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Hedgecock was a misprint, he got a 24. I've just put all the Wonderlics into an excel spreadsheet & when I've got them sorted I'll be posting all of them.
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"What's all this about my head size?" Bonds asked. "My hat size is the same today as when I started. My head hasn't grown. I've always been a 7 1-4 to a 7 3-8 my whole career. You can go check.
"I can tell you my testicles are the same size," he added later. "They haven't shrunk. They're the same and work just the same as they always have."
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Personally speaking, I'm very disappointed by this signing. Clearly, the brass at OBD are lost in their ability to find true back up talent because if they had any sense about them at all, they would have brought Flutie in here. Everyone knows Flutie would adjust better to JP's gameplans...and everyone knows that Flutie just wins. It's what he does. He wins.
We could have gotten Flutie at what clearly would be fair market value, and it's clear that all you chuckleheads who like hiring of Holcomb are nothing more than TD butt-kissing kool-aid drinking chumps.
Kelly Holcomb, indeed.
Flutie is still on SD. We'd be tampering.
PS I know you're just joking
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Earlier in the week they had Ryan Fitzpatrick at 50 as the only score, but today he's at 38.
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Here are the combine Wonderlics on the QBs. I'll get more when the web site I subscribe to publishes them. So far all they have is QBs & some FBs. One fullback, Madison Hedgecock of North Carolina scored a 2.
Smith, Alex* 40
Frye, Charlie 38
Fitzpatrick, Ryan 38
Rodgers, Aaron* 35
LeFors, Stefan 35
Ochs, Craig 34
Walter, Andrew 31
Orlovsky, Dan 30
Guidugli, Gino 30
Haldi, Josh 30
Campbell, Jason 28
Orton, Kyle 27
Long, Dustin 27
Rix, Chris 26
Chang, Timmy 26
McPherson, Adrian* 26
Dougherty, Ben 25
Anderson, Derek 23
White, Jason 21
Greene, David 19
Randall, Bryan 19
Allen, Jared 19
Berlin, Brock 13
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I'm shocked, but I can't think of a better backup. Great move, if anything happens to JP we've got a guy who not only has starting experience but also playoff experience & is not over the hill like Warner, Testaverde and others.
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The Browns have offered Holcomb 5 years $10 million. He's trying for 5 years $12 million. We're not going to pay him $2.4 million per for 5 years to backup JP. So, take Holcomb off the Bills list of possible backups.
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"Tough wide body lineman has played both guard and tackle for the Bears makeshift line over recent seasons before his release. He gained valuable experience in his short career and is a lineman with some upside if he proves healthy and settles into a position. The Bears cut him loose at midseason and made him a street free agent. He is still a young 26 years old with extensive experience and capable of being a big surprise in the right situation. He is only a stop gap tackle and needs to play guard where he excelled at Notre Dame as a collegian. "Boom or bust" addition with the tools to be a major FA steal"
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TD - Mike, we have a few things to discuss about the team as FA begins.
MM - I'm listening Mr. Donahoe.
TD - First off, you did one hell of a job last year until DB crapped himself against the Pitt wannabes and that's why I released him. Now you can start next year with a young, unproven QB with 0 starts. He looks very promising, but his backup has proven throughout his whole career that he blows, so keep "The Kid" healthy.
MM - I am excited about JP, but I would like to have a proven veteran BU to help "The Kid" along.
TD - That is not important right now Mike. Now secondly, I am going to let our best starting O-lineman go sign somewhere else also, can't afford him and IF someone becomes available, I will pick him up if it will benefit the team. Right now, there is no one out there so we will worry about that later.
MM - I think we will be allright Mr. Donahoe, we still have one of the best D's in the league to keep games close.
TD - That brings me to my third point Mike. I am also releasing our best D-lineman too. Can't afford him either. Let's just hope we don't face alot of good RBs this year.
MM - This is starting to get a little ugly Mr. Donahoe. Please, at least tell me you have upgraded the K position.
TD - Good news Mike. Rian is not the worst K in the league anymore, he is 2nd worst now that I signed Owen Poachmen. That should help Rian's confidence.
MM - Okay TOM, who do we take in the 1st round of the draft this year.
TD - Oh yeah, I forgot to mention that to you last year. I traded our 1st RD pick to Dallas. Don't worry Mike, when the 1st available FA from IUP becomes available, I will have him here before you can blink your eyes.
MM - Tom, Phuck you I QUIT.
I think it went more like this:
TD: Did you see Rayzer32's latest post on the Stadium Wall
MM: Yes I did he's an f'n moron
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Because TD has determined that Williams & Jennings have priced themselves off the team.
Pat Williams has a lot of miles on him & is overweight. He going to be 33 in October & is just not a good investment.
Jennings is a little tougher to take because unlike Williams, he should be around in 5 years when a new contract might expire. However, Jennings has missed too many games to be given top $.
I see nothing wrong with TD demanding value from players he signs for big $. Both Williams & Jennings are flawed players due to Williams' age and projected longevity, which isn't close to the # of years on the contract he'll sign and Jennings' lack of durability.
Just because the cap room is there doesn't mean it's for a current Bill.
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Janay & Lindsay for the girls (Although I'd cut Mikalah before Lindsay)
Constantine & Scott for the boys.
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"It's my team"
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Somethings up with the backup RB situation.
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I entered the contest. A lot of my 300 words were about before & after the game so I'm worried that I'll be downgraded for that.
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I thought Anthony Federov & Bo Bice were the best tonight, but I still like Carrie Underwood to win it all.
I thought Ozzie Smith's son, Nikko was the most improved from last week. He's probably the richest contestant since his father made millions in baseball.
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Uh Dude, just because you take a QB in the first round that doesn't necessarily solve all your problems. I'm not going to waste time here listing all the bad QBs taken in the first round (Klinger, Leaf, McNown, Akil Smith, etc.), but there sure seem to be just as many hits as misses over the past half dozen years. ..... And how would you know what the Cowboys and Patriots were thinking during their drafts ----- you are assuming things without any facts.
I have no clue what Dallas is thinking during their drafts, & I'm starting to believe that they don't either.
It was quite obvious that NE was not thinking of replacing Bledsoe with Brady or anyone else within a year or 2, because they signed Drew to a big contract. That fact is quite clear. It all changed with the hit that sidelined Drew.
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Yes, but the Cowboys didn't know the Bills were taking JP ----- they just sent the pick to Buffalo because the Bills met their asking price.
If we want to get real technical here you could sya the Cowboys and the rest of the league blew it by not drafting Brady ----- dude's a sixth-round draft pick and has got three Super Bowl rings: that says it all.
I don't buy the idea Dallas didn't know who we were trading for. I knew it was Losman the second the Dallas helmet changed to a Bills helmet when I was watching the draft. If I knew it, I'm sure Dallas had it figured out because the only player that it made sense for the Bills to trade up for at that point was Losman, based on the availability of QBs the rest of the 2004 draft & the 2005 one.
The Brady analogy has no context to Dallas, who have needed a QB for years, and has bben in position to draft one in the 1st round and instead put all their eggs in Carter/Hutchinson & then Carter/Henson baskets. NE didn't think they needed one when they drafted Brady-They had just given Drew a new contract which at the time they believed committed the QB job to Drew for the forseeable future.
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If I'm TD and Nugent is available & not on my board I'm going to b*tch slap Modrak and any scout within reach. Then I'm going to override my board and pick the guy who can win me the Super Bowl with one kick.
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If we could go back every year of the TD era, I'd bet someone posted the same question a couple of days before free agency began in most years.
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Part of my post was for humor, but where I think Dallas (Parcells) really messed up was for 2 straight years the Cowboys had a shot at getting a player at the most important position in football and decided they were content with what they had. In 2002, Byron Leftwich was available when Dallas picked, but they took a CB instead, content with Carter & Hutchinson. Last year they decided to put their future in the hands of a guy who wanted to play baseball, not football and was basically forced into going back to football because he was so bad at the game he truly loves (as were Carter & Hutchinson before him). Past history on QBs making that move shows a very poor success rate, Hutchinson should have taught them something.
Now Parcells has no confidence in Drew Henson (actions speak louder than words) and is stuck with our reject. I hope JP makes it big, but no matter what happens, Dallas has completely bungled their QB selections. If JP & Leftwich are as good as each team's organization expects out of them Dallas looks like fools for missing out on both in consecutive years.
Also, when we made the trade it was specifically for JP Losman, the same cannot be said at the time we gave Jacksonville pick 9 before the draft started.
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Do not expect many positive replies. The majority here literally hate Drew and give him ALL of the blame for the failures of the Bills, and for that matter, zero credit for 9 wins in 05. They also have JP penciled in for Canton. That to most here is a done deal.
For the record, I support the coaches decision to make the switch. That said, I accept the possibility that JP will suck. All I am asking for is a legit backup. You will find that many here see no need for this, despite the fact that JP has ZERO experience, and was almost killed while brushing up against a defensive back.
No way I have JP penciled in for Canton. I put it down in indelible ink.
Dallas will be known as the team that traded away JP, just like Atlanta is known as the team that traded Bret Favre.
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You can't get much worse than NYC-extra city taxes, housing is super expensive all over etc & the teams are still able to get quality free agents. It also doesn't seem to hurt the California teams.
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We can get Newsday in Albany. It's too bad that the web link doesn't have the pictures of him on the sidelines that are in the newspaper. He looks pretty much the same + 30 years.
When I was going to college at Fredonia the Braves used to train there.
Complete Combine Wonderlics
in The Stadium Wall Archives
Posted
Enjoy
C Hangartner, Geoff Texas AM 47
QB Smith, Alex* Utah 40
TE Miller, Heath* Virginia 39
QB Frye, Charlie Akron 38
QB Fitzpatrick, Ryan Harvard 38
TE Bajema, Billy Oklahoma State 37
G Baas, David Michigan 37
DT Castillo, Luis Northwestern 37
OT Berger, Joe Michigan Tech 36
QB Rodgers, Aaron* California 35
QB LeFors, Stefan Louisville 35
ILB Ruud, Barrett Nebraska 35
CB Bartell, Ronald Howard 35
QB Ochs, Craig Montana 34
OT Brown, Tim West Virginia 34
OT Kieft, Adam Central Michigan 34
DE Canty, Chris Virginia 34
ILB Grigsby, Boomer Illinois State 34
P Benekos, Bryce UTEP 34
WR Jackson, Vincent Northern Colorado 33
C Preston, Duke Illinois 33
OT Britt, Wesley Alabama 33
K Jones, Tyler Boise State 33
DE Riddle, Ryan California 33
ILB Seward, Adam UNLV 33
FS Considine, Sean Iowa 33
TE Smith, Alex Stanford 32
C Brown, Jason North Carolina 32
C Incognito, Richie* Nebraska 32
G Buenning, Dan Wisconsin 32
OT Essex, Trai Northwestern 32
OT Pears, Erik Colorado State 32
DE Swancutt, Bill Oregon State 32
QB Walter, Andrew Arizona State 31
G Mankins, Logan Fresno State 31
G Nienhuis, Doug Oregon State 31
CB Wilson, Stanley Stanford 31
QB Orlovsky, Dan Connecticut 30
QB Guidugli, Gino Cincinnati 30
QB Haldi, Josh Northern Illinois 30
WR Moore, Lance Toledo 30
OT Loper, Daniel Texas Tech 30
DE Pollack, David Georgia 30
ILB Crowder, Channing* Florida 30
OLB Burnett, Kevin Tennessee 30
OLB Newberry, Jared Stanford 30
OLB Boley, Michael Southern Miss 30
FS Atogwe, O.J. Stanford 30
TE Crafts, Jonas UTEP 29
OT Roos, Michael Eastern Washington 29
OT Kaczur, Nick Toledo 29
OT Alabi, Anthony TCU 29
OT Geisinger, Justin Vanderbilt 29
OT Connolly, Dan SE Missouri State 29
DE Tuck, Justin* Notre Dame 29
DE Fraser, Simon Ohio State 29
DT Cody, Shaun Southern Cal 29
DT Alexander, Lorenzo California 29
ILB Tatupu, Lofa* Southern Cal 29
QB Campbell, Jason Auburn 28
TE Jackson, Tony Iowa 28
TE Holmes, Alex Southern Cal 28
TE Griffeth, Kelly Fort Hays State 28
WR Sheldon, Dan Northern Illinois 28
C Mruczkowski, Scott Bowling Green 28
G Gandy, Dylan Texas Tech 28
OT Petitti, Rob Pittsburgh 28
OT Dahl, Harvey Nevada 28
ILB Patterson, Martin TCU 28
ILB Ezekiel, Liam Northeastern 28
CB Elimimian, Abraham Hawaii 28
SS Abdullah, Hamza Washington State 28
QB Orton, Kyle Purdue 27
QB Long, Dustin Sam Houston State 27
TE Bergen, Adam Lehigh 27
WR Edwards, Braylon Michigan 27
WR Bragg, Craig UCLA 27
G Snyder, Adam Oregon 27
OT Armstrong, Calvin Washington State 27
K Payne, Matt BYU 27
P/KR Bragg, Craig UCLA 27
OLB Beck, Jordan Cal Poly 27
QB Rix, Chris Florida State 26
QB Chang, Timmy Hawaii 26
QB McPherson, Adrian* Florida State 26
FB Tuiasosopo, Zach Washington 26
RB Pearman, Alvin Virginia 26
RB Grant, Ryan Notre Dame 26
TE Collins, Jerome Notre Dame 26
C Hodgdon, Drew Arizona State 26
OT Colmer, Chris North Carolina St 26
OT Terry, Adam Syracuse 26
P/KR Pearman, Alvin Virginia 26
DT Ellison, Atiyyah Missouri 26
DT Bulman, Tim Boston College 26
ILB Goolsby, Mike Notre Dame 26
OLB Grootegoed, Matt Southern Cal 26
SS Conway, Atcheson Bowie State 26
QB Dougherty, Ben Florida A&M 25
RB Herron, Noah Northwestern 25
TE Dreessen, Joel Colorado State 25
C Wilkerson, Ben LSU 25
C Hunt, Rob North Dakota State 25
G Mathis, Evan Alabama 25
G Myers, Chris Miami (FL) 25
OT Munoz, Michael Tennessee 25
OT Wilder, Sam Colorado 25
P/KR Williams, Darrent Oklahoma State 25
DE Poppinga, Brady BYU 25
DE Frazier, Andre Cincinnati 25
DT Johnson, Travis Florida State 25
DT Hawthorne, Anttaj Wisconsin 25
ILB Morrison, Kirk San Diego State 25
ILB Hill, Leroy Clemson 25
OLB Welsh, Jonathan Wisconsin 25
CB Williams, Darrent Oklahoma State 25
CB Washington, Fabian* Nebraska 25
CB Starks, Scott Wisconsin 25
P Hodges, Reggie Ball State 25
FB Hedgecock, Madison North Carolina 24
RB Davis, Anthony Wisconsin 24
WR Lyman, Chase California 24
C Ghiaciuc, Eric Central Michigan 24
G Brooks, C.J. Maryland 24
OT Watson, Mike West Virginia 24
OT Willis, Ray Florida State 24
P/KR Leonhard, Jim Wisconsin 24
OLB Pollard, Jonathan Oregon State 24
OLB Cooper, Roger Montana State 24
CB Curry, Markus Michigan 24
FS Francisco, Aaron BYU 24
FS Fuller, Vincent Virginia Tech 24
FS Leonhard, Jim Wisconsin 24
FS Underwood, Marviel San Diego State 24
FS Harmon, Jason Michigan State 24
QB Anderson, Derek Oregon State 23
RB Brown, Ronnie Auburn 23
RB Shelton, Eric* Louisville 23
WR Currie, Airese Clemson 23
WR West, Isaac Furman 23
G Terrell, Claude New Mexico 23
K Nugent, Mike Ohio State 23
DE Duckett, Adell Texas Tech 23
DE King, Tyler Connecticut 23
CB Routt, Stanford Houston 23
SS Bigby, Atari Central Florida 23
RB Williams, Carnell Auburn 22
G Steitz, Nick Oregon 22
OT Sims, Wes Oklahoma 22
K Rayner, Dave Michigan State 22
P/KR Miller, Justin* Clemson 22
DT Coleman, Eric Clemson 22
OLB Wallace, Rian* Temple 22
CB Miller, Justin* Clemson 22
CB Hodge, Alphonso Miami (OH) 22
SS Holley, Terry Rice 22
P Finley, Adam Michigan 22
QB White, Jason Oklahoma 21
FB Dudley, Kevin Michigan 21
RB Sproles, Darren Kansas State 21
RB Gates, Lionel Louisville 21
TE Kashetta, Dave Boston College 21
WR Clayton, Mark Oklahoma 21
WR Williamson, Troy* South Carolina 21
OT McMahon, Pete Iowa 21
OT Lightbody, Sam Washington State 21
DE Cody, Dan Oklahoma 21
DE Davis, Jim Virginia Tech 21
DT Jefferson, Jason Wisconsin 21
DT Pouha, Sione Utah 21
ILB Lawrence, Marcus South Carolina 21
ILB Fincher, Alfred Connecticut 21
OLB Johnson, Derrick Texas 21
OLB Wake, Derek Penn State 21
OLB Enzor, Jamar Cincinnati 21
CB Rolle, Antrel Miami (FL) 21
CB Jackson, Marlin Michigan 21
CB Johnson, Derrick Washington 21
FS Fox, Dustin Ohio State 21
FS Sensabaugh, Gerald North Carolina 21
P Colquitt, Dustin Tennessee 21
RB Jacobs, Brandon Southern Illinois 20
WR Williams, Mike* Southern Cal 20
WR Thorpe, Cro Florida State 20
WR Roby, Courtney Indiana 20
WR Perry, Tab UCLA 20
G Buckles, Doug Mississippi 20
OT Omiyale, Frank Tennessee Tech 20
K Novak, Nick Maryland 20
P/KR Perkins, Antonio Oklahoma 20
P/KR Perry, Tab UCLA 20
DE Ware, DeMarcus Troy 20
DE Thomas, Benard Nebraska 20
ILB McCune, Robert Louisville 20
OLB Harris, Marques Southern Utah 20
CB Perkins, Antonio Oklahoma 20
CB Foxworth, Domonique Maryland 20
CB McKenzie, Chris Arizona State 20
SS Maddox, Andre North Carolina St 20
SS Weeks, Marquis Virginia 20
FS Beriault, Justin Ball State 20
QB Greene, David Georgia 19
QB Randall, Bryan Virginia Tech 19
QB Allen, Jared Florida Atlantic 19
FB Matthews, Will Texas 19
RB Benson, Cedric Texas 19
RB Clarett, Maurice* Ohio State 19
RB Purify, Bobby Colorado 19
TE Jones, Matt Arkansas 19
WR Gibson, Fred Georgia 19
WR Mathis, Jerome Hampton 19
C Spencer, Chris* Mississippi 19
C Coston, Junius North Carolina AT 19
OT Barron, Alex Florida State 19
OT Parquet, Jeremy Southern Miss 19
P/KR Purify, Bobby Colorado 19
DE Awasom, Adrian North Texas 19
DE Merriman, Shawne* Maryland 19
DE Huntley, Kevin Kansas State 19
DT Mosley, C.J.* Missouri 19
DT McGruder, Lynn Oklahoma 19
OLB Wortham, Cornelius Alabama 19
OLB Goddard, Johnathan Marshall 19
OLB Hagler, Tyjuan Cincinnati 19
CB Browner, Brandon* Oregon State 19
CB McFadden, Bryant Florida State 19
CB Williams, Aric Oregon State 19
CB King, Eric Wake Forest 19
FS Davis, Thomas* Georgia 19
FS Bullocks, Josh* Nebraska 19
FS Emanuel, Ben UCLA 19
RB Moats, Ryan* Louisiana Tech 18
RB McLendon, T.A.* North Carolina St 18
RB Broughton, Nehemiah The Citadel 18
TE Scaife, Bo Texas 18
WR Brown, Reggie Georgia 18
WR Russell, J.R. Louisville 18
WR Ridgeway, Dante* Ball State 18
WR McCoy, Leron Indiana (Pa.) 18
G Clinkscale, Jonathan Wisconsin 18
OT Dunn, Jon Virginia Tech 18
DE Verdon, Jimmy Arizona State 18
OLB Claridge, Ryan UNLV 18
OLB Pettway, Kenneth Grambling State 18
CB Green, Eric Virginia Tech 18
SS Ferri, Diamond Syracuse 18
FS Butler, James Georgia Tech 18
FS Rhodes, Kerry Louisville 18
P Farden, Cole Oklahoma State 18
FB White Jr., Manuel UCLA 17
FB Green, Justin Montana 17
RB Houston, Cedric Tennessee 17
RB Birmingham, DeCori Arkansas 17
WR White, Roddy UAB 17
WR Davis, Josh Marshall 17
WR Brackins, Larry* Pearl River CC 17
WR Warren, Paris Utah 17
G Johnson, Marcus Mississippi 17
G Young, Scott BYU 17
G Robinson, Leon Georgia Tech 17
OT Stewart, David Mississippi State 17
DE James, Erasmus Wisconsin 17
DT Robinson, Derreck Iowa 17
RB Fason, Ciatrick* Florida 16
RB Barber III, Marion* Minnesota 16
RB Cobb, DeAndra Michigan State 16
WR Stovall, Chauncey Florida State 16
WR Madison, Tony Kansas State 16
OT Barnes, Khalif Washington 16
P/KR Barber III, Marion* Minnesota 16
P/KR Cobb, DeAndra Michigan State 16
DE Roth, Matt Iowa 16
DE Burns, Vincent Kentucky 16
DE McMillan, David Kansas 16
DT Fields, Ronald Mississippi State 16
OLB Blackstock, Darryl* Virginia 16
CB Holly, Daven Cincinnati 16
SS Shazor, Ernest* Michigan 16
FS Pool, Brodney* Oklahoma 16
TE Curtis, Tony Portland State 15
WR Murphy, Terrence Texas AM 15
WR Jones, Brandon Oklahoma 15
P/KR Murphy, Terrence Texas AM 15
DE Dukes, Clifford Michigan State 15
DT Shropshire, Darrell South Carolina 15
CB Hobbs, Ellis Iowa State 15
CB Paymah, Karl Washington State 15
SS Nicholson, Donte Oklahoma 15
RB Arrington, J.J. California 14
RB Hudson, Ray Alabama 14
WR Owens, Chad Hawaii 14
G Kemoeatu, Chris Utah 14
OT Colon, Jon Florida 14
K Rheem, Joe Kansas State 14
P/KR Owens, Chad Hawaii 14
DE Haye, Jovan* Vanderbilt 14
DE Gause, George South Carolina 14
DT Bryant, Anthony Alabama 14
DT Vickerson, Kevin Michigan State 14
ILB Mitchell, Lance Oklahoma 14
OLB Cole, Trent Cincinnati 14
CB Rogers, Carlos Auburn 14
FS Collins, Nick Bethune-Cookman 14
QB Berlin, Brock Miami (FL) 13
WR Savoy, Steve* Utah 13
WR Harrell, Reggie TCU 13
WR Marshall, Rasheed West Virginia 13
G Brown, Elton Virginia 13
P/KR Jones, Adam* West Virginia 13
DE Long, Khari Baylor 13
DT Babineaux, Jonathan Iowa 13
CB Jones, Adam* West Virginia 13
CB Wishom, Jerron Louisiana Tech 13
SS Brimmer, Jamaal UNLV 13
SS Carter, Jerome Florida State 13
RB Harris, Kay-Jay West Virginia 12
RB Haynes, Alex Central Florida 12
TE Everett, Kevin Miami (FL) 12
WR Frederick, Charles Washington 12
WR Rector, Jamaica Northwest Missouri State 12
WR Hill, Efrem Samford 12
WR Manus, Tommy Morgan State 12
OT Brown, Jammal Oklahoma 12
P/KR Frederick, Charles Washington 12
P/KR Rector, Jamaica Northwest Missouri State 12
DT Burt, Larry Miami (OH) 12
DT Means, Albert Memphis 12
ILB Thurman, Odell* Georgia 12
CB Webster, Corey LSU 12
CB Hayden, Kelvin Illinois 12
FB Joseph, Keith Texas AM 11
RB Morency, Vernand* Oklahoma State 11
RB Reyes, Walter Syracuse 11
WR Bradley, Mark Oklahoma 11
P/KR Bradley, Mark Oklahoma 11
DE Davis, Chauncey Florida State 11
WR Parrish, Roscoe* Miami (FL) 10
WR Gilmore, Howard Norfolk State 10
P/KR Parrish, Roscoe* Miami (FL) 10
P/KR Gilmore, Howard Norfolk State 10
CB Daniels, Travis LSU 10
WR Henry, Chris* West Virginia 9
DE Moore, Eric Florida State 9
DE Montgomery, Mike Texas AM 9
DT Patterson, Mike Southern Cal 9
CB Reid, Lamont North Carolina St 9
CB Williams, Cedrick Kansas State 8
RB Gore, Frank* Miami (FL) 6