Low Positive

I get he was a stud in college and at the combine, but he had multiple chances to produce for actual NFL teams, including a good organization in Detroit, and he flamed out in every case. Last year, he couldn't make it off multiple teams' practice squads.

I think he would have been very good if. not for the injuries. I remember his college recruitment process, when Mike Davis F-es it all up by not recruiting Mike Conley. I’m a Hoosiers fan and he was the in-state kid that got away. The first of many.

Jimmer Tebow

I’m a young single man who is going to make millions? LA Rams/Chargers or Falcons.

A more fun game, in both football and basketball, is “college stars who flamed out in the pros.” Tyler Hansborough.

On that note, how about Cody Zeller?

We naming former Euro Pacers? I see your Primoz and raise you Sarunas Jasikevičius.

Lance Stephenson

But he looked good in camp practices. It was pretty much like it is this year with the Bills. Joe Burrow threw one pass in the 2021 preseason, and it was an incomplete to Chase. Other than that, it was Kyle Shrumer throwing the ball. But you saw the electric plays in practice. It was the main topic of conversation on Moe eggar's show that year. Franklin cannot get promoted to even the second string in camp. Not a good sign, but he may just take a bit more time.

By reading reports from camp. The biggest difference between Franklin and other WRs like Coleman and Worthy is that he's not making plays in camp. I realize that a lot of guys make plays in camp and then don't perform in actual games, but not making plays in camp is a red flag.

The one time that KC lost a SB, it was when they ran into Sir Thomas of Brady so the refs decided to call holding on their DBs early in the game.

OK, I'll bite: I'm not that worried about Brady. He had nobody in Carolina, so I don't hold that against him. It's not like anyone did any better with that roster after he was booted. Joe Burrow gives him SOOOOO much credit for his growth and success at LSU and I choose to believe that he'll be OK I have no idea about Babich, but it's still McDermott's defense for better or for worse Injuries suck There is no way that the team will let a kicker tank a season. If Bass misses kicks to start the year they will address it. What I don't understand is why they traded Diggs with no plan to replace him. As a fan, I want STARS at the skill positions. Football is more fun that way. We have no stars, although I think that Shakir and Kincaid could be by the end of this season but that is a big if for a contending team. But I will agree that most of TBD would be ecstatic with a team of Josh Allen and 52 WRs. Last year, the way people talked about #2 WRs you would think that they cured cancer and/or gave BJs.

How about Jack Lambert?

It's even worse in his case because he's from the Cincinnati area, punted at Ohio State, and then was the starting punter for the Bengals during their 2021-2022 run to the AFC Championship game, only to have the team draft his replacement in the following draft. So he got a taste and now can't get back.

Minshew was just named the starter in LV so remove him from the list.

Now I am actually am. bit high so I’m pleasant. Go Bills!!!

No, I'm just in a terrible mood about this team these days. I really don't like the feeling of having no stars on offense except for Josh. It's just not fun.

I don't know anything beyond what I read on Jungle Noise and hear on Moe Eggars' show. They are all really high on him and talk about how Chase holding in is a blessing in disguise because it's getting Burton more reps with Burrow. I'm in a pissy mood and overreacting all over this board this evening.

Pretty much every decision that Beane has made in the past three years or so has been the wrong one.

There are some really possible things that would cause this board to devolve and force someone to start a new board. Worthy develops into a #1 while Coleman is a bust Diggs gets 1,000 yards while talking about how it's nice to play with an accurate passer, Gabe Davis has a good season talking about how Lawrance throws a catchable ball. Josh Allen has a really down year and the media narrative is that he's nothing without Stef. Most of these things are really likely.

Burton has been great in camp. He's been getting first-team reps with Chase holding out. McDermott and his damn character requirements. If you cannot handle a locker room of huge egos and borderline criminals, you cannot be an NFL head coach. It's in the damn job description.

If you hate the Bills so much, why not find another team?

And Leeds United are the Jets. Big market, large fan base, terrible ownership, pure suck.

The Bills would have been relegated in 1984 so no Super Bowl run in the early 90's.

I agree. But you did say never...