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Agreed 100%. It makes no sense to lay out that kind of money for something that's just a little better than what's there already. I'd expect for that much we could at least get a retractable roof.

I want to see that $5 billion stadium.

same place that at least half of the $1.1B is going to go

Just call it infrastructure

Anything is possible, but i've been selling into State and City/County Governments for 25 years and they generally aren't that clever, though given the magnitude of this i'd assume they have their A team engaged

for real. anything we do in NYS is double in cost of doing it anywhere else. Lots of palms to grease along the way and just wait until you see the MWBE requirements.

The net is actually in the other direction - upstate is largely subsidized by downstate. In fact, a rather shocking percentage of the State budget comes directly out of what a fairly small number of Wall St types pay in income taxes Having said that, i'd be all in on an independent upstate. We'd be a little poorer but a lot freer. This whole stadium thing was bungled - I assume that someone high up in PSE thought that leaking this would help their negotiation. All it's going to do is create a lot of ill feeling. The County/State already have a number that they're willing to get to, and this sort of public pressure isn't going to move that number much if at all Last point, in case it hasn't be brought up before, Robert Kraft paid for (and/or arranged for private financing) 100% of Gillette Stadium. This was pointed out to me by a Pats fan buddy of mine, so i looked it up, it's true. He also paid for improvements to local roads and assorted infrastructure to support the flood of traffic caused by the stadium. I can't believe I'm sitting here saying "I wish Kim & Terry were as generous as Robert Kraft" but here we are

Yes, l have a grand investment idea. Build another 50,000 hotel rooms in Buffalo for the every 25 years they get the superbowl. It's literally foolproof

Ugh, this was the first season my son was old enough to really pay attention. So much hype! 'Building a bully' indeed I'm enjoying your season overviews, kind of in the same way i enjoy picking at a scab

It is. Definitely check it out, the last couple times we've gone down there it's been hopping, probably the best place right around here to go have a couple pops and some food

There's a Druthers here in Schenectady now, right on the River, really nice place. I havent tried the wings yet because too busy stuffing the fried pretzels and all in IPA down my throat

So in your opinion, what makes them Buffalo Wings is the medium in which they're heated, not the end result? The only things that can be called Buffalo Wings are deep fried in mel-fry, with sauce that is 4 parts Franks Red hot, 1 part butter? seems rather limiting but if it's that important to you i guess

pretty much the same, tbh, though i like a touch of bbq, and extra heat, to go along with the Frank's blue cheese is critical because again, probably 90% of the blue cheese out there is just terrible. If you're not in Buffalo, your best bet is Rudy's, which as i said earlier, is available at some Wal Marts. I decently crispy wing with enough sauce to cover, with a dollop of Rudy's on it is my happy place, especially at 12:45 on Sunday game day

Grilled wings are not a completely separate dish than fried wings. Yes, they take more work, but every single person who has had my grilled wings says they're better than any they've had locally. Granted this is the Capital Region where wings are pretty much garbage, but you're selling yourself short if you don't try them that way

I see what you did there

as long as we're sharing homebrew approaches, i've settled on grilling wings. I start from frozen, put them on a hot grill, sprinkle Goya seasoning (the red kind in the foil packets) on them, and turn them over, a lot, at least every 5 minutes. They take usually around 40 minutes until the skin is crispy but the meat is still moist. Take them off, toss them is Franks Red Hot with a touch of sweet BBQ and some home made smoke powder (jalapenos & habaneros smoked for a couple hours, dried in the dehydrator, then ground fine) and serve with Rudy's BC, which they've started selling at Wal Marts in the Capital Region Good call on Sutters! Cheap beer, good wings, darts, and Danny the bartender was a great guy

and dont forget the $1 32oz drafts on Tueday nights my liver hasnt forgotten. I still have a couple of those big green cups around somewhere

I'll also let you rookies in on a secret...order them extra crispy. Very few places (especially outside of Buffalo!) make properly crispy wings. I've finally broken the takeout places near where I live and they make the wings correctly. No, they insist, soggy slimy wings are what people want!

lol, im in the same boat. I've been to Elmo's, and love the wings. Before I moved out (30 years ago), i used to go to the Raintree Inn in Tonawanda. No idea if it's still there but pitcher of Molson and a dozen hot wings and I was happy

The other think to consider is that as often as not, some local tavern is going to have fantastic wings. Ask the locals. For my money Duffs is better than Anchor Bar, but when I'm in Buffalo, i'll go to Lebros before either edit: an out of town example of this is (was) Putzy's Tavern on Yates St in Albany. Just a local gin mill that the Albany City workers would come get liquored up at during lunch, that I used to live across the street from. They made fantastic wings

wow deep man

You're making a point here, it's just the opposite point of what you think you're saying

So what about the fans? do they get their money back?

I'm a huge Van Miller fan, but not sure at this point I'm taking his word for much.

So, they're going to force teams to forfeit? What does that solve for exactly? Vaxed people (I am vaxed, my whole family is vaxed) can still get COVID. So what happens if a team is 100% vaccinated, and through no real fault of their own, has enough people get (a very very mild) case of COVID? They have to forfeit a game even though they followed the rules? Yeah, that's going to go over really well. I guess they think the intense shame it'll generate will make everyone double down and...get a third shot?