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A couple of comments on this thread: St. Louis didn't want to give Haslett the job during the season, they wanted to give him the job if the Rams won 6 games & the NFL ruled they couldn't put that in his contract because of the Rooney rule. He didn't win 6 games. Kay Stephenson hired Jauron, not Hank Bullough. Jauron was gone after the 1985 season, Bullough didn't keep him around for 1986.

Why draft a QB at pick 32 when Edwards just won the Super Bowl in Miami?

Every team with a new coaching staff should struggle under the Beckles doctrine. Tell that to the Dolphins, Falcons & Ravens. Having multiple coaches must really hurt because under that moronic theory, rookies should all struggle with the change from college to the pros. So, imagine how tough things are for Joe Flacco-he went to 2 different colleges & then had to play for yet another staff with the Ravens-he's ruined for life . The fact that Beckles thinks Wyche was such a bad coach & was never tutored by Wyche to play QB, Wyche's area of expertise, means squat.

Trent's failures this year were most likely injury related, it had nothing to do with JP's failures, which are from a lack of football related mental abilities to process information on the field fast enough for the NFL game. The coaching wasn't horrible, it was average.

All you people who blame poor coaching for JP's failure's are psychos-there's no nice way to put it! He had Sam Wyche, one of the great offensive minds tudoring him his 1st two years. Aside from Wyche, the head coach, Mike Mularkey went to Atlanta & did quite well with Matt Ryan. Fairchild, Schonert & Van Pelt are nowhere near as bad when it comes to QB development as you psychos make them out to be. Just look at the guys you have skewered in the past: Henning, Gilbride, Wyche & Mularkey-all have succeeded with other QBs & offenses before & except for Wyche, after their Bills stints. Maybe it's the Bills talent evaluators & not the coaches you should be blaming. They're the ones year after year, who fail to get us enough quality players. JP is just an example of their failures. Face it-you could resurrect the greatest QB coach of all time & the guy would have to just throw up his hands in disgust at the prospect of turning JP into a real QB. Quit blaming the coaches & face reality-JP was, is & always will be an NFL bust. He just isn't good enough-and no matter what coaching he receives in the future, his future is best served out of the NFL.

Who is Demitrious Butler? I know I saw nothing of him, never even heard of the guy. Come to think of it he was more of a ghost than Demetrius Bell, who we at least got to see in pre-season.

They are not going to allow JP to go back & play high school football. You have a serious man crush on JP, because anyone who isn't blinded by love and has seen him play knows he sucks. A smart coach who plays to JP's strengths knows his biggest strength is being on the bench and to never let him on the field.

He hasn't had 10 or 11 s in a game yet, so why did you say another? That's almost impossible to do unless your coach is Belichick. I guess you think one of our opponents will have a really bad defense.

Here's an article on 10. Also I saw an interview with John Wooden when he was about 95 & still sharp as ever. http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/for...91609/index.htm Working Past 90 Forget early retirement. These ten men and women found jobs they loved--and never quit. By Text By Roy Hoffman November 13, 2000 (FORTUNE Magazine) – Open a door at an American workplace today and you may find one of them: the old-old, defying life's clock. In a culture that all too often extols young workers at the expense of seasoned elders, these men and women--in their 90s, vibrant, their minds creatively engaged--give the lie to the notion that only youth matters. From Woodie Sommers, a 90-year-old barber in Sacramento, to Eleanor Lambert, a 97-year-old fashion publicist in New York City, these workers find, in their daily toil, more energy than enervation. "I get tired when I don't work," says composer Elliott Carter, who is writing a cello concerto at 91. "If your mind is clear and your body is healthy, a man can work whatever his age," adds 94-year-old Rev. William Lee Freeman, who presides over 17 African Methodist Episcopal churches in New York. Good health is essential, of course--a gift that none of these nonagenarians, having outlived friends and loved ones, take for granted. But many have known physical setbacks and landed on their feet. Like Hazel Howard, 91, who was back fixing fries at a McDonald's in Lynn, Mass., six weeks after breaking her hip. To linger awhile with these men and women is to hear other themes emerge: the impact of the Depression on their sense of economy; the importance of family relationships to sustain them. Five of the men have wives still living--308 years of ongoing marriage among them. Although mortality looms, these people seem to deflect brooding by putting on their hats and picking up their briefcases. "I refuse to let myself think about it," says gynecologist Walter Watson, 90, pacing hospital corridors at an hour of the morning when men a third his age are jump-starting themselves with their first cup of coffee. Humor buoys them too. "Who would want to be 92?" sighs 91-year-old Mobile, Ala., attorney Charles Hoffman to his son--this writer--as he makes his way to court. "A man who's 91." While revealing no secret for staying vital into their 90s, they concur on the mental sustenance provided by active employment. Work enables them to be creative in subtle ways (Sommers sees in each head of hair a barbering challenge) or in publicly visible ones (94-year-old architect Philip Johnson still marks metropolitan skylines with his buildings). With life expectancy in the U.S. having risen from 47 years in 1900 to 77 years in 1998, and with the proportion of senior citizens in the work force now at 12%, these nonagenarians may well signal one dynamic of the workplace to come. Having been born in the era of trains and the telegraph, they find themselves, in an era of space flight and cyberspace, in a kind of vanguard, a cutting-edge designation that makes several of them chuckle with appreciation for how what is old becomes new. They might even be called "living treasures" if that term didn't suggest icons that stay put. They're too busy for that.

Gave JP enough rope to hang himself.

A lot more than you think. Your statement shows ignorance. Because my parents lived well into their 80s, I got to know more people 80 & older than you, obviously, have ever seen. A lot of them still live in their own homes & know more than you ever will. Grow up!

What part of Dick Jauron & his assistants have been retained don't you understand? This is as useful as saying : What are we going to do with the 1st pick in the NFL draft? We are not hiring a new offensive coordinator & we don't have the #1 pick in the draft.

That's BS. As I've stated before my parents lived to 86 & 87 and had plenty of mental capacity at the time of their deaths. My mother's sister is 95 with plenty of mental capacity. I'll put Marv Levy, at 83 against just about anybody on this board in a debate & Marv would win. You said Ralph is senile-he's not. Quit being an ageist who probably has never known anyone in their 80s & 90s or knew one or two who were diminished and has decided everyone their age is diminished. Also, everyone is different. Unless you have medically evaluated Ralph at age 50 & age 90, you have no basis to declare him mentally diminished. The really SAD fact is you don't know spit about Ralph's mental capacity, yet you have no problem declaring him senile. When Ralph speaks in public there is nothing to indicate he has anything aproaching senility. He walks & talks a little slower, but once again, there is nothing to indicate anything near senility. Ralph has, what to some, is a weird sense of humor. He's always done things like laugh out of frustration at the team like he did after the Toronto game. I've been listening to the guy since he was my current age & the content of his words haven't changed very much. It's one thing to not like what he does, it's quite another to question his mental capacity when you don't agree with him. You really need to meet some older people with sound minds, it would be a good lesson for you.

You have nothing to back up your statements about Ralph. Are you his f'n doctor? I am so sick of the Ralph is senile posts. He is not senile. If you don't undrestand this then, YOU are the one with the mental problem, not Ralph. Ralph has been a cheap bastard his whole life. Earlier he was a middle aged cheap bastard. Now he is an old cheap bastard. It has nothing to do with his mental capacities, which put against the "Ralph is senile" posters are superior to every one of them.

When Belichick was fired by the BALTIMORE RAVENS the Cleveland press & Bernie Kosar were not responsible. If you blame his firing on them, then you have to say they ran the Browns out of Cleveland because the move to Baltimore was announced long before Belichick's firing, and Kosar was long gone from the Browns. The Ravens wanted to have a coach with Colts ties & hired Marchibroda after the Browns collapsed in the season where they were lame ducks in Cleveland.

Here's the most important stat to compare: 1988 Bills 12-4 & made it to the AFC Championship game. 2008 Bills 7-9, 2-8 in last 10 games-only way to get to AFC Championship game is with a ticket.

It doesn't matter who the Jets bring in as head coach-the guy will have Brett Ratliff as his best QB. Next year is either a total Jet rebuild or another year of more Favre screwups. Either way, their coach is in for a pretty rough year. We'll be better than the Jets-with Cowher, Shannahan or any other guy.

Ralph has fired 3 coaches in season: Joe Collier (1968-after 2 games), Kay Stephenson (1985-after 4 games) & Hank Bullough (1986-after 9 games). In addition, Lou Saban quit 2 days before game 6 of the 1976 season. So there have been 4 in-season coaching changes. The main reason that there have been no in-season coaching changes since 1986 is that circumstances have not warranted any. Marv Levy lasted until 1997, so that's 11 years right there; Wade Phillips had the team in playoff contention every year; Gregg Williams started off badly, but nobody would fire a 1st year coach that soon & the rest of his time was mediocre-the year he was fired. the team was 4-4 at midseason; Mike Mularkey was actually asked back for a 3rd season at one point, so firing him in the middle of 5-11, when he was 3-3 after 6 games wasn't considered (the Bills finished the same 2-8 in 2005 as 2008). There's enough data to indicate that if the team gets off to a rough start, Dick Jauron is gone in-season. Circumstances have not been there for a in-season coaching change since 1986. I doubt there will be an in-season firing next year for one simple reason-the Bills won't be horrible like the years there have been in-season coaching changes. There is too much talent on this team to be that bad. We may be mediocre under Jauron, but we haven't reached bad yet. Unless key players get hurt early in the season, our record will always be around .500 with Jauron as coach. A good coach could elevate us to the above .600+ range & a bad coach could bring us down to the .300+ range, but Jauron has proven to be a mediocre, .437 coach. Now all the 2-14 gloom & doom people are just showing frustration & are being totally unrealistic. There's no evidence we're close to 2-14 heading into next season. The team has underachieved to 7-9 the last 3 seasons with Jauron. They won't be much worse next year. Actually, they'll probably be better, it's just that with the schedule, another 7-9 season is more likely. 5-6 wins are almost a certainty, so the rest depends on the progression & regression of the Bills & their opponents-something at this point is virtually impossible to project.

It was actually Josh McCown that the Dolphins were going to start the season with at QB. They probably would have switched to Henne during the season if McCown didn't produce. Beck was and is considered a nonentity in Miami.

The only decade in Bills history that at some point we weren't a laughingstock was the 1990s. Ralph was hated at various times in the 60s, 70s, 80s & 2000s. The only differences are Ralph is older & the team hasn't reached anything like the depths that the 1968, 1971, 1976-7 and 1984-5 teams did. The worst we've been this decade is 2001's 3-13 and we've been mediocre ever since.

You're the one telling others not to renew because the team isn't winning. That's the definition of a fair weather fan, you moron.

Then with our schedule, we'll be able to get a real good one in the draft since if Edwards bombs, we're 2-14.

I know this isn't much help after hearing Jauron is back for 2009, but Ralph did the same stuff over 20 years ago. When the Bills went 2-14 in 1984, Ralph kept Kay Stephenson & fired him during the 1985 season. When the Bills finished 2-14 in 1985 & it was obvious that new coach Hank Bullough was in way over his head, Ralph kept him for 1986 & fired him in the 1986 season. When he hired Marv Levy, a lot of the pieces were already in place for the upcoming championship runs. I think Dick Jauron is on a very short leash. Ralph sees a lot of head coaching vacancies elsewhere and really doesn't want to compete against all these other teams for a new head coach right now. He knows he doesn't have much to offer, since the Bills have a really tough schedule next year and need to upgrade talent in order to get any decent coach to come to Buffalo. So, here's what I see happening: Ralph kept Jauron. He keeps upgrading the talent this offseason & has a mildly competitive team, albeit one with a real tough schedule. If Jauron is something like 1-6, he fires him, makes a guy like April interim coach & gives him a tryout. If the team suddenly improves, April is kept for 2010. If Jauron doesn't bomb in the first half of 2009, he stays. So now say he gets us to 6-10, 7-9, or 8-8, Ralph says it's not good enough and fires him at the end of 2009 and looks for a real coach in 2010 when there aren't all these openings on other teams. I still think this team is heading in the right direction, it's just going to take a little longer. Now 2009 might be a sacrifice season & I know a lot of you don't accept that, but a cold hard look at the schedule makes success in 2009 difficult no matter who the coach is. Since we're likely bringing in a new guy in 2010, he will need to know the answer to several questions including if Trent Edwards is the answer. Jauron is being sacrificed in order to answer the questions, at least the new guy will know how much he needs to bring this team up to snuff. If Edwards is the answer (and I believe he is), the new guy is in a similar position that Levy was in with a young Kelly in 1986. If Edwards isn't the answer then at least the new guy will know he needs to upgrade at QB immediately when he comes in and can do what Jauron can't do in 2009. I'm not going to panic, cancel my tickets or go picketing the stadium. If Dick pulls off a miracle & does well next year, meaning deep into the playoffs, he stays, otherwise we all get our wish for him to go by this time next year. It's only one year at most folks, so let's all chill out a little today.

So what you're saying is, you're from a family of fair weather fans who will only support a Super Bowl team. Screw your advice not to renew.

The Bills had the wind at their backs. A throw would not have been against the wind. It was in my end zone-I'm positive on this one.