Andy1

In the world of comedy, the Kimmel remarks were remarkably mild. Trump wanted Kimmel off the air. So it turns out that Kimmel was let go after pressure from the Fed FCC Chair. Here is Trump using the power of the Federal government in an authoritarian manner to limit free speech. “Earlier on Wednesday, FCC Chair Brendan Carr had urged local broadcasters to stop airing "Jimmy Kimmel Live" on ABC. He suggested the commission could open an investigation and that broadcasters could potentially be fined or lose their licenses if there was a pattern of distorted comment. "This is a very, very serious issue right now for Disney. We can do this the easy way or the hard way," Carr said in a podcast interview with conservative Benny Johnson that aired Wednesday. "Disney needs to see some change here, but the individual licensed stations that are taking their content, it's time for them to step up and say this, you know, garbage to the extent that that's what comes down the pipe in the future isn't something that we think serves the needs of our local communities." Carr praised Nexstar. "While this may be an unprecedented decision, it is important for broadcasters to push back on Disney programming that they determine falls short of community values," he said.” Nexstar stations carry ABC programming. Nexstar owns lots of stations and is trying to merge in a 6.2 billion dollar deal with TEGNA. The deal will need approval from the FCC. Hence the pressure from Carr and the firing of Kimmel. https://www.reuters.com/world/us/disneys-abc-pulls-jimmy-kimmel-live-off-air-after-remarks-about-kirk-2025-09-18/

Well, it looks like the party that was all opposed to cancel culture is all about it now. Interesting, but not surprising. Such is the stupid times we live in.

My understanding is the terror related charge required the prosecution to prove the action was intended to instill fear in the general public. The prosecution did not prove that point. If anything, the issue may be with what the DA chose to prosecute him with.

It’s my understanding that the illegal hate speech must be intended to incite imminent violence. I don’t know of any cases where the courts have ruled that the speech exceeded this threshold. It’s certainly not students protesting on campus, or people marching in the streets. Apparently, it’s not even Trump inciting an angry mob to go to the Capital. The right to allow others to say speech that we despise is the most American right there is.

I don’t agree with Kirk but I do agree with Scott here. There should be freedom of speech but also accountability for those words if your employer feels it reflects poorly on their business. Some idiots have said stupid horrible things. Hate speech is legally protected, but it doesn’t mean you get to keep your job. There needs to be more accountability for hate speech and actions by people on both sides of politics. There was lots of joking from the right about the attack on Paul Polosi when that horrible attempted murder happened and the right seemed fine with that. I don’t see any Dem politicians or other party leaders celebrating this murder. Idiots will be idiots.

If Sandy Hook didn’t wake up the country to gun violence, nothing will. Charlie is added to the body pile for the preservation of the near absolute right to shoot whatever you want to. We have been told more guns makes us safer. Utah is the most gunny state there is and it didn’t matter. There isn’t even a peep of discussion on universal background checks on gun purchases, that 80% of Americans support. Everyone knows mental health is an issue. Everyone knows the toxic lies and hate on the internet is a problem, but there is no legislation to increase liability of the tech companies. Until something changes, nothing will change.

Nice boring win. Hopefully no injuries other than Josh’s nose. Onto Thursday night.

That Moore TD was understanding the skill of the player, creating space around them and letting him use his advantage to win. Great easy TD.

Nearly unrestricted access to unlimited fire power + brains poisoned by social media algorithms designed to breed anger = deadly shootings. When I was his age, lots of friends had squirrel or rabbit guns, deer guns, etc. There was no social media, no assault weapons available to the public and no school shootings and extremely few mass shootings. The combination of the two factors above make for predictable outcomes. Should government do anything to change the equation? Utah Governor Cox is responsibly pleading for people to cool down. That is a start.

I too was playing in the snow, shooting BB guns with friends, getting shot by same, shooting hoops and doing other typical boy stuff. This kid appears to have been at the shooting range learning how to shoot his parents arsenal. The guy may have been nuts but the parents taught him the skill to do it. Most nuts don’t have the tools or skill. Social media probably poisoned his brain to give him the desire to do it.

So do his parents qualify as groomers teaching and training him to be a deadly shooter? Maybe if he spent more time playing baseball as a kid instead of shooting, it would be a different story.

I don’t know much about him, but Republican Utah Governor Cox seems quite impressive in his handling of this crisis. He had a good message to stay off social media as our enemies in Russia and China are flooding the zone with false information designed to incite anger and divide us as a nation.

Thousands of leftists celebrating? Maybe I’m missing something but I don’t see celebration parades in the streets. And if they were, it doesn’t matter - idiots on either side will be idiots.

The murder of Kirk is bringing the idiots out from all sides. I still believe the vast majority of people have grace and tolerance of others. This is the distortion of social media which elevates the morons to nationwide notoriety.

As far as we know, the shooter was a he and not a they (as in more than one) not that we can rule out a they as in a pronoun. - Bad humor but surely appreciated by many here.

Who the hell is They? Were there multiple shooters? Has the conspiracy already started?

I agree with your point on social media. The people I interact with every day, from all sides of the political spectrum, aren’t rabid lunatics like the social media stars are. Social media provides the brain washing to motivate some people to violence. A lot of businesses make their billions by fostering hate in our society.

What do you mean? Who? How?

Go take your knife to a gun fight and see how you fare. A car isn’t killing Kirk today. The inability to stop every form of homocide isn’t a reason to not take steps to reduce the access to deadly weapons. This is why other countries look at us like we are nuts with our guns.

I think I’m a bit more optimistic than your view. I interact with all sorts of people and in daily interactions, I don’t see that much division. Maybe it’s just people being polite and when they go home they turn into social media warriors behind their keyboards. Places like PPP attract those who want to espouse their political views and battle online. Are all the provocative posters here really as argumentative when they meet someone face to face from the other side of the political divide? That would be weird. What is apparent though is that it is easier than ever to act out gun violence to whomever your target is. If you want to kill someone, get whatever gun you want and have at it.

Instead of being upset at how he or those with different views talk on politics, maybe we should be discussing how we can prevent gun violence.

Who doesn’t have friends who joke with them about selling fully depreciated women to them? I’m sure it’s all just “locker room” talk. On the other hand, Momma always said how I’m defined by the friends I have. Maybe in Donalds deprived childhood, he never got that message.

I’m speechless. Love Prater!

It’s all about acting like you are jacked up on steroids with a double dose of testosterone. When you are strong, you don’t have to tell anyone. This comes from Trumps broken insecure brain.

Covid was a bit more than a minor respiratory virus…. Unless you think these people didn’t die.