Albany,n.y.

Again, it wasn't just the Atlanta game. (Why do you think I bolded the entire part of the sentence?) I didn't see him do anything Trent Edwards didn't do this preseason. I did see Edwards do something Brohm didn't -produce TDs. It's time for Brohm to stop looking pretty to his fans & actually put some points,other than a FG here and a FG there, on the board-something in PRESEASON he has never done. I watched him play in 4 games, didn't even look at the stats & have not seen much out of the guy. If I'm wrong & he plays lights out I'll gladly admit the error of my ways. I doubt I'm wrong. Brohm is similar to a former Bill, Gary Marangi. For years we'd hear the chant "put in Maragi" whenever Ferguson had a rough moment. Eventually they put Marangi in when Fergy got hurt and he was out of the league the next season. The guy who isn't playing always looks good when the starter isn't playing well, but most of the time the coach's decision on whom to play is proven correct. Brohm has had 3 coaches who didn't think he was good enough to start. Eventually Gailey will give him his shot at being the next Marangi because he will be out of options when we're something like 1-10 or 2-10.

Here's the full statement you quoted, bolding added: From what I've seen of Brohm on the field, last season's dreadful game vs Atlanta & 3 preseason games, I just don't see any reason to expect him to suddenly start throwing TDs. I expect a guy to get be able to get a TD drive some time in his career. So far Brohm in 3 preseasons & a real game has none. I'm not a stat boy when it comes to QBs, but a guy has to do more than look the part, he has to produce TDs. As far as the Atlanta game I expected 2 things-1)Generating more than 3 points. 2)Play well enough to peak Fewell's curiosity enough to start him again the following week. Instead, Fewell who was trying to win in hopes of keeping his job, ran right back to Fitzpatrick to start the Indy game rather than give Brohm another chance of showing something in an otherwise meaningless game. The fact that Fewell didn't think he was a viable option against Indy speaks volumes into what a guy who is actually in the NFL thought of his Atlanta performance.

I'd add must be a student of the game & a film junkie. That's one thing that separates the Mannings, Bradys etc from the rest of today's group.

You've got my premise correct, but I don't hate Brohm. I don't like to hope for something that statistically, has a virtual zero percent chance of success. There's a big difference between being a fan & hoping for something that has a decent chance of working & living in a dream world. The fans who thought we were a playoff contender before the season started weren't better fans than those of us who saw the team for what it is. I'd love to see Brohm start some games, light it up & become the QB some think he is. I'd also like to see the Bills 3-0 at this point & a 10 point favorite this weekend. I try to be optimistic, but sometimes reality can dim that optimism. From what I've seen of Brohm on the field, last season's dreadful game vs Atlanta & 3 preseason games, I just don't see any reason to expect him to suddenly start throwing TDs. Then every coach who ever cut a QB without seeing him as a legitimate starter is a moron. That makes 32 current NFL coaching morons.

You're right, the only evidence will be when he gets on the field. However, teams make decisions all the time about guys who have had a lot less playing time than Brohm has had in preseason & his one regular season game and haven't made a mistake on a high profile QB yet. So, yes in a court of law, a prosecutor would have no case in "The trial of Brian Brohm's NFL career". But there's enough of a statistical sample for a statitician to conclude that the statistical chance of Brohm being a successful NFL QB, based on the success of prior NFL QBs waived, is close to zero percent.

Brohm was cut in September 2009, went through waivers unclaimed. Bell was cut in September 2010, went through waivers unclaimed. You don't know the rules. All practice squad members unless they were signed off the street, were waived & went unclaimed. Know what you're talking about before you post something this foolish. Get YOUR crap correct!

I don't know how things are set up in Houston, but it would be impossible to do this at Ralph Wilson Stadium. Thousands of people park in private lots & walk to the stadium. They could never stop people from parking elsewhere & then walking to their tailgate of choice. There are too many ways to enter the stadium parking lots. They'd have to build a lot of fencing & start checking pedestrian tickets at pedestrian gates to the lots.

Locker didn't come out because the NFL didn't even rate him as going in the 1st round. Your premise that someone has to be crazy to want to go another year with Fitz & Brohm is 100% correct, you didn't need to add fiction to support it.

No QB drafted as high as Brohm, in the modern NFL history has ever been cut this early or even a little later in his career with no playing time, sailed through waivers & amounted to anything. In fact, just about QB drafted early, even guys with starts on their resumes, who has been let go by his original drafting team has busted out of the NFL without ever being a quality starter. Since guys drafted this high are so well scrutinized before & after they get to the NFL, getting waived that soon, or even later, is a career death sentence. The only QB who I've seen ever to come back from getting released early was Kerry Collins, who had a drinking problem at the time of his release-and his resume already included getting his team to the conference championship game in his 2nd year in the league. So, why would anyone who knows the history of failed QBs ever expect Brohm to basically be the exception-because Brandon & Guy were such geniuses in signing him?

The FG gave the Bills the lead. If they don't make it they go into the locker room behind, Gailey wanted to be ahead at halftime and build on it. Unfortunately our team couldn't stop the Patriots with less than half a minute on the clock. At halftime some guys were in the bathroom, obviously having left the stands after the Bills' FG. They thought the Bills were ahead and one Bills fan, who was verbally sparring with a Patriots fan asked "What's the score" assuming he had the upper hand. Funniest thing I've seen at an opposing stadium in quite a while.

If you read the comments: Luke sounds just like one of the Brohm fans in Buffalo. New QB will thrive in new setting even though all evidence says otherwise.

During the darker periods of the 70s & 80s you had 50-60,000 empty seats at Rich Stadium by the end of the season. In 1985, the second season of back to back 2-14 records, with the exception being the Miami game, the final 4 of 5 games had crowds in the 20 thousands. You'll never see crowds that low again for half the schedule. In 1977 I lived about a mile & 1/2 from the stadium. Money was a lot tighter for me then, I went to the 1st 2 home games & gave up, choosing to listen the games on the radio. I used to do my laundry at a laundromat in Hamburg while listening and would drive right by the stadium on gamedays. There was no traffic and I could see how empty the stadium was. One of the lowest points, even though the team was on the upswing with Knox as head coach was in 1979 when the Bills lost the top pick in the entire NFL draft to the CFL. Can you imagine if we had the #1 pick next year & he signed with the CFL?This board would explode. This period is nothing compared to the stuff that went on at One Bills Drive (and the Rockpile before that) before the great teams of the 1990s. I laugh when I see the younger fans talking about how low the franchise has sunk. We old guys know that the mid 1960s and the 1990s were the abberations. Also, for those who think Ralph has lost it, he was pulling the same stuff 30-40 years ago, so there's nothing wrong with him, he's just reverted to Same Old Ralph.

I don't think he had a shot at #2. Look at Nelson, he was doing great in preseason & is nowhere near #2. I think he was on the same level talent wise as what Nelson showed, but got hurt. If he had remained healthy then he would have beaten out either Nelson or Jones. He's on injured reserve.

First round pick? Marshall Faulk in his prime couldn't get a 1st round pick from St. Louis to Indy.

I don't believe it. Why don't you just start a thread every day titled "Ralph is Cheap" because posts like your's are doing exactly that. I think posts like your's are total BS. Brohm is not playing because everyone at OBD thinks that Fitzpatrick gives them a better chance to win at this time. Once the season is mathematically sunk, then you'll see Brohm. It's about winning, not money-something people like you will never see because all you ever think is Ralph is cheap. So keep posting all your Ralph is cheap BS and ignore the realities that Chan Gailey wants to win, because if he puts Brohm in before his time & he goes 0-16, no matter how much rope you think he has, at some point a bad enough record will get him fired. Now you won't believe it because you think Ralph is too cheap to fire him. Chan doesn't believe that & that's one reason he's trying to win as many games as possible, even if it's only 2 because the talent isn't there. Once Chan quits on the team by not putting who he feels are the best guys, he'll be toast.

But the weather in that dome was terrible that day.

So every QB who has never been a starter has the potential to start & if we think he's a failure even after he sailed through waivers it's just plain stupid, WOW! Levi Brown is your next great hope. It's not stupid, uneducated BS when I can cite the fact that no player drafted as high or higher than Brohm has ever turned into a viable starter in the modern (post merger) history of the NFL who got waived on his rookie contract. You may still think it's BS, but it certainly isn't uneducated BS. I have the league history to back up my assumption, you have a pipedream that Brohm will be the 1st to do something. If anything is uneducated BS, it's assuming something that you HOPE will happen will happen even though it would be the 1st time EVER.

In a year or 2 they'll be dangling Wang looking for trade offers.

In my day I got an 1132 and 1140 and I scored 672 and 660 on math, so I know that it couldn't be out of 1000. I thought your Trent Edwards joke was pretty funny, but I'm originally from NYC, so maybe that's why I got it.

23 points gets us to 70. Do you think our D can hold the Jets under 23 points?

When the Bills are up by 20 on the Jets, the smart move would be to take Andrew Luck out & put in Fitzpatrick for the rest of the 4th quarter. If Fitzpatrick has a chance at a TD pass up by 20, let him take it because it might be the only chance that season.

66% of the fans here had Brohm starting opening day this offseason. When you pick up another team's trash QB, the new fans want him to start because they haven't seen the reason he was cut. They look at the guy they know and think anyone can play better until they see him in real games and the fantasy goes away. Around here, rooting for the unknown guy to start is a disease known as Marangi Syndrome.

Even though he was a backup, Frank Reich qualifies.

I've said it before, but if we get the top pick & a QB who the team thinks is worth it is there (Luck looks like the surest thing right now but might stay)you take him. That's because 6 of the 18 QBs taken #1 have won the Super Bowl as the starter at least once. 4 of them are multiple Super Bowl winners. Drew Bledsoe was on the bench when NE won in 2002, so technically 7 of 18 have Super Bowl rings. If you game me a 33% or better chance of winning a Super Bowl just by drafting the right player, compared with the 0% we currently have, I'm going to take that gamble. Now considering there are 5 more #1s who can still win a Super Bowl, although I have my doubts about Alex Smith, that 33% may end up being a low figure.

The whole premise is ridiculous, starting with the 1st paragraph conjectures. All you had to do was listen to Chan yesterday to know Brohm will get his chance this year. They're not going into the draft, never playing Brohm and not drafting a QB. It goes against everything getting rid of Edwards was all about. Do you really think 5 teams will have worse records than the Bills? Name them-but before you do, take a look at their schedules the rest of the year. Our's is very tough.