Albany,n.y.

I don't know about ones from years back but the most recent one to go to the HOF is Kurt Warner, who got cut by GB as a rookie and you know the rest of the story. What I think is most interesting is that in 1994 Warner was in the same camp with Farve, Brunell and former Heisman winner Ty Detmer. To this day I believe it was the greatest group of QBs ever on one team, albeit in preseason, at the same time. Two Hall of Famers, a pro bowler and a former Heisman winner who was a decent career backup and lasted 14 years in the NFL. Combined, the 4 QBs played a total of 65 seasons.

He has the 2019 season to make or break. Maybe he turns things around in his 3rd season like Eric Moulds did, but until he does, I don't think anyone is counting on him to be a long term answer. I'm sure all Bills fans would love to see him have that Moulds-like turnaround and play like the guy they expected when he was drafted.

He had a good game or 2 that looked good on paper and made his season look better, but watching him every week, I still think he has a long way to go and is no better than the team's 4th best receiver going into camp. He still had too many drops and is still not crisp enough on his routes. The best thing that I can see in his new approach is he's staying away from windows this offseason (Sorry, I just couldn't resist). If the top 3 stay healthy, Zay is going to have only a handful of catches this year & will likely be fighting for a roster spot in 2020 if the Bills draft any WRs in the 1st 3 rounds. PS: This has nothing to do with my reply to the doctor, but there aren't just 2 spots left if this week the Bills cut Vlad and some of the other suspects who will be long gone before opening day.

One of the toughest jobs in preseason is going to be sorting out a starting offensive line. Fortunately the guy making the decision will have fresh eyes & won't be tied to any of the players. He & McDermott will decide on the best 5 and who will be the backups. What a difference a season makes! Last year the starters were chosen as the lessors of multiple evils. This year there will be real competition among some pretty talented players. Guys who are still on the roster like Vlad should be expecting a pink slip soon & Teller should get ready to compete for a practice squad spot or a team in the XFL.

No it's not a legitimate discussion. Nobody is trashing Allen, like the league just trashed Rosen. If Allen was on the trade market teams would be throwing multiple #1s at the Bills begging them to take their picks for Allen. Meanwhile Rosen was traded for a late 2nd & a future 5th. I haven't heard anyone in the media saying anyone who needs a QB should have given Arizona even one #1. If you can't take the heat don't start a stupid thread & then get your panties twisted when someone calls you out on it.

Which one? The one that gutted their roster & drafted a player at #6 who they hope doesn't play for 3 years, or the team that hired a head coach who looks like a mental patient and then hired 2 assistants who hate each other?

Now on NFL Network they're saying the Dolphins think pick 48 is too high & are putting heat on Arizona to lower the price.

I'm rooting for the same thing to take place in Miami this year, but I doubt it will happen because Gase was fired for wanting to win & if Miami gets the #1 pick, management will have a Mission Accomplished banner hanging at their 1st post season presser.

...and both times it was the #1 pick of the draft, in part due to Rosen's "contribution" to the team "attaining" that pick.

It's 47 or 44 if you delete the 2 teams.

Obviously not to Gettleman. Since nobody was willing to give Arizona anything higher than pick 48, it looks like after seeing Rosen in the NFL in 1 season, a lot of NFL GMs think at this point that Jones has more upside than Rosen. If you think the NYG picked Jones at 6 when he would definitely have been there at 17, you are underestimating what the other GMs thought of Jones and overestimating what they think of Rosen. Gettleman was concerned enough to take no chance on losing Jones before pick 17. Who knows, maybe the Dolphins would have gladly spent their 1st rounder on Jones but would never think of surrendering it for Rosen.

So in 1 year the Cards took the 15th, 79th & 152nd picks of the 2018 draft and turned that into pick 48 of the 2019 draft and over $8 million of dead cap space for 2019. BRILLIANT!

I was listening yesterday when he went on a rant saying he does this for a living & knows more than his callers. It reminded me of the time I was watching a Republican presidential debate and somebody mocked Michelle Bachmann & she said "I'm a serious candidate for president of the United States." I haven't heard anything that funny and detached from reality until I listened to Schopp yesterday.

By draft day everyone knows who the Bills want at #1 and Beane not only doesn't care, but gets the guy anyway at the lowest possible price. Last year everyone paying attention in the media who put out a mock draft had the Bills trading up for Allen and Beane was still able to trade up and not have to give up his 2nd #1 or his 2019 #1. This year, once again, the Bills never hid their love for Oliver and just sat there & waited until their turn came to pick him.

The Jones pick reminds me of another QB the Giants took in the top 10. I was living in the NYC suburbs at the time & the media & fans went nuts when the Giants used the 7th pick in the draft to take a kid from that QB factory Morehead State. Phil Simms had a pretty good career.

I wanted nothing to do with DK at pick 9 but at 40 I wouldn't complain. I wouldn't move up for him, but now that the 1st round is over he's worth a shot that I didn't feel he was at 9. If the Bills draft him I'm going to have to stop calling him Decay Metcalf, at least for now.

This Rosen stuff reminds me of the incompetence of Buddy Nix. He drafted Spiller in the 1st round and totally devalued Marshawn Lynch's trade value by not trading him until 1 month into the season. As it turned out, drafting Spiller was a mistake & 1st demoralizing Lynch and then shipping him off for what turned out to be Chris Hairston & Tank Carder, who got waived before the start of his rookie year, was an even bigger mistake. When Marshawn talks he's very diplomatic about his trade from the Bills. The truth is from the draft until October the Bills basically treated him as persona non grata and he saw his carries decreased in 2010 and then the Bills got virtually nothing for him in a trade when Buddy could have gotten a lot more if he had handled the situation differently. Even worse, the Bills never needed Spiller to begin with since they already had Fred Jackson.

If there's no need to dump Rosen for virtually nothing. Look at what happened in San Diego when they drafted Rivers. Brees stuck around and turned his career around and beat out Rivers before eventually leaving as a free agent on the way to a HOF career.

Mock drafts suck & draft experts aren't experts.

They went by the rule never let a player you want in the 1st get away by trying to get him later. I've had Jones to the NYG all along.

If the Bills think they're getting a difference maker then they make the trade. Think it's too much? Well let's go back to the Bennet trade: 2 #1s, a #2 & their #1 from 2 years before (G. Bell). That was a 4 for 1 trade for a player they felt could disrupt things on D. Nobody said Polian was nuts for making that trade.

The biggest steal in draft history was 4th string his rookie year and barely got on the field except for pregame warmups.

Decay Metcalf.

Manuel: Virtually everyone on the planet except Nix & Whaley knew the class of 2013 was the worst QB class since 2007, but instead of resisting the urge and waiting another year the dynamic duo of Nix & Whaley had to take a QB. It doesn't matter if they got a #2 for trading down, they blew the pick by taking a QB, period. No QB was worthy of a 1st round grade. Ironically, Matt Barkley, our current backup was in that draft.

If he really wants to do what is in the best interest of the team he'd resign and take crazy eyes with him. One more Gase: