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In a couple of weeks the only supporters Brohm will have left are his relatives. The guy brings nothing to the table that is any better than what we have. You'll see. If you really want to jump on someone's bandwagon, it might as well be Levi Brown's, because he's got a lot more "upside" than Brohm. It's not just the Atlanta game, it's the reports out of camp that Brohm has shown realtively poor arm strength and is weak on accuracy and the fact that he is floating between 2nd & 4th on the depth chart, with #3 already locked up by Brown. All the Brohm fantasies will come to a screeching halt after he plays in 1 or 2 exhibition games & you see why GB cut him last summer. He doesn't belong in the NFL & in 2 weeks it will be quite evident. What I don't understand is why the Brohm fans think the Bills can do something no other NFL team has done in the modern era-get something out of a high round QB who gets cut for reasons other than the salary cap. Look it up, the guys who other teams steal are late round under the radar players. You don't steal 2nd round QB busts and get production out of them. Remember you're taking about a John Guy acquisition. It's as if you bought a lottery ticket & think you'll be a millionaire tomorrow-It isn't happening!

How? Who is out there to acquire? I've seen some posts today that we can trade Lynch for a tackle-Ha! They can't trade 2 strike Lynch for anything other than a conditional pick. Even worse Lynch is injured now & nobody will give up much for an injured RB who is one more "mistake" from a long suspension.

Worse if you can imagine that. Trent looked like a guy who does not belong on an NFL playing field. Mitch Williams & Charlie Sheen may need to hand over the nickname "Wild Thing" to Fitzpatrick if he plays like tonight in the future. Levi Brown is green as a gourd. Brohm will have an opportunity to get himself into the hunt on Thursday. By design, tonight he was the Invisible Man. The only way things can get worse is if all the guys going for 1 & 2 get injured & Levi Brown ends up starting, with Jeff George brough in as his backup.

As someone brought up a few months ago, you also have to look at a player's floor. Brohm has a much bigger floor, or downside potential than Edwards or Fitzpatrick. I can honestly say from what I saw in Brohm's floor game last year (3 points) that he has a lot more "DOWNSIDE" than any other QB on the roster. GB didn't need to see any more of Brohm when they cut him last September & dared the league to claim him before he joined their PS. If we're screwed with the other two guys, we could be screwed, tattooed, and just plain booed with Brohm out there if he lives down to his potential. With Brohm there's at least a 50-50 chance that he could be A LOT worse than Edwards or Fitzpatrick-just look at his TD-INT ratio when he's played vs NFL competition, just look at that Atlanta game without falling back on the excuse that "He was too new to the system to be effective" In contrast, Fitzpatrick came into a game cold for the 1st time in his rookie year & lit it up. Now he may have been in the Rams' sytem longer than Brohm was with the Bills, but he was a friggin' rookie & he lit it up! Edwards has had games where he lit it up as well. Brohm has not done a thing in the NFL but get his @ss cut. QBs get cut every year with less of an opportunity than the Bills have given Brohm and nobody ever accuses the team of not giving the guy a fair chance. Virtually every one of these types are never heard from again. I've used the Gary Marangi analogy to Brohm a lot-once we knew what we had in Marangi, he was out of the league. Brohm is a lot closer to Marangi than he is to Kurt Warner. Actually I agree with one thing-Brohm has a chance of getting better, because it's hard to imagine him being able to get any worse than that 3 point Atlanta game, which no matter what excuse you try to come up, with was a disaster. Brohm will be a lot better off after the Bills cut him & he has time to line up a high school coaching job for 2011. That's where his true potential & future is-some high school in Kentucky.

If the Bills QBs keep playing as poorly as tonight, not only will Thigpen be claimed off waivers, but the second he is, he will be named our opening day starter.

The good news is the team is still in Buffalo. You're not the only one who slept through the game, a lot of guys wearing Bills uniforms slept through the game as well.

You might want to wait until after Thursday's game before saying you want to see Brohm starting. Gailey has seen him every day, a lot more than anyone here has & right now Brohm has show Gailey he's not starting material. Brohm will either be #2 behind Fitzpatrick or off this team when the regular season starts. The only positive thing Brohm can bring to the table as our starter is we'd be a virtual lock for the top pick if Brohm starts. Now I may want to reserve judgement until Thursday, but the most likely thing that will happen is Brohm shows he's worse than Edwards or Fitzpatrick & takes his rightful place alongside Gary Marangi as the peoples choice-Until he was given an opportunity to play his way off the team-and did.

No TO, Schobel, Wendling on STs, no Bobby April, incorporating a new D, incorporating a new O, Edwards continuing downhill slide. Half the wins last year were after the coaching change and there is no concrete evidence Gailey is better than Fewell. This team, record-wise could be A LOT worse than last year. Nobody is going to give us a win like Indy did last year, that's one fewer win right there. 6 wins with this team and Ralph should give Gailey a lifetime contract, meaning Gailey's lifetime, not Ralph's.

The Bills did welcome the Redskins coach back to the NFL

You might need to adjust the TDs per minute played by DEFENSIVE TDs per minute played if they start throwing INTs. Based on his past preseason games you better have the D TD meter running when Brohm is in there.

You know what makes me sad? Those Bills players. Maybe we can chug over to Namby Pamby Land where maybe we can find some self confidence for them, those jackwagons!

Ryan Fitzpatrick signed in February 2009. It was something like the 1st day of free agency that he was permitted to sign. What are you talking about?

Just because you say Fitzpatrick is horrible, doesn't make him horrible. The truth is we were able to win games with him in there last year. He has intangibles like intelligence & leadership that you're totally ignoring. The coaches who see him every day and are around him about 12/6 know a lot more than anyone here. He is exactly what every team wants in their second string QB-an intelligent player who can win you games when your 1st stringer is out. He may not look pretty to you out there, but he gets the job done. If he was waived, he would be with another team within 24 hours.

There's no way we're going into the season with 2 QBs, one who has never done anything in the NFL & a 3rd QB on the practice squad. Obviously the OP has a strong anti-Fitzpatrick bias that has tainted any logical conclusion as to the QBs we will keep. Fitzpatrick is a virtual lock to make the team. Gailey is not going into the season without a veteran backup as the 2nd stringer, especially with Edwards' injury history. The scenario as posted would put Brohm as #1 & Levi Brown elevated from the PS as #2 if Edwards went down. That's ridiculous. Gailey would never put himself in the position of the totally unproven Brohm being backed up by the 7th round rookie. He has to be aware that Edwards is odds on to get injured at some point. More logical scenarios: Edwards, Fitzpatrick, Brohm or Brown with Brown on the PS if it's Brohm & Brohm in the UFL if it's Brown. Say Edwards gets hurt in preseason: Then it would be Fitzpatrick or Brohm with the loser as #2, Brown #3. I cannot think of 1 scenario that doesn't have Fitzpatrick 1 or 2, unless he gets a serious injury in preseason. Sorry, but anyone who thinks Fitzpatrick is gone who doesn't plan on him being replaced with a veteran backup doesn't understand how NFL rosters are put together. You have your starter. If he's fully entrenched and has shown durability, then you can go with one backup, who can be an unproven guy. Otherwise you have 2 backups. In an unsettled situation as the Bills have, you always keep 3 QBs. One of them, either the starter or #2 is a veteran. If Fitzpatrick goes, a QB with NFL starting experience, like Thigpen will replace him. Odds: slim & none that Fitzpatrick isn't there on opening day.

Yesterday I get home & I want to hear them talking about the Bills & the Schobel release, but instead they spent forever talking about Kelly Clarkson. Now I like Kelly Clarkson, but I didn't tune in to listen to their opinions of her while there is Bills camp. The only Kelly they should be allowed to talk about in PM drive time is Jim Kelly! I had to turn it off.

How is winning 5 games instead of 3 games better for a team? Now obviously, if you're talking 10 wins vs 3, it's a totally different situation. You'll never convince me that if we're headed for a 4-5 win season & a win or 2 less gives us a shot at a franchise QB, which it appears this year's draft will, that it's better to win 2 more totally meaningless games when you can turn your entire franchise around if you lose those 2 games. Now I'm talking strictly from a fan's point of view, of course I expect the team to try to win every game. But if we're headed into that last game against the Jets with a loss guaranteeing us the #1 pick, I'm rooting for the team to lose to the Jets in the last game this year, get the franchise QB & kick some Jet @ss when it means something many times over for the next decade. PS: I totally agree with your blasting the OP for implying Ralph is cheap. If we get the chance the Bills will pay a franchise QB megabucks.

But he has so much more "upside" than Fitzpatrick. The Bills must bring him in to compete.

Fitzpatrick is 2nd stringer, Brown, the 3rd stringer has upside. Fitzpatrick is not terrible, he was the QB in 5 of the 6 wins last year. Brohm is going to get cut. It's time for all the people with delusions that we could get a high profile guy off a practice squad that the whole league just forgot about until the brilliant front office of Guy & Brandon swooped in & stole him to wake up. You steal low profile guys off practice squads, not 2nd round busts. The best professional talent evaluators passed on Brohm & now all the Brohm fans are finding out why. They excused the debacle in Atlanta because "He was new to the Bills & not ready." Now they & their boy are out of excuses.

BB=BUST IN GB, BUST IN BUFFALO, BUST IN NFL

Of all the Brohm excuses, this one has to be the dumbest. Unless he's mentally ill, no QB would tank it & try to get himself cut in order to get on a practice squad & bide his time until the Bills could rescue him & he can become a star. Here's how a normal player handles the situation: he works his butt off, plays lights out in preseason whenever he gets the shot, gets traded to a team "desperate" enough to trade for him & signs a big $ contract. Thats what Matt Schaub, Matt Hasselbeck & even Rob Johnson did. Even Charlie Whitehurst got a good amount of $ after being traded from SD to Seattle. What you're saying is Brohm is so crazy that he immediately, as an unproven rookie, decided to tank his career and lose millions of dollars just because he didn't like the situation in GB. That's ridiculous. Now I may think Brohm has no talent to ever be a good starting QB in the NFL, but I do not think he is crazy. Your scenario is one of someone who is crazy.

There is no salary cap this season, therefore if you get rid of a player with an amortized signing bonus in 2010 there are no consequences.

Jauron wasn't here. Brohm was signed after Jauron was fired.

I'm basing it on the fact that no QB drafted as high as Brohm has ever been waived without ever playing like he was, cleared waivers, and then was brought in by another team and did anything in the NFL. Players drafted as highly as Brohm who get waived so soon & don't get immediately picked up are so flawed that there is a reason that no team even put in a waiver claim on him. Teams have waived undrafted & late round QBs at the same stages of their careers & teams have put waiver claims in on them. The Packers are not a poorly run stupid team-they saw nothing in him last September that they wanted to keep-they preferred the 53rd man over him. 31 other GMs yawned when Brohm went on waivers. You're talking about guys like Polian & Newsome among other top executives. They all have pro scouts & the college scouting reports and keep tabs on all players with as high a profile as Brohm had-they unanimously said NO to getting Brohm for free. The professionals have a lot more data on these players than you, I, or any other Bills fan on this board. Also-don't throw that GB wanted to match the Bills contract crap that the Brohm ball boys love to say. The only reason they tried to match was because it was November & he knew the system-nothing more than trying to keep a cheap insurance policy. If they were as interested in him as the ball boys say, they would have tried to keep him by exceeding the Bills offer-they didn't. There are a lot of QBs who have played next to no regular season games-why not bring every QB who gets cut in here-you could claim the same thing about him as you are Brohm. Years ago Bills fans loved Gary Marangi for the same reason. Once Marangi played, he was out of the league. No matter how you spin it, Brohm was dreadful in his one start, one & done for me. Just because you don't like what you see in Edwards & Fitzpatrick, it doesn't make Brohm any better. He's a bust & he'll always be one-he would be happy to match Jeff's career.

That's like being the tallest midget. By the way, Levitre was the best lineman last year. Wood might have been if he played all season, definitely tons better than Incognito.

Goodell should immediately convict USC for tampering & take away their 1st round pick in next year's NFL draft! Of course it's a lame lawsuit-reading between the lines, they're doing it to appease the anger of the college fans in Tennessee, hoping to gain points with them. Let's remember who owns the Titans-the douchbag who moved them out of Houston & was giving the Bills the bird last season & got fined for that idiotic behavior.