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No one can answer my question above because there is no rational reason for his tariffs and no consistent reason explained by the administration.
I’m not the sharpest knife in the drawer but a rational tariff policy would be to place 10% tariffs on China products and imported oil and use that revenue to pay tuition costs for education/training in high need job fields like nursing, doctors, medical specialists, electricians, welders, mechanics, plumbers, and subsidized child care. Those are areas of real need that would help Americans everywhere. Everyone could understand the reason. By the time we are in nursing homes, doctors will be replaced by us talking to a computer and they will have robots wiping our ass because there are no people in those jobs.-
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13 minutes ago, Motorin' said:
Actively try to bring about the worst case scenario, and characterizing ever possible thing in what worst possible outcome.
They'd rather have the country die than admit Trump did anything right.
What is the goal of Trumps tariff policy? Be specific.
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5 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:
College is an over priced waste.
Keep subsidizing it for all - make the degrees as worthless as high school degrees.
Since it’s such an overpriced waste - and bc of your newfound love of free trade - fully deregulate, eliminate the minimum wage, and cut all income taxes under 150 K.
Fine. No one forces anyone go to college. Go get a trades job then. They make good money too and are in short supply. Welders, plumbers, electricians etc are all needed. Those jobs are better than the factory jobs or coal jobs Trump wants your kids to work at.
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1 hour ago, Big Blitz said:
On Friday’s broadcast of HBO’s “Real Time,” Washington Post Intelligence Lead Global Security Analyst Josh Rogin said that President Donald Trump is correct that global trade hasn’t been fair to the United States, but his solution is completely wrong.
Host Bill Maher said, “I think I’m generally with the consensus, which is that this is some quixotic attempt to bring back an era in this country that is just gone with the wind, the manufacturing. But, I don’t know, I was shocked to see The…New York Times, their headline a week ago was, global trade robs U.S., Trump says, does he have a point?'”
Rogin responded, “Yeah. I think Trump has this amazing ability to correctly diagnose a problem and then to bungle the solution with a policy that’s totally incoherent and incompetent, and I think that’s what we’re seeing here.
Democrat solution:
How arrogant does one have to be, to be the wealthiest nation in the history of the world and declare that global trade hasn’t been fair to America? Every other nation on the planet is like WTF? In other countries, children and young adults leave their families to go to work in factories making goods for America. They work in places with no OSHA or laws to protect them. They make this sacrifice to support their families living in poverty unlike anything in America. Do Americans think that other countries don’t also have problems adapting to changes caused by global trade?
America has benefited the most from global trade. The entire economy of the world has been designed by and for the benefit of America. As our economy has developed and wages increased, corporations followed the rules of capitalism and moved to locations where labor and resources were cheaper to maximize their profits. Americans supprted that philosophy over and over again by choosing the cheaper foreign made products over the remaining Made in America alternative. America is still the #2 largest manufacturer in the world. Biden got the bipartisan CHIPS Act done which is a step in the right direction. Trump has repeatedly wanted to repeal that… for no logical reason.
Now currently, the economic issue seems to be the struggles of young men without college degrees. A lot of them seem to think they deserve better. Women are succeeding more than ever before and are out competing men in many areas. If men are struggling, the answer is to buck up, get off the video games, and get training or education in a field that will pay well. If you have to move, then move. Make a career in the military. There are plenty of labor shortages in many sectors of our economy. Why does the only answer have to be a factory job artificially created by tariff taxes paid by Americans?
Everyone is ignoring the service sector of the economy. We dominate the world in that department. There are huge labor shortages in this sector. The trade war has, and will, damage this sector of jobs. See: https://www.cnn.com/2025/04/11/business/service-sector-trade-war-jobs-threat/index.html
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So basically these neo Nazi idiots are a bunch of insecure losers.
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So now Trump has given tariff exemptions for tech and electronics from China. They have paid him off. I thought the tariffs were about bringing Apple factories back to America. The big bad wolf is looking like all bark and no bite after he realized his stupidity. He has painted himself into a corner and now must deliver great amazing trade deals to justify the self inflicted damage he has done to the economy. Other countries will be smart to be slow to give concessions, knowing he is under pressure to deliver something.
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So now Trump admin is forcing employees to take lie detector tests which are proven unreliable so they are not admissible is courts. That’s some Nazi s#@t.
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2 hours ago, Wacka said:
Like you have never, ever done that going through a door.
No as in never. A person with a functioning brain knows the umbrella needs to be folded first.
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I think this is an excellent talking point for republicans to repeat. It’s all just digital ones and zeros on your bank statements!
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This is stupidity in action.
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16 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said:
5.8 over a ten year period while reducing 194 billion in government spending and eliminating $880 billion in taxes on overtime pay. So both bad and good.
Can you please now explain to me the benefit of owing money to China?
What is owing money to China? Are you talking about the $750 billion in US Treasury securities they own or do you mean the products we purchase from China?
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In addition to Steve’s comments above, most small rural towns (MAGA land) with low income jobs, have very few stores to shop at. There is often just a Dollar General - filled with products from China, a liquor store and gas station. These people can either shop local and buy products from China or shop the internet and still buy from China.
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1 hour ago, thenorthremembers said:
I do know that. The issue I have is both our trade deficit and our budget deficit are completely out of control. We may be the #2 manufacturer in the world, depending on which statistic you choose to use, but China is ahead of us by double.
I've said it here before, and I think its basic economic fact, debt is financial slavery. We cannot continue to owe countries the amount of money we do.
Your arrogance is showing. You think you're more intelligent than 77 million people?
So I presume you are opposed to the extension of the Trump tax cuts which will add 5.8 trillion to the deficit. Correct?
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1 hour ago, All_Pro_Bills said:
I've read some opinion pieces that suggest the tariffs are about dismantling the current global order, which now favors China more than the US, on our terms rather than theirs. What I don't get about the strategy is then why involve the rest of our trading partners in the dispute?
Here's a link to one: https://blog.exitgroup.us/p/deglobalization-is-over-determined
I agree with your assessment. If China is the target, it makes no sense to tariff the rest of the world too. There is no logic behind these tariffs. So then the reason for them moves to other realms.
Interesting read in the link but I have no idea who the author is or what his credibility is.
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So if the tariffs are about fixing the national deficit, why did the Republican senate pass this budget proposal?
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Uncertainty Index = Lack of trust.
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No public policy, based upon goals to achieve for the betterment of America, to determine exemptions from tariffs going forward - just whatever he wants to do. Smells like corruption to me.
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If Obama, Biden or Harris had pulled this stunt, tweeting it’s a great time to buy, before announcing the 90 day pause, MAGA media and the Republican Party would be screaming for impeachment due to market manipulation. They would be launching immediate investigations to find the insider trading. With Trump, the cult members are all happy with it….nothing to see here.
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Trump ❤️ Tariffs
in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
Posted · Edited by Andy1
Rational in the sense of being understandable or logical from a policy perspective, not that I agree with it. I would see the training funded with savings from DOGE.