Andy1

There is a reason for the law. The law bans filming for partisan political purposes. Trumps cameras were there specifically for partisan political purpose. This country has a long history of separation of politics from the military. There are both democrats and republicans buried there. No one is asking them if they consent to being used for a political campaign. For those who don’t know, this is called respect for our dead veterans. Media have filmed Presidents there during the course of their duties. That footage is called reporting and is not used for political campaigns. Now one would expect that someone who has had four years of education about the military and politics in the role of the President would know about this. Apparently Trump and his team of only the best and smartest were clueless. Now if they didn’t know, they are idiots. But then, when informed by cemetery officials, they said F-it - “We will do what we want”. So that makes them scum who don’t respect veterans. If a Dem pulled this stunt, Fox entertainment would be talking about it for months nonstop, and you know it.

Our MAGA crew here has been real quiet about this incident. There has been continual denial about his disrespect for the military and those who served. This is just the latest disrespectful incident of many that Trump has done through his words or actions. Maybe it’s starting to sink in now with this latest incident. He decided that getting the video and pictures he wanted was more important than honoring these buried there by following the federal law banning filming for political purposes. They pushed aside the cemetery official doing their job to stop the filming. He then immediately used the pictures for his campaign to raise money off the images of the gravestones of those vets. And to further insult the Arlington Cemetery staff, Trump staff claim that the cemetery official had a “mental health episode” which caused the conflict. It’s hard to do something that shows less respect for veterans than that. Team Trump claimed to have video supporting their side. We are all waiting for them to release the video and a formal apology to the Arlington staff would also be appropriate.

Giving a “thumbs up” and using dead veterans for campaign material is beyond weird and repulsive to most people. “Federal law prohibits political campaign or election-related activities within Army National Military Cemeteries, to include photographers, content creators or any other persons attending for purposes, or in direct support of a partisan political candidate’s campaign,” the cemetery officials’ statement said. “Arlington National Cemetery reinforced and widely shared this law and its prohibitions with all participants. We can confirm there was an incident, and a report was filed.” The Trump people were warned ahead of the event that photography is prohibited. A cemetery official doing his job attempted to prevent the photography of the ceremony. Afterwards, the Trump campaign accuses that official of having a “mental health episode”. Trump then uses the video footage for a campaign ad. It’s just another example showing Trump is a self-absorbed low life who has no reverence for our veterans. If dems pulled this stunt, Fox entertainment would be talking about it for a month.

Ah yes, I forgot. Trump only hires the most qualified and best people. But I guess if they disagree with him, they instantly morph into the elite Washington swamp scum.

Yes, it has been discussed because it is remarkable. It is amazing how none of the people who worked closely with Trump are willing to publicly support him. Most are staying silent to avoid MAGA backlash. Many have come out publicly to warn America about him. The further people are from Trump, the more appealing he seems. In all my years of following politics, I’ve never seen this level of disgust towards a former president by his former Republican team members/employees. If you were interviewing someone for a job and his former coworkers spoke like this, no one would hire him. Here is a small sample of what people who worked closely with Trump have said about him: General John Kelly: “The depths of his dishonesty is just astounding to me. . . . He’s the most flawed person I have ever met in my life.” General Jim Mattis: “He’s dangerous. He’s unfit.” “The president has no moral compass.” “This degradation of the American experiment is real.” Dan Coats: “He doesn’t know the difference between the truth and a lie.” Rex Tillerson: “A moron.” Mitt Romney: “I think he’s not smart. I mean really not smart.” “A whack job.” Gary Cohn: “Dumb as *****.”

More than 200 Republicans who worked for President George W. Bush, Sen. Mitt Romney (R-Utah) or the late Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) have endorsed Vice President Kamala Harris, warning in a letter that a second Trump presidency “will hurt real, everyday people and weaken our sacred institutions.” The open letter with the endorsement was first published Monday in USA Today, with 238 signatures. In the letter, the GOP alumni wrote that they are voting for Harris and her running mate, Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz, despite policy differences. “Of course, we have plenty of honest, ideological disagreements with Vice President Harris and Gov. Walz,” they wrote. “That’s to be expected. The alternative, however, is simply untenable.” Here is the link to letter and signees. https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/25071901/bush-mccain-and-romney-alumni-for-harris-statement.pdf

A political party that doesn’t praise any of its former presidents or nominees is weird. A political party that doesn’t have any former presidents or VPs attend its convention is weird. It’s because the party of Trump is a cult. The Republican Party no longer exists. Cults are very weird.

Trump and his cronies were the definition of the swamp.

A dozen Republican White House lawyers who served in the administrations of then-Presidents Ronald Reagan, George H.W. Bush and George W. Bush are endorsing Vice President Kamala Harris in her race against GOP nominee former President Donald Trump. https://www.foxnews.com/politics/white-house-lawyers-who-advised-reagan-bush-endorse-harris-over-trump-2024-showdown

Crickets……

The Harris campaign has launched Republicans for Harris chapters in several swing states. I figured we need a place here to keep track of republicans who have announced their support for Harris. This is the start of the list. Surely more will announce. Add more when you hear of them. Former U.S. Secretary of Defense Chuck Hagel Former U.S. Secretary of Transportation Ray LaHood Former U.S. Treasurer Rosario Marin Former GOP state chair and state Senator Chris Vance of Washington Reed Howard of Young Republicans for Harris Former Republican National Committee (RNC) delegate Rina Shah. Jennifer Horn, former New Hampshire Republican Party Chair John Giles, the Republican mayor of Mesa, Arizona Rich Logis, Trump pundit and writer for the Daily Caller and the Federalist Austin Weatherford, former national director of Republican outreach Judge J. Michael Luttig, Retired federal appeals court judge and prominent conservative legal scholar Bill Weld, former Republican Gov. of Massachusetts Geoff Duncan, former Georgia Lieutenant Governor Sean O'Keefe, Republican NASA administrator under President George W. Bush Former GOP Congress members Rod Chandler of Washington Tom Coleman of Missouri Dave Emery of Maine Wayne Gilchrest of Maryland Jim Greenwood of Pennslyvania John LeBoutillier of New York Susan Molinari of New York Jack Quinn of New York Denver Riggleman of Virginia Claudine Schneider of Rhode Island Christopher Shays of Connecticut Peter Smith of Vermont Alan Steelman of Texas David Trott of Michigan Joe Walsh of Illinois Adam Kinzinger of Illinois Former Trump staffers Olivia Troye, homeland security and counterterrorism advisor to Vice President Pence Stephanie Grisham, former Trump White House press secretary

Weird as hell. Psychos supporting a psycho.

Trump feels a psychological need to denigrate the sacrifices of vets because they have something that he doesn’t. They had the courage to serve the nation while when his number was called, he evaded that service with bone spurs. They are held in honor by society in a way that he isn’t. They have a holiday in their honor, while he doesn’t. People thank them for their service in ways that he doesn’t get. He knows that his money can never buy what they have. The Medal of Honor recipients are the most revered vets so he targets them. Lastly, the concepts of service and sacrifice are things he cannot understand. He lives life under the principal of “how much can I get for me. He who gets the most wins.” As a narcissistic psychopath, in his mind, no one can be more important than him. So he minimizes their status to make himself feel more important. He is one old mentally ill moron.

Ok Leh-n, my sincere response to your questions above is no, I wouldn’t do or tolerate any of it. Plenty of dems have said stupid or done insulting things to broad categories of people. The smarter ones learn from their missteps and use restraint. In many cases, dem voters force them out of office. In contrast, Republicans have unlimited support and tolerance for Trumps actions and words. I’ve long been a proponent of civility in our politics and on this forum. I am hopeful that when Trump does go, that the Republican Party can offer something better in the future.

When it comes to insulting others and using language to attack others, Trump is on his own planet, which I’m sure he is happy about.

Personally, I hope the moron keeps right on the same path of insulting everyone. More insults about over weight people are a great way for him to build his base. More insults directed towards disabled people. More insults to women and minorities. Maybe some day brain washed republicans will realize that he could care less about them unless they are very rich white guys he can suck cash from and play golf with.

Well, a logical sane person would think - “If I want to attract voters to me, maybe I shouldn’t call an over weight person a Fat Pig because millions of potential voters and their family members struggle with weight issues.” The logical ramifications of such language may be needlessly offending others. Any idiot in any position of leadership knows that their words matter. Only a mentally ill person speaks like that. Lehnerd, would you tolerate working for a supervisor who called you a fat pig? For some strange reason, other Republicans tolerate it all and say, “insult me some more sir!” It’s just one little example of what a miserable human he is.

Trump is incapable of articulating a reason for why people should vote for him. He only knows how to ridicule and attack people. This weekend, he was ridiculing over weight people talking about Chris Christie as a “fat pig” and mocking Tester for the size of his belly. What an idiot! I bet there were plenty of over weight people at his own rally along with millions across the country. He is oblivious to the ramifications of his speech because he is a narcissistic psychopath with no empathy for others. He says whatever makes himself feel good to boost his fragile psyche.

Another weirdo cult member.

Trump is a black hole attracting a cult of weirdos. Obsession with a politician, wearing Trump merch, flying Trump, flags is all weird as hell. First you get the whackos at his rallies. Then, if he gets elected, he will surround himself with nut jobs like the pillow guy, Roger Stone, the space laser lady, MGT, eye liner wearing Vance, Flynn, along with the rest of the flat earth crowd. The responsible, sane republicans are gone or any remaining don’t want to be with him. Smart people know working for Trump means there is a good chance you will eventually be breaking the law and facing legal charges. The biggest weirdo of them all is Trump himself. How many 78 yr old grandpas do you know who dye their hair, have long stringy hair that they spend hours swirling around their head with hairspray to keep it all in place? How many grandpas wear spray on tan? He wears a costume of makeup each day. There is nothing real about him. He pretends to be a tough guy but has never done anything tough in his life. He is a mentally ill narcissistic psychopathic nut obsessed with the evil dictators of the world.

Admiral William McRaven would appeal to me. His military background would balance the ticket nicely. No Buttigieg for me. He is a great communicator but I would prefer a bit more culturally conservative candidate who can appeal to the undecided middle of the electorate. I could support Shapiro too which would help hold PA. They don’t have much time for background investigation so they need to be convinced that the choice has a clean background.

I wonder if access to such a weapon was a factor in this incident? Maybe not since any ole gun could have done that.

Social media is the scourge of civil society. The algorithms are pushing hate which leads to political violence. We all need to figure out a way to live with each other, even if we disagree.

So can we all agree that violent rhetoric and violent actions have no place in American politics? Whether the victim or target represents the blue or red team shouldn’t matter right? It’s all wrong and not acceptable period.

My plastic gas can works fine, my toilet works, my shower works. Sounds like you all want to return to the glory days when you could buy a Ford Pinto, pollute as much as you want and get a fractured skull from a rear end collision and or get cremated in the accident.