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Saban coached the Patriots before the Bills Lou Saban Coaching Record Season Team Regular Season Post Season Record Finish Record Finish 1960 Boston Patriots 5-9 4th -- AFL East -- 1961 Boston Patriots 2-3 2nd -- AFL East -- 1962 Buffalo Bills 7-6-1 3rd -- AFL East -- 1963 Buffalo Bills 7-6-1 2nd -- AFL East 0-1 Lost Divisional Playoffs 1964 Buffalo Bills 12-2 1st -- AFL East 1-0 Won League Championship 1965 Buffalo Bills 10-3-1 1st -- AFL East 1-0 Won League Championship 1967 Denver Broncos 3-11 4th -- AFL West -- 1968 Denver Broncos 5-9 4th -- AFL West -- 1969 Denver Broncos 5-8-1 4th -- AFL West -- 1970 Denver Broncos 5-8-1 4th -- AFC West -- 1971 Denver Broncos 2-6-1 4th -- AFC West -- 1972 Buffalo Bills 4-9-1 4th -- AFC East -- 1973 Buffalo Bills 9-5 2nd -- AFC East -- 1974 Buffalo Bills 9-5 2nd -- AFC East 0-1 Lost Divisional Playoffs 1975 Buffalo Bills 8-6 3rd -- AFC East -- 1976 Buffalo Bills 2-3 5th -- AFC East -- Career 95-99-7 2-2

Ralph calls Marv "A fine young man"

Only if he serves it in Attica

Then you're probably pretty young. I've watched this team for a long time and this is hardly the most frustrating year I've ever watched. Ask the people who watched in the late 60s, mid 70s, & mid 80s and you'll hear horror stories a lot worse than this season. I don't even know where to begin, but at least no top draft choices have signed with the CFL nor has any player signed with a new football league.

I heard it too, guy was named Nick so I'm pretty sure it was our own Nick in England.

Before the game started, I wrote in the snow in front of our seats "Fire Mularkey". As the game & snow went on it wore out. I fixed it late in the 3rd or early in the 4th and within a couple of minutes stadium people were there. I had to rub the words out of the sign before they left. I thought I was in danger of being thrown out if I didn't erase it. After the game Petrino called "The Coach" & told him about it.

If TD ends up in St. Louis, he can take Jerry Gray with him. ...and Jerry can take Mularkey with him-as his offensive coordinator. Within 2 years the Rams will be the latest NFL laughingstock.

The last two GMs that were fired got theit walking papers during the season. Polian agreed to stay until the end of the season***. Butler or Ralph didn't make the same deal. In another post Rockpile asked where was TD and why Ralph came in from Detroit to handle the situation. Well, if TD is there in title only, having agreed to atay until the end of the season, it would answer his question. ***-When I was flying back from Super Bowl XXVII, I called my friend in Depew. a teacher at St. Francis, where Polians kids went to high school. He gave me the scoop, a few days before the official announcement. Polian had been fired in mid season, but agreed to stay with the team through the Super Bowl. The fact that he told me on Tuesday that Polian was fired and the team didn't announce it until a few days later leads me to conclude the part about Polian being fired mid season is accurate.

I agree, MM & TD are gone. Reading between the lines, I'll guess what Ralph said to Eric, poetic license meter on high: "The coach wants to suspend you for the rest of the season. I had to come here and settle this because even though I know he's wrong, I can't publicly side with a head coach over a player. Eric, son, I have to have some credibilty when I hire a new coach next January, so take the one game suspension. If the next coach feels you're important to his offensive schemes, I hope you'd consider taking a pay cut and staying here, because you mean a lot more to me than those two idiots I currently have in charge, who are embarrassing both of us and running my team into the ground. Finally Eric, I'd like you to have these 2 pies my wife baked you. Now the one on the left, cut it and enjoy, it tastes great. The other pie, be careful how you cut it, it may not be too tasty, but when you open it up, you'll feel like $93,000-if you know what I mean (wink, wink)."

Lost control in his 2nd season so that we wouldn't have to wait any longer to fire him, paving the way for Ralph to realize that he needs a big time coach instead of Donahoe's experiments. In 2006 the Bills hired xxxxxxxxxxx, which started the Bills dynasty of the 21st century. If Mularkey had just been adequate, he never would have been fired after just 2 seasons of a 5 year contract and the Bills would have continued to wallow in mediocrity. Mularkey being so bad is his greatest accomplishment for this franchise.

Tom is 0-2 so far for coaches, but if you step back and think about it, I don't think there's any chance that Mularkey will be fired. Why? Because we have a young QB who has taken a while to develop in this offense, and asking him to start over with a new offense will take us back to Losman in a rookie state with a little bit more game savvy. I don't think Ralph wants to start over. I think he wants people to stand up and be counted. Mularkey will be fired because he has lost the team and no coach can survive that. If Ralph has some stones, he'll fire Donahoe & Mularkey today. I know that won't happen, but unless Mularkey proves that he can get along with the players he's gone. Even Willis is calling this chaos. Ralph will not stand for this more than 4 more weeks.

Signs won't work! They will just take them away at the gate, or if you sneak them in, they'll take them from you in the stands. The only thing that will work is getting the fans to verbally abuse TD & MM in unison. Let's get it done Sunday!

The Moulds episode is just one in what continues to be a disrespect by management of guys who toiled for years in a Bills uniform. In recent years we've see: Eric Moulds' career end in a stupid conflict, Sam Adams playing his last season under a cloud of he said-he said between Sam's agent & Mularkey, Pat Williams leaving angry, Ruben Brown not being permitted to finish his season because mgt didn't want him here on his last game here, Steve Christie being put on IR then waived in TD's 1st season, and going back a few years-the release of Bruce Smith, Andre Reed and Thurman Thomas on the same day. I could go on with the history of coaches like Wade being fired, not even informed that his family's health insurance was cancelled and Ralph not willing to pay him, Chuck Knox leaving here for Seattle because of Ralph's stinginess, Lou Saban not on the wall and John Rauch being thrown under the bus by Ralph, forcing his resignation. The bottom line is this stuff has always happened under Ralph's direction. I could even go back to Cookie Gilchrist.

That's why I'm advocation verbal abuse. If we can get at least half the stadium calling for TD to be fired in unison, they can't do a thing.

I hope Ralph puts MM in the same position he put John Rauch in.

Recently, some legislator had Petrino's boss on the phone and was yelling at him & all he could do was listen, so the answer is yes.

Especially around here (it was an inside joke-Petrino's boss is named Aiken & I figured only he would understand it & the rest of you would be kind of perplexed)

I saw Carson's last game as Cleveland's head coach. I went on a Sunday/MNF trip that started in Cleveland where the Bills destroyed the Browns in their own stadium & by the time I got to Indianapolis for the Giants/Colts MNF game, Carson was fired.

Fire Mularkey and give him Aiken's job.

Or Not only are MM/TD detrimental to the team and Moulds, but they are detrimental to the fans that support the team as a result.

Same goes for Mike "Bullough" Mularkey. The young guys got rid of Hank too, before Marv took over after the loss in Tampa.

FFS: I hope you have to start pondering your next name in January.

Bring back Marvin Lewis for another interview.

If the Bills are losing Sunday , lets really send a message to Ralph. Home side chants "Fire Mularkey" Road side chants "Fire Donahoe" Mirror it after the "Tastes Great" "Less Filling" chants in other stadiums.

How about Jim Bates for Head Coach. He did a good job in Miami last year and has head coaching experience from his USFL days. If Ralph doesn't want to break the bank, but doesn't want to risk another rookie coach failure, Bates is the man.