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I remember there was a lot of fan support on the switch to Peterman. There was also a lot of fan support the following September when Peterman was named the opening day starter. I had mixed feelings the 1st time, since Tyrod was on a pretty bad streak & most of us figured we had nothing to lose with a QB switch. I did respond to one poster who wanted Peterman to be careful what you wish for because he could be a lot worse than Tyrod, but I was still optimistic at the time. Funny thing, I went to both the Chargers game in LA & the Ravens game in Baltimore. Maybe it was me who messed up Peterman's mojo? At the Chargers game Peterman was so bad I called up a fellow Bills fan friend at halftime and we were making jokes & laughing at how bad he was.

The trade was a wash for both teams. With the pick Carolina took Rashaan Gaulden. He lasted a little over a season & a half & was waived. He's now with the Giants. Whose to say the Bills would have done better, but one of the best drafting teams over the years, the Baltimore Ravens, had the pick right after Carolina. One of the reasons the Ravens are the top seed in the AFC this year is because with the pick after Carolina in the 3rd round they took their leading receiver this year, TE Mark Andrews, who led all TEs with 10 TD catches.

It's only ex-Bills. Every other team either has players they signed as rookies or ex-Bills on their rosters. Without the ex-Bills, the league wouldn't have enough players.

Not according to this article: https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/12/30/report-all-signs-point-to-washington-hiring-ron-rivera/ Ian Rapoport of NFL Media reports that the team’s interview with Rivera is more of a “coronation” and that all signs point to Rivera being named the team’s new head coach on Monday. The team can move quickly to hire Rivera as he fills the need to interview a minority candidate under the terms of the Rooney Rule.

I like this psychiatrist joke: My psychiatrist told me I was crazy and I said I want a second opinion. He said okay, you're ugly too.

The RAVENS fired Belichick. The Browns moved to Baltimore & fired Belichick. The current Browns didn't play until 3 seasons after Belichick was fired, I wouldn't call moving a team "sold to Baltimore"

They should begg Gregg to come backk.

I think Rivera is considered a Rooney Rule qualifier by himself.

He'll start. 3 handoffs & on to Barkley.

Ask Marv Levy and the players on the Super Bowl teams that would rest the starters & lose the season finale & then roll in the AFC playoffs.

I remember watching those games thinking that if Kelly had remained healthy, Reich would have never been exposed and by playing it cost him millions in free agency. So instead of getting a big free agent contract, Reich had to settle for a spot on expansion Carolina as a bridge QB to 1st round pick Kerry Collins. I'm not sure whether Reich just didn't age well and was basically done at age 33, or that he was never that good but was able to look good when surrounded by great players in their primes like Reed, Thomas & a pretty good O-line. Either way, by 33 Reich was no longer worth franchise QB money on the open market.

Punting or placekicking?

Here's the good news: There were no holograms on the XXVI tickets (look at the ones you had that got you into the stadium), as there were on the XXV tickets. So unless you had special tickets the tickets you lost weren't real. Like one of the other people in this thread, I thought Minnesota was great. Minneapolis & St. Paul turned the cities over to the Super Bowl fans. There was no need to even rent a car with the shuttle buses going into both Minneapolis & St Paul, opening the HHH dome for fans on Saturday to get around the stadium & get souvenirs that I didn't have to carry with me on gameday, the ice palace in St Paul, NFL Experience in downtown Minneapolis, shuttle buses to the game from the motels, etc. Best of the 4 Bills Super Bowl cities.

I was in the end zone where the kick was headed to. Sec FF Aisle 62 Row 44 Seat 16. What was interesting about my seat was that I was either the last or one of the last of the Bills fans in my row on the left side of the row who had bought the Disney package. To my right were the Giants fans who had bought the Giants travel agent package. We all got along well, probably because of the combination of the war and the fact it was a tight game compared to what at the time were typical Super Bowl blowouts. I was never a Norwood fan and after he missed the kick I turned to the Bills fan next to me & said "Maybe they'll have the guts to cut him now" Here's an interesting story about the tickets that year. For Super Bowl XXV, the NFL decided to scalp the tickets themselves. They took tickets out of each team's allotments that would go to the lottery winning season ticket holders and assigned them to NFL hand picked travel agents. For the Bills that agent was Disney travel. The Giants had an agent too, I don't remember who it was. Originally, the tickets were supposed to be an option to season ticket holders who lost the ticket lottery. I had split seasons with a friend that year & had to use the account in his name to buy my Disney package, although I was able to buy it in my own name. Eventually, the season ticket holders willing to pay a minimum of $1,165 for a ($150 base price) ticket, a few souvenirs & lodging ran out & the remaining tickets were available to the general public. There was a higher priced package that included a flight out of Buffalo, but I chose the no-flight package. While the winners of the team lottery could pick their tickets up at Rich stadium on Monday, those of us who bought the Disney package had to go to The Aud on Tuesday morning to pick up our tickets. After I got my ticket I drove home to Albany and I must have stopped at every Thruway rest stop where I would go into a bathroom stall and stare at my Super Bowl ticket before going back on the road. Overall, there was such a backlash to the NFL scalping their tickets through travel agents that they stopped doing this after Super Bowl XXV. One of the reasons that I didn't buy the package that included the flight was that the flights were out of Buffalo & I wanted to fly out of Albany. Originally, I had booked a flight with Eastern Airlines to a city near Tampa at a low price that I didn't have to pay for in advance. I was leaving for Buffalo on Saturday before the AFC championship game. At 9PM Friday night I turned on Larry King on CNN and he opens his show that Eastern Airlines just went out of business. I then went scrambling on the phone & booked a super saver flight round trip to Orlando on Delta. The only problem was I had to pay them by the next day. Before going to Buffalo I had to go to the Albany airport & buy a non-refundable flight on Delta. Basically, I was betting the $158 I paid for the flight that the Bills would beat the Raiders on Sunday. There were a lot of question marks going into the game. There were rumors throughout the week that the game might be postponed due to the war. To someone like me that was torture since I had scrambled to come up with enough money to pay for the Disney package, the flight to Orlando, 2 motel nights in Orlando outside my travel package, and a rental car (I was eating at places like McDonalds that weekend). If the game wasn't played as scheduled I was screwed. Fortunately, they played the game on schedule. Otherwise my only other option would have been to ask my friend who still owed me the failed season ticket lottery money refund to wire me the money if I got stuck in Florida longer than originally planned.

Yes it's on Ch 23 in Albany. I think all the stations across the state on the Bills preseason network are showing it. Tons of Hunter's Hope commercials.

If you blink you'll miss the starters.

We fired Roman in-season. It's funny how the OC is always the most unpopular guy in Buffalo, yet a few have left & found success elsewhere (and even a Super Bowl ring like Kevin "Killdrive") .

And Eli looked like hot garbage as a rookie & had a poor completion % his 2nd season. I'm not missing the point, I'm not buying your premise. I believe your point is wrong. If you think someone who disagrees with you is missing the point, then I'm missing your wrong point. I added to my post after you quoted me. Josh Rosen was considered pro ready & he's a bust. Every QB when he enters the NFL can be labeled raw. Every QB with a low completion % can be called inaccurate. I really don't care what people, you included, have labeled Josh Allen-I don't agree with your labels.

I don't buy the raw/innacurate assessment so I can't agree with your view. You can call just about every QB coming out of college raw. Eli Manning was very inaccurate his 1st 2 years, hitting fewer than 52% of his passes. So if you want an example of a guy who by your definition who "faced what Allen is up against" I give you Eli Manning, 2x Super Bowl MVP and considered by many a future Hall of Famer. PS: Q: Who was considered the most pro-ready of all the 2018 1st rounders? A: Josh Rosen, a guy who was dumped after 1 season by the team who drafted him and is bolted to the bench in Miami. These raw/NFL ready labels on prospects are nonsense.

Of the guys you mentioned only Mahomes & Jackson have been instant successes. Brady was a game manager his 2nd season after being 4th string as a rookie. Rodgers didn't start a game until his 4th season, spending the 1st 3 seasons in mop up time in a handful of games. Brees was so mediocre after 3 seasons that after his 3rd season, where the Chargers were the worst team in the league, they drafted Eli Manning #1 & packaged him for the QB they envisioned as Brees replacement, Rivers. A lot of QBs need time to develop & aren't thought of as future HOFers after their 2nd seasons. Brees & Rodgers were question marks going into their 4th seasons. Anyone getting on Josh Allen's case after 2 seasons needs to back off and not want to throw away a QB with huge potential, who contrary to your opinion has taken over several games in the 4th quarter. Those games may not have been big enough for you but if you give him time the big games will come.

I had some very similar thoughts as the OP. Every QB misses WRs, gets sacked, throws ints & fumbles. It's just that every time a Bills QB does it people overreact. Jim Kelly didn't get into a Super Bowl until his 7th pro season and 5th NFL season. Years ago teams didn't play QBs for years until they felt they were "ready". 21st century fans want their players to be popped into a microwave and be complete in minutes. Sometimes a QB has to be slow cooked to get the best results. Some fans need to have some patience. Nobody watched the game last night because NBC messed up & televised KC @ Chicago, so they are making GB & Min play the game over.

The future got impeached & removed.

If Carolina trades Newton, unless they draft a QB in the 1st round, they are out of their minds. Since the Newton trade rumors started Kyle Allen has been benched because the league caught up with him & Will Grier threw 3 picks in his 1st start, a 38-6 beatdown in Indianapolis yesterday. A game changer on a rookie contract is worth at least 1 #1. You would give up a 2nd and a 4th, but any NFL GM who did make that offer would quickly get a reputation as a guy who doesn't make serious trade offers.

We learned that "mistake" big time the last time we traded 2 1st round picks for a defensive player-all it did was help us win 4 straight AFC championships. Now maybe if we had our 1988 & 1989 1st rounders instead of Bennett we might have won the Super Bowl once, but I think the trade worked out quite well for the Bills.

What many Bills fans don't know is that when Lou Saban said those words he was coaching the Denver Broncos. Whitey Dovell was an assistant coach on the Broncos staff & was never with the Bills. “They’re killing me, Whitey; they’re killing me!” “Whitey” was assistant coach Whitey Dovell, a football lifer that Saban had brought with him from Maryland. A decade later, after leaving the Broncos, he would return to the team’s staff. Two decades later, he would be one of the central figures in the revival of the arch-rival Kansas City Chiefs as their director of player personnel, for whom he was still working when he died of cancer, aged 65, in 1992. But despite Dovell’s lengthy resume, he went into history as the answer to a football trivia question: “Just who was ‘Whitey’?” Whitey was a man who, like the rest of the coaching staff, couldn’t control a force of nature like Saban. “He just fired guys during the game,” recalled Floyd Little. “He fired the kickoff team at halftime in Houston when we played at old Rice Stadium. He challenged all of our players when we played an exhibition game in Utah. He was a wild man because he was a player for Cleveland and he was very competitive and he wanted to win.” http://history.denverbroncos.com/1969/11/theyre-killing-me-whitey/