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What if nobody wants to trade up to #1 who has the draft capital to do so? The top of the draft is loaded with top D players who are all rated pretty equally. Why would a team anywhere near the top want to make a trade up when they can get a player just as good as the one they can get at their spot? If a team further down wants to get to the top, it would be too cost prohibitive to do so. So this just isn't a reply to you, it's a reply to everyone who thinks Arizona can just snap their fingers & find a trade partner who will give them a haul for the top pick-easier said than done.

My thoughts exactly. One thing that can be concluded about Rosen: No GM without a QB who they believe is a long term franchise QB thinks Rosen will ever be a franchise QB. At best, Rosen is viewed as no more than adequate. Obviously Arizona doesn't view Rosen as a potential franchise QB, which is why they are considering drafting Murray. This is similar to the way the Bills viewed Tyrod Taylor-JAG who will never be a franchise QB. If anyone with a QB need thought of Rosen as a franchise QB, they would have offered Arizona a #1 pick. So far, according to rumors, the best offer is a #2.

You can't ruin a QB unless he suffers a career ending or destroying injury. Any QB who was "ruined" never had it to begin with. You can blame all the ruined QBs on 1 thing-bad scouting. The "ruined" guy should have never been drafted where he was. Nobody ruined JP, EJ or any QB who doesn't use his 1st name. Teams reach for QBs, then the coach puts them in when their lack of NFL ability is exposed sooner rather than later. JP sat his rookie year and it didn't work out so good. EJ started his rookie year & the coach saw enough to know he didn't have it. Either way, the Bills reached in both cases just as many GMs have done over the years & then fans blame the coaches instead of the GM & scouts who drafted the bum.

Fans use it a lot more than teams. I doubt when a team is negotiating a trade, a GM is looking at a chart. More likely, the GMs are looking at what picks they have & go from there. Look at the Darnold & Allen trades last year. Indy traded 2,200 to the Jets for 2,540 in last years draft and what turned out to be another 550 in this year's draft. Nobody in the Jets front office was hung out to dry because they traded too many points to Indy. Indy jumped at the deal because it gave them 3 extra #2s and they were still able to get the player they wanted. The Jets knew that in order to assure themselves one of the top 3 QBs, they had to give whatever it took. That tells me the Jets had 3 QBs rated highly enough that it was worth whatever it would take-points be damned. The Bills traded for a spot worth 1,500 points and a 7th rounder not even on the chart because the chart doesn't account for comp picks. They gave up 1,910 points & were glad to keep their other 1st rounder. If necessary, Beane would have traded the 21st pick rather than lose Allen. Once again points be damned. Bottom line is if a team really has zoned in on a player, they don't give a rat's behind about JJ's chart.

I expected this Tweet, not the one in the original post I replied to.

Jamarcus Russell was a bust because he was a fat lazy slob who didn't want to work at being a pro athlete. As I said before, I'm not into going on a board and predicting failure. I will mention something though: Years ago I thought Vince Young was going to be a massive bust & I told everyone who would listen. Then he goes out and surprises me his rookie year and I vowed to stop getting on QBs coming out of college and predicting doom & gloom for their careers. Funny how Young turned out, even getting some preseason snaps with my team near the very end of his career.

A couple of months ago when there was no football stuff happening I looked back at the final 2018 mock drafts & a very high % of the top guys had the Bills trading into the top 10 for Allen. What that told me was the word was out that the Bills were going after Allen and they still were able to trade up & get him. Some guys, like Kiper, do mock drafts based on who they think is the best player at the position & assign him to the team in need of that position. Other guys actually try to predict what will happen, rather than apply their biases like Kiper (who BTW thought Allen was the best QB & mock drafted him to Cleveland), and end up getting things right sometimes. Going over all the mocks, the guys actually trying to predict the draft were saying the Bills were going to do whatever it took to get Allen if he fell out of the top 3. They were also smart enough to know neither Cleveland, NYG or NYJ were taking him.

So what the OP is saying is that Arizona is too dumb to recognize that he has bad mechanics, has a coaching staff that is too dumb to be able to coach him into better mechanics & Murray is too set in his ways to listen to coaches and work on his mechanics, all because he loves baseball. While I'm not a fan of Arizona drafting Murray #1 and I think there are a number of red flags from size to the lack of success on dual sports QBs who have baseball contracts (remember Elway was just using the Yankees to get out of Baltimore) and end up playing in the NFL, I think the OP is really reaching on this mechanics thing. Also, for every QB ever drafted since the advent of message boards, there are numerous posts as to why the guy will be a bust. I prefer posts that aren't negative on every QB out there, although I will admit that when I heard that EJ was offering stock in his future the 1st thing I said was I want to know how to short that stock. PS: I will admit a lot of what I feel is clouded by all the criticism I saw last year on Josh Allen before we drafted him and how stupid any team would be to make him a top 10 pick.

I'll be there.

If Seattle thinks Haskins has franchise potential they should consider trading Wilson to the NYG for picks 6 & 17 plus either another draft choice or a player. That way they can reset their cap # at QB & make another Super Bowl run adding players they can't add with Wilson's cap #. Now if they don't love any QBs in this draft, they better do everything needed to keep Wilson happy in Seattle.

No they don't. Once the Pegulas got approved & owned the team, they can do anything they want in regards to their stadium and the NFL can't stop them. The NFL put up with Al Davis for years because they knew they couldn't do anything to him if he made a decision that was, what he thought, best for the Raiders. Do you think the NFL loves the road revenue when they play in LA against the Chargers in that sub-minor league stadium for 3 years? If the Bills decide to renovate New Era stadium, all the NFL can do is send the opponents there and suck it up.

Unless this guy has a bad medical report on Alex Smith in his hands, how the heck does he know if the Redskins are desperate for a QB. A year ago Washington though of Smith enough to give him a 5 year contract. Even if he doesn't play in 2019, unless they KNOW that Smith will never play again, they have to ride it out this season & hope he returns in 2020. They're just too hog-tied with his contract to go drafting his replacement this year. Just look at his contract #s (linked), with a dead cap hit of over $32 million in 2020. They can't afford to move on unless the medical reports say he's done and I seriously doubt this mock drafter knows what his medical report is. https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/washington-redskins/alex-smith-3337/

Everyone seems to be forgetting that the Giants have the #17 pick in the draft. If they don't view any of the QBs worth a top 10 pick, they can sit at 17 and get their guy, if they even have a guy in this bad QB draft year. Nobody wants to be the next Buddy Nix-a guy who takes a QB just to take one because he neglected the position in earlier drafts. Better to be prudent and wait a year until a guy, not JAG, is available in either your spot or a trade up. All this talk about teams between 10-15 grabbing a bunch of QBs is just talk by people who want those teams to get so hungry for a QB they'll get into a bidding war for pick 9. All that is, is Bills homerism by people who love the thought of trading down. The QBs in this draft just aren't that talented to start a bidding war for. Let's look at the teams the trade downers are talking about: Denver: Elway has been taking draft scraps for years hoping one will turn into chicken salad. He's not risking it at 10 or a trade up. Just look at last year, he could have had Allen or Rosen at 5, but wasn't even thinking QB. He's been a win now GM his entire stay, not a guy who looks 2-3 years down the line. It worked with Manning so he thinks a veteran for a few years is better than drafting a QB of the future. He figures he can get 2-3 years out of Flacco and is pushing the young QB down the road to another future draft. Miami: Face it, they're thinking 2020 not 2019. The team is structured to be bad this year. They reached for Tannehill years ago & won't make the mistake of drafting JAG again, at least not in this draft. Cincinnati: They have a mediocrity in Dalton. This draft is filled with future mediocrities. The Bengals are not looking at this draft to get another one. Daton's job is safe for this draft. Washington: They invested in Smith long term. Now he has a season ending injury, but QBs are now playing into their 40s. They traded for this year's stopgap & rather than reach for a QB this year, they'll see what Smith is before the 2020 draft. They'll probably be drafting pretty high, as will the Giants, in a much better QB draft next year, so if Smith can't play again they'll be in position to draft a franchise guy.

There's a lot more than just Jimmy hedging on QBs. Neither had played a down in the NFL, totally different than bringing in a 2nd year player as a hedge on another 2nd year player. Most important: Walsh was Jimmy Johnson's QB in Miami before JJ was hired by the Cowboys. Rosen has no ties to any Bills coaches. Overall, it was a stupid decision. Walsh was a lousy NFL QB & JJ was extremely lucky he was able to fleece the Saints out of a #1 pick before Walsh was fully exposed and was around Not For Long in NO. .

Years ago I heard an interview with Fred Smerlas (who hates Bullough and calls him "brain cell" because according to Fred, he only has one brain cell) and he said the same thing about players telling the other ones they'd kill them if they made a tackle. If I recall correctly, Freddie attributed the threats to Bruce Smith.

I've called a couple of times with Petrino, quite a few years ago. 1st time was a postgame show in the 90s during preseason and we called the post game show together, he got on the phone in my kitchen & I got on the phone in my bedroom so we were both on the air at the same time. The 2nd time I was driving & Petrino called The Coach Dickerson's postgame show from my car on the Thruway. We mentioned how I had security come down after I wrote in the snow on the roof of the indoor seats below the 1st row of the club level endzone "Fire Mularkey" and they made me brush the writing off. Coach responded "Did he write it in yellow?"

If he ends up with the Pats, I can't wait to see Kraft's reaction when he sees Rosen wearing a F Trump bandana in training camp.

The question should be if the Bills win the division should Beane & McDermott get 10 year extensions, not some question that asks what if they go 4-12 or 5-11. Unless the team bus crashes into a ravine there's no way the same team that went 6-10 and has had massive offseason upgrades, a QB with a year of experience & gets an easier schedule will win fewer games than last season.

The Bills order was Allen-Darnold-Mayfield-Rosen-Rudolph & Lauletta according to the leaked photo that I copied from the thread on Bills furious... !@#$‏ @insider_bills Follow Follow @insider_bills More @Schopptalk @Bulldogwgr @NateGearyWGR alleged Bills QB rankings posted on whiteboard at OBD. Shown to me by blowhard Bills employee at Founding Fathers last night. Photo evidence of his employee badge as verification

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Why would the Raiders ever play Peterman or even have him on the 53 man roster? The QB depth chart in Oakland is:' Derek Carr Mike Glennon Landry Jones Nate Peterman Look at the Raiders other QBs & GET REAL

New Jersey Sue?

Meanwhile the Buffalo media has remained silent, knowing the Bills will be on SNF in November and December.

At the time it was discussed by fans and the best one I saw was "Marv to Bills: Win or I'll sing again"

Most of the mock drafters have been asking and answering the OP's question. It seems they're so hung up on Josh Allen that they're including him in all their mock drafts this year & the consensus is he's a top 5 pick. ?