.

Give Buddy Nix a call & he'll know. He knew not to draft Russell Wilson before the 4th round & made a great move up for TJ Graham because he knew he wouldn't last & Wilson would definitely be there in the 4th round. Sarcasm aside, you never wait for another round to draft a player you want because you think you can get away with letting him slip a round. NEVER!

You want your top pick to play. Thinking like that is what PO'd Aaron Rodgers last year when GB picked a QB when he wanted another piece to get to the Super Bowl. Result: Rodgers lost at home in the NFC championship game while GBs #1 pick sat.

The team is in win now mode. Don't draft a WR high when the room is already packed. CB, RB, DL. WR is a waste of a pick this year. Only a team with a win in the next 2-3 years & not win now with the WRs we have would draft a WR.

Here's a reason why teams are willing to give up so much for a highly rated QB I looked at all the drafts since the modern draft began in the mid 1960s with when the AFL-NFL war ended. Your best shot of getting the long term answer at QB is in the top 10 picks of the draft. The hit rate on top 10 QBs is about 50%. Now this becomes a glass half full or half empty issue, but 50% is pretty high compared with the rest of the draft. Once you go past pick 10, the rest of the 1st round drops to a 30% hit rate. That's consistent with the Bills last 3 #1s below pick 10: Kelly, Losman, Manuel. Now you can try to find your guy in the 2nd round. Hits include Brees, Favre, Cunningham, Esaison,... but the hit rate goes down to 20%, and its been getting tougher in recent years to find a starter in the 2nd round. The only recent 2nd rounders who became starters were D. Carr, Garoppolo, Dalton & Kaepernick. Philadelphia is hoping Hurts can be added to that list, but the jury is still out on him. So teams know that to have much more than just a shot in the dark, the best way to get your long term answer at QB is a top 10 pick.

They won't cut him. They can get a 2nd or 3rd round pick for him. We got the 1st pick of the 3rd round for Tyrod when, like Darnold, he was on the last year of his contract.

With the 2nd pick of the NFL draft, I want the Jets to pick Dustin Crum QB Kent State. Is he a reach, sure, but the OP asked which QB do I want the Jets to draft. and as a Bills fan, I want the Jets to make the worst possible decision. Plus, when he plays poorly the NY Post & Daily News back pages can say "Crum-y QB sinks Jets"

They had no choice since they drafted Tua in the top 5 a year ago & don't consider him a bust. They couldn't draft another QB, so it was best to trade out of the pick. When Arizona drafted back to back #1 QBs in 2018 & 2019 it was because they could see that Rosen was a bust & got something for him before the whole league knew what they knew. If they thought they had something in Rosen, they would have traded out of the top spot. It still amazes me that Daniel Jones was picked 6th in the entire draft. I thought the Giants would take Jones, but I thought it would be at pick 17. Obviously Miami thinks that Tua is the answer, or at least hopes he is. Now if Houston had been bad enough to get Miami the top pick, I have no doubt they would be selecting Lawrence & trading Tua, but pick 3 only gets you the 3rd best QB prospect in this year's draft.

Better, knows to keep his clothes on outside of the locker room and parts of his house.

Who knows if there will still be an NFL in 2922

When the Bills traded up to #12 in 2018 and within a week the Jets traded up from 6 to 3, I was convinced that the Jets had screwed over the Bills & would get the better QB in 2018. Fortunately for the Bills & unfortunately for the Jets the Jets picked the wrong guy & the Bills picked the right guy. While there's some luck involved, the teams with the better scouts & management will always come out ahead of the mismanaged teams in the long run. We were mismanaged for so many years that by the time Beane, McDermott and the new scouting staff arrived any QB pick we made was questioned by the fans. When I read the stories of how diligent the Bills were in scouting the QB class of 2018 from watching tape of every one of Josh's plays in college to watching him on the sidelines to seeing how he interacted with the Bills office staff, it's like they wrote the book on how to scout and draft a franchise QB. I get on the people I call the "stat boys" at times, and in 2018 the stat boys wanted nothing to do with Josh Allen. It doesn't matter how the game has changed over the years, film study will always be more important than looking blindly at QB stats and so does the due diligence of interviewing a player & the coaches who coach him. When the Raiders chose JaMarcus Russell with the #1 pick they didn't do enough due diligence. At one point Matt Millen called Al Davis specifically to warn him how much of a slug Russell was after Millen interviewed Russell & Russell was horrible during the meeting. Millen was honestly trying to warn Davis but old Al wouldn't listen. It was pretty close to the same thing the year SD drafted Ryan Leaf after he came to the combine out of shape & blew off an interview with the Colts. Then after he was drafted Leaf told the Chargers he was going to party in Las Vegas as long as he wanted before coming to SD for an introductory presser. I heard the Leaf story on the radio one day years ago when they were interviewing an ex-Charger front office man & he was asked when was the 1st time you knew you were in trouble by drafting Ryan Leaf. They should have known about his flawed character before the draft, not right after they drafted him.

You're right! I looked it up in the Bills media guide.

IDK, but he has a brother named Norman who is a real psycho.

I went out & bought Josh's jersey right after the Vikings game & it's the 1st jersey I ever bought (I'm in my 60s so it shows you what I thought of Josh). I totally agree on the ruined QB stuff. I've been saying for many years no team can ruin a QB unless they do something stupid that he gets a career threatening injury that could have been avoided. I believe QBs ruin coaches careers, not the other way around.

I see Fromm never playing a down in any NFL real game. He will play his way off the team in his preseason appearances. Trubisky is here for the whole season. The only reason McCarron was traded was because he played himself out of the starter's job & didn't like the idea of being a backup in Buffalo because he had a swelled head, but settled for a backup job when he was traded to Oakland. Not the 1st time a team took a 5th round flyer on a guy & then found out he wasn't NFL material. There are more 5th round busts than the Kyle Williams & Matt Milanos.

Without the sarcasm that's correct. Look at the QBs drafted in the last 2 drafts. Outside of #1 picks Murray & Burrow, the only other QB that they could have drafted to make your statement correct was last year's #6 Herbert. So unless they had convinced Tom Brady to play in Buffalo instead of Tampa, they would still be in QB limbo-see NY Jets.

I think that the Bills expected to take a few steps backwards with the QBs they had (McCarron, Peterman & a raw rookie in Allen) on the day of the draft and didn't want to include a high 2019 draft pick.

I edited that before I saw your post. Based on the leaked Bills board prior to the draft, Beane was willing to make the proposed Denver trade to 5 for any of his top 3. In order they were Allen, Darnold & Mayfield. There was no plan to trade up beyond those 3 which means they would still be looking if Cleveland & the Jets took Allen & Mayfield.

They really didn't neglect the position, the old regimes just didn't do everything possible to get the right guy. Look at what was tried over the years using the 1st 3 rounds of the draft (I'm not going beyond the 3rd round since drafting a QB beyond that is not really trying, just hoping for a low percentage pick to exceed expectations): 1995-Used a 2nd rd pick to draft the QB they thought could be the QB of the future in Todd Collins 1997-Traded a 3rd round pick for Billy Joe Hobert 1998: Traded a 1st and a 4th for Rob Johnson, signed Doug Flutie 2002: Traded a 1st round pick in 2003 for Drew Bledsoe 2004: Traded a 2nd, 5th, & a 2005 1st for Dallas' 1st rd pick to draft J.P. Losman 2007: Used a 3rd rd pick (from McGahee trade) too draft Trent Edwards 2013: 1st round pick on EJ Manuel So between Jim Kelly & Josh Allen the Bills used 4 1st round picks to acquire QBs, two 2nd rd picks-one to draft & 1 as part of a move up trade for QBs, and two 3rds. That's 8 premium picks in attempts to get a QB. So it's not like the Bills old GMs didn't try, they just picked the wrong guys or didn't have the courage to package enough picks to get a guy they wanted like the 2004 draft when the Bills wanted to move up for Ben Roethlisberger but didn't make any team above them an offer that team couldn't refuse and then settled for a trade up later in the 1st for JP Losman. Now look at what the Bills did in 2018 under current management. After the 2017 season they were sitting with picks 21 & 22 where it would be impossible to get the QB they wanted. I believe that none of the prior GMs from the end of Kelly's career to Allen's drafts would have ever done enough to get the Bills to pick 7. Actually, the Bills were planning on moving up to 5 until Denver backed out when Chubb was still available. If Cleveland had drafted Chubb at 4, the Bills would have traded up to 5 with Denver to take Josh Allen. Beane planned to move heaven & earth to make sure he was in position to get his man. He traded for another 2nd before the 2017 season, traded Glenn & 21 to get to 12 & then pulled off the trade the prior GMs wouldn't dare to do. Then he drafted the QB that the organization believed in in spite of being laughed at by the analytics guys who used stats instead of tape & in person interviews. The Bills didn't neglect the QB position all those years. They tried, but made poor decisions & didn't have the courage to try to get into the top 10 by giving up what others would call too much. Maybe they relied too much on the points system most of the time. Beane didn't care about points. After the trade up to 12 with Cincinnati he was willing to trade the 1,910 draft points for 1,501 points to draft Allen. In the earlier proposed trade with Denver, he was going to trade picks 12, 22 & 53 for 5, a trade of 2,350 points for 1,700 points. Even with all that planning, it still could have gone wrong. If Cleveland had drafted Allen & the Jets Mayfield, the Bills would have ended up trading up to 7 for Sam Darnold. The planning worked but the Bills also got lucky the Browns and Jets didn't draft Josh.

I remember some drafts where a team traded the next year's 1st rounder for that year's 2nd round pick. The problem for the Bills if they did that would be they wouldn't have a 1st rounder this year & their 1st pick would be #61 where the teams that traded away their 2nd rounder already picked in the 1st round. Here's one where a team traded their 2nd rounder for a #1 pick 2 years away San Diego → Tampa Bay (PD). Tampa Bay traded their 1998 second-round pick to San Diego in exchange for their first round pick in 2000.

2 seasons & Fromm will cook at the Big Tree Inn

There is NO WAY in the world that they're not going to extend Josh Allen, NONE. Beane knows how tough it is to find a franchise QB & he also knows if the Bills tried to replace Josh with Mitch Trubisky Pegula would have to spend a lot more $ to build a new stadium than any contract he'd end up giving Josh because if the Bills tried to sell fans on Trubisky over Allen the fans would riot and wreck the current stadium beyond repair.

Since the Bills signed Trubisky with the intent of 1 & done in 2021, they'll be in the market for a new backup in 2022. If Sam Darnold has another mediocre season, he'll be in the same spot Trubisky was in this offseason. If that's the case I think Sam Darnold will be the backup in 2022. Shades of when OJ was the franchise & the Bills drafted his buddy Al Cowlings. Now I don't expect any murders or slow speed chases after Josh & Sam retire. 😄

Maybin led the Jets in sacks in 2011 with 6, then was waived before the end of the 2012 season. I think he fits quite nicely as a 1 year wonder since all his career sacks were in 2011.

It was actually the then named Washington Redskins who helped ruin him by letting him play hurt & exacerbate his injury. He never played for the team called the Washington Football Team.