WhitnerIsAGod

What is Dick waiting for? Cut the bum already! Sheesh.

Joe is a rocket sturgeon.

I nominate Mike Williams for the most generic name award. Dave Smith too.

OK. It's obvious you hate Williams, but blaming him for Wade Phillips monumental !@#$ ups takes the cake. Williams wasn't as bad as you think. He actually won a game that first year when the team was nothing but a steaming pile on the carpet and yet you say he made players worse.

Good. That means things are looking up.

Cut him.

He completed only 113 of 228 passes last year, his second in the NFL. Any QB that falls short of 50% is an unconditional bust with no redeeming qualities. Hang 'em high!

I say we cut him, Troy Vincent, Peerless Price, and Willis McGahee to prove Marv is one tough sucker.

He may not have any character, but he is a character.

Having no plan and not knowing that its about what happens on game day, not in the ESPN newsroom. Here's a microcosm of planning ability. In 5 years, the Bills ran the West Coast, the Fling It and Wing It, the Chuck and Duck, the Kordell Stewart Razzle Dazzle, and the Musical Chairs QB systems. Brilliant.

Best move was out of One Bills Drive. His best move for building a competitive NFL team was bringing in Spikes, by far. If he hadn't done that, he might not have lasted even 5 years. I'm not surprised the Peerless trade is considered his "best move" by many. But, in terms of football production, it was a stupid move. Peerless, Moulds, and Bledsoe had a record setting and very productive year. So rather than keep the trio together, Donahoe pinched Ralph's pennies and decided to break up the combination rather than figure out a way to keep it together. Afterall, Josh Reed, like Losman, was clearly ready for prime time. And, he got a player that wouldn't be able to play a down for at least 1 full season as compensation.

Good to see this thread is still alive.

The story I heard reported was that McMahon hated Flutie. According to the report, Flutie was a serious locker room cancer who lobbied other players, coaches, and management, that he, not McMahon, was the better QB and should be starting for the Bears. Eventually, the Bears decided to get rid of the chaos and dumped Flutie. The story I heard from his first stint in New England was that Rod Rust (the head coach there) canned Flutie because he was a walking three ring circus and hugely disruptive. He couldn't stand the constant distraction of people politicking for Flutie to play, so he eliminated the problem. In Buffalo, Flutie led one side of an all out civil war. Probably all just coincidence.

He did. On the other hand, this isn't good news for those that preach "Doug just wins." The Chargers sucked that year, going 5-11.

A couple more points. The Bills have hired some totally incompetent position coaches in recent years via cronyism. Gregg Williams' bringing in his childhood pal as OL was one of those supreme blunders. The Bills now have two OL coaches and both have long coaching resumes. The last few years, the plan seemed to be any square peg fits any round hole. The general pecking order along a line is C, LT, LG, RT, RG. The Bills seemed to favor picking up free agents that were RGs (i.e. the worst lineman on the unit), from teams with bad offenses, and promoting those guys to more demanding positions. Furthermore, since the offensive system and philosophy was changed more frequently than most posters on this board change their underwear, the right players for the system were never around. Sign some finesse pass blockers and the coaches would decide to try the wishbone. Sign a couple road graders with zero pass blocking skills and the coaches decide to take a 7 step drop and try to complete bombs every play. What a complete cluster.

I also heard Vick looks like total carp and isn't even going to be offered a contract to come to training camp.

Things worked out for the best. I don't think it would have been worth it to waste a few more years waiting for Mularkey's little light bulb to suddenly come on.

Saying most of Donahoe's picks are still in the league is meaningful only in the sense that Buffalo was a bottom feeding team and thus was annually overhauling its roster and keeping its youngest players. Two head coaching changes, an assistant coaching staff revolving door, major purges, tinker-toys experiments gone mad, an absolute circus at the QB position... what's not to like?

Before we get too carried away comparing the Bills to the Patriots, you should consider that the Patriots have been able to field a functional defensive secondary manned by WRs and street free agents at times. Why? Because they have great coaching and their pass rush is able to keep an offense honest. The Bills did nothing to improve their pass rush. And have done very little to improve one of the worst offensive lines in the league.

It's rich, is it not? Being told "nobody has ever seen him" and such -- implications of absolute ignorance being tossed around frivilously. Even though you and many others have seen the guy play in many games over several years.

Uh... but, it's obvious that Marv will be going after a WR next. To fill another hole recently created.

A positive spin: Given Buffalo's track record on second rounders, it's better that they got out of the 2nd round to draft a 2nd rounder.

This isn't really rocket science. Look, you could be GM of team X and have Paul Pinegar rated, under your system, as the greatest QB in the draft in the last decade. And, you may know something noone else on the planet knows. And, you may be right. But, if you trade your entire 2006 and 2007 drafts to Houston for the #1 overall pick and take Pinegar, you are a moron because you have absolutely no clue what is going on around you. Value is defined by the market, not one's own hard ons for particular players. Even if Pinegar is some combination of Elway and Montana, history is going to say you had a witless fool's luck on your side. And, still the chances of it working out that well are fantastically small.

One can also gauge interest in the position based on how the draft plays out. The Bills traded up to get a DT. There were 0 DT and only 1 DE picked between their original position and the position they traded up to. Now, it is true that McCargo may have graded significantly higher than the #4 DT in this draft, but in reading the scouting reports it doesn't look that way. One can assume the Bills scouts had a huge drop between McCargo and the next guy and felt some urgency to get ahead of some other team they thought were going to take him. Still, given the way it turned out, the Bills brain trust looks like they were duped or had desperately set their hearts on getting McCargo at all costs.