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According to some posters that means Brown & Glab hate Coleman.

Those were the best examples of people asking why I hated someone I didn't hate. I observed the actions of the rest of the GMs who let Brohm go by & was flamed because people like you said "I saw him play in college". I can't come up with others because I haven't observed many cases where the actions of NFL professionals have indicated they don't think much of a player and it applied to someone on the Buffalo Bills. After Arizona dumped Rosen after 1 year I drew the same conclusion, but his main supporter was on a different board, so you probably didn't see the flaming then. The reaction that I hate a player because I see a problem that the player has with management that draws an overreaction that I don't like the guy is way over the top. The times I notice this aren't often, but every time I do, people go way over the top & say I don't like the guy. Nothing could be further than the truth. I can't think of any Bills player I've ever disliked when he was on the team. Coleman may make the team, but his future in Buffalo is on very thin ice. There are just too many WRs on the roster better than him: Shakir, Palmer, Moore & Samuel. That puts him as WR #5 IMO. If a rookie WR shines in preseason, Coleman will have trouble making the team. There are just too many receiving options including the RBs & TEs that it will be very difficult for Coleman to get targets & be much of a factor in this offense. If there's a player who opens eyes as a 5th receiver who looks better than Coleman in August, Beane will cut his losses & take a draft choice for Coleman. I'm sure there are other teams where Coleman wouldn't be the 5th best WR, but in Buffalo, he currently is, no matter what preseason depth chart you might find on the internet.

Looks like Dak isn't recovered from his injury.😄

I have nothing against Coleman. I'm just observing the roster. Were you one of the guys who asked me the same question when I warned against Nathan Peterman & Brian Brohm? Every time I make a roster observation the dreamers think I hate the guy, when I just see there's no path for him. I hope he proves me wrong, but he's already buried deep on the depth chart which usually indicates one foot out the door.

Trading for a low round pick, not cutting.

The fact that Beane signed 3 veteran WRs in the offseason may be indicative that he's seen enough of Coleman that he's not sold on the guy. There's rushing to conclusions and there's also observing the actions of a team's management-two totally different things where it may look like the same conclusion. The Bills are going to keep the top 5 or 6 WRs, and unfortunately for Coleman, he may not be one of them.

Considering Keon could easily be 5th on the depth chart, I think there's a good chance he doesn't make the team. Probably goes for a 5th or 6th by late August, early September. All it will take is a rookie or new WR who can return kicks showing more than him in preseason.

If Robbins is as bad as you say, chances are we'll be picking up a guy who gets cut in September by another team like we did with Martin a few years ago.

Brown doesn't even rise to the joke category. He was benched in the UFL after 3 games & never played in another game. .

The #1 job of the backup QB is to be Josh Allen's close friend. So the best way to see who will be the backup is look who went to Josh's wedding. I saw photos of Trubisky & Buechele, but no Mike White. So my guess is the only QB who can beat out Trubisky is Buechele. Your drift is total BS. Brown couldn't even complete 50% in the UFL this year. He played in only 3 games, sucked & got benched. Brown is much worse than any QB on the Bills roster.

Guaranteeing 95% vs 100% is getting into the ridiculous mode. So, you're paying a guy $10 million, and you're guaranteeing $9.5 million for 4 years. The difference is $125,000 a year-chicken feed to NFL teams. What's going to happen is the teams that care about getting their rookies in camp on time will figure out the nit-picking isn't worth it, while teams like the Bengals will let their rookies come in late over a few $ of guaranteed $. Or the players will realize 95% is close enough & get themselves signed. If the teams don't want to guarantee the contracts of 2nd rounders, trade out of the 2nd round, or have enough confidence in the players you are drafting.

They had horrible scouts & it didn't take the coaching staffs long to figure they had drafted a QB bust. You can't develop a guy who sucks, and it's usually the coaching staff that sees the guy more than anyone else, practicing all week, that realizes the guy has nothing long before the fans who see him once a week, at best, do. Even the worst coaches know a player who has nothing.

It may not be enough for fans, but often it is enough for the team's management who see the guy in practice every day. Arizona couldn't wait to dump Josh Rosen after his rookie year. I'm guessing the thing that got Kingsbury the HC job was he wanted to install an offense that wasn't suited to Josh Rosen (although it turned out no NFL offense was). Marrone was basically done with EJ after his rookie year & quit as soon as Orton did instead of coaching EJ another season.

It depends on why he doesn't. If it's because the guys in front of him on the depth chart are playing like Pro Bowlers, and outperforming both Worthy & Coleman will it really matter?

I remember Josh's rookie year a lot different than you do. I saw the flashes of brilliance you want to see in a rookie & thought he was the answer at QB. If you didn't think much of his rookie year, you were relying too much on stats. Visually, he had "it". I was so confident in his ability that the next year I was all over Bills futures & won big. I also had the audacity to tell a Jets fan on my bus on opening day 2019 that Josh was a future HOFer. I guess since I rely on my eyes and never on stats, I remember Josh's rookie year a lot differently.

Bumped into Joey Bosa in the locker room and they both got injured.

The plan is to draft a QB in a year or 2 with key players locked up while the QB is on a rookie contract for at least 3 years. Not a bad plan if they find the right QB, but the last time the Jets drafted the right QB was 2000 when they drafted Chad Pennington, and even then it was the same year NE drafted Tom Brady 5 rounds later.

Is MTG really that dumb? (Obvious answer is yes). Epstein killed himself when he was awaiting trial. He would have received a much longer sentence, like Ghislaine Maxwell, who got 20 years .

The only time Fields has been misused is when his team has put him on the field instead of keeping him on the bench. He's a career backup who has no business starting.

I have a Larry Felser column from The Sporting News from 1986. Unfortunately, I couldn't find it on the internet, so I'll type it out (I've abbreviated words like quarterback to QB). I think after 39 years the statute of limitations on typing this article has expired. The author, one of my favorite columnists of all time has been gone a long time. It basically explains how a talented QB isn't damaged by going to a bad team. I don't think the game has changed to the point that you couldn't ruin a QB in the 1980s but can now. Kelly's Plight Isn't Unusual As soon as Jim Kelly began negotiating with the Buffalo Bills to begin his NFL career, the chuckling started: "Poor Jim. He will have to play with that hapless team. He deserves a better fate...the Raiders, the Rams or some other team in Lotus Land." If Kelly signs a contract with the Bills, he will be coming to a team that bears a strong resemblance to a dead horse, but it will not be a unique experience. Kelly already has been compared to-sometimes rated above-most of the quarterbacks playing today. If he plans to translate those claims into reality in the record book, he will have to make something out of very little for the Bills, because that is what most of the great QBs have done. Consider San Francisco's Joe Montana, whom many pro football experts rank as the best QB playing today. In 1978, the year before Montana was drafted by the 49ers, they had a 2-14 record. They were 2-14 in his rookie season, 6-10 the next year, then compiled a 13-3 record and won the Super Bowl in his third. The Bears were 6-10 in 1981, the season that qualified them to select Jim McMahon. When McMahon was a rookie in the strike-shortened 1982 season, the Bears were 3-6. They were 8-8 in '83, 10-6 in '84 and 15-1 in last year's Super Bowl championship campaign. Dan Fouts' brilliant career as San Diego's QB obscures his unhappy beginnings. The Chargers were 4-9-1 in 1972, the year before he came to them. They were worse his rookie season, and it wasn't until Don Coryell took over as coach in 1978, Fouts' 7th season, that he played on a winning team. Denver moped along at 2-7 in 1982, the season before John Elway came to the Broncos. The Broncos were 9-7 his rookie season, 13-3 the next year and 11-5 last year. The major exception of a top current QB making his debut with a poor team was Dan Marino, who went to a Miami team in 1983 that had played in the previous Super Bowl with David Woodley at QB. So the Dolphins were 12-4 in Marino's rookie campaign and 14-2 including a trip to the Super Bowl, his second year. Then there is Terry Bradshaw, the only QB ever to go 4 for 4 in Super Bowls. The Pittsburgh Steelers were 1-13 in 1969, which is the reason they got to select Bradshaw with the first pick in the draft. The Steelers were 5-9 in his rookie year, 6-8 in 1971, 11-3 in '72, 10-4 in '73, and 10-3-1 in '74, when they capped the season with their first Super Bowl victory. If Kelly is as good a QB as his admirers claim, he'll have the same sort of chance to prove it that most of his peers did. Besides, he has the jump on them, two years as a professional, although he did play in a league of inferior quality. Kelly may be surprised at what he finds on Buffalo's offensive roster when he gets to the Bills-assuming he does. Buffalo has been choosing wide receivers with premium draft picks for three years. Andre Reed caught 48 passes a year ago. Only Eddie Brown of Cincinnati and Jerry Rice of San Francisco caught more among rookies. Chris Burkett and Jimmy Teal are also talented youngsters, and the Bills still have slick veteran Jerry Butler. Buffalo's principal strength is in the backfield, with Greg Bell, Joe Cribbs and top draftee Ronnie Harmon. The Bills offensive line allowed 42 sacks last year, but nearly half of those came because QBs panicked in situations when the opposition knew they had to pass. Kelly was sacked 73 times in his rookie year in Houston. Save the tears for Kelly. He'll be no worse off than most of the other top QBs were when they started.

The Bills team in 2018 was bad, Josh basically willed the team to 5 of the wins. Josh made Robert Foster look like an NFL receiver because even as a rookie, in spite of looking a lot worse on paper than he did on the field, Josh was already a difference maker. The O-line was a total mess, resulting from the losses of both Wood & Incognito. Losing those 2 guys made a big difference from 2017 to 2018. Our WR corps were a bunch of dregs both seasons after losing Woods & dumping Watkins before the 2017 season. Beane understood how bad things were in 2018 & revamped the O-line & WRs. Unfortunately, in revamping the O-line he ended up dumping Teller in favor of Feliciano, but no GM is perfect. Basically, we have a difference of opinion because I don't believe you can ruin a talented QB unless you do something that gets the guy a career threatening injury. I know a lot of people believe in the ruin a QB theory, but you'll never convince me of that theory. I believe more bad QBs ruin their coaches than the other way around. Bad scouting is the reason for busts at QB a lot more than bad coaching or bad rosters.

The 2018 Bills fit your description & it didn't destroy Josh Allen. That team had one of the worst O-lines & a whole lot of nothing at WR.

I hate to say this, but Coleman isn't going to be on the receiving end of many throws. Shakir, Palmer, Samuel & Moore will be the top 4 receivers. If a returner emerges from the WR group, Coleman may be one of the usual suspects on the inactive list & if someone else surprises in camp, he might even get traded. Under, by a mile.

Here's what Aaron Rodgers does at golf courses: https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/aaron-rodgers-refuses-to-sign-autograph-for-fan-because-he-didn-t-know-enough-details-about-a-2005-game/ar-AA1IrqBC?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=HCTS&cvid=a5921315422a44dc9afea7afd817e0a2&ei=18 Rodgers got into a tense exchange with a fan he claimed was an "autograph hound" during the American Century Championship celebrity golf tournament on Thursday. The veteran quarterback was signing autographs on the course at Edgewood Tahoe Resort and bumped into the male fan, who claimed he was at a Packers-Saints game "20 years ago." According to the New York Post, the fan had a ticket from the Green Bay Packers' 52-3 win over the Saints in 2005, when Rodgers was a backup for Brett Favre. "I remember the score; it was a blowout," the fan said. "Who'd we play?" Rodgers asked, and the fan replied correctly, saying New Orleans. Not convinced, Rodgers said, "Yeah, it's on the ticket," pointing to the stub. The fan then incorrectly guessed the score by 2 points, saying the game finished 50-3. "And I played?" the 4-time MVP retorted. "One pass, though," the fan responded. "I remember you threw a pass … I don't remember it like that, I was 16, 20 years ago." Rodgers, however, highlighted that he remembered the game and who he connected with on that pass, leading the fan to compliment his "great memory." Their conversation dragged on as he advised the fan to "look it up," referring to the game stats. "You can look it up, though, and I would believe you then I would sign your thing," Rodgers said, "but since I don't believe you, I'm not going to sign it." The fan's face fell dejectedly, and he started walking away, insisting he was at the game.

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