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If they move it, it will be a home game for the Browns. Bills fans can't travel and Detroit is not that far from Cleveland.

The Raiders and Bengals are really at a financial disadvantage in relation to other NFL teams because the team is both owners' most valuable asset.

The reason that they fail is that the "Patriot Way" only works if the team has a proven track record of winning. Players are willing to play joyless football if they are consistently competing for championships. Daboll is not doing that in NY. In fact, he's building a Bills-like culture to get player buy-in.

He’s just kissing his Mc. Once he finds that, he’ll be just fine.

Not gonna lie. I kinda miss the snow storms. If we get 2 inches here in Cincinnati, they close the schools and there is a run on milk and eggs at Kroger.

Those Thanksgiving games are in the TV contracts and the networks would never allow them to be moved.

This is actually an interesting point at fan behavior on message boards. I think that we complain about play calling because it is the one aspect of the game that we can imagine ourselves doing. I can't throw the ball 50 yards or run a great route, but I can pick plays in Madden.

Not right now he's not, but nobody thought Andy Reid was a great coach until he got to KC. In fact, Patrick Mahomes is going to put Andy Reid in the HoF.

Based upon another thread, these internal issues may be in the coaching staff.

The problem is that those risky throws into tight coverage were working early in the season. Defenses got it all on film and now they are jumping routes. The Bills need to adjust.

I agree with all of this except that the Bills let Levi Wallace walk. They matched the Pittsburgh offer and Wallace chose the Steelers due to the color of his underwear. He might have stayed if the Bills had overpaid him, but that would have been an equally bad decision.

I don't know, maybe you're right. But Josh can't throw that ball in that situation. But then again, he probably shouldn't have thrown that ball to Knox on the game winning TD against KC.

After every loss, there are multiple threads about McD being "outcoached." People love that word. But McD didn't tell Josh to fumble on the goal line. Dorsey didn't tell Josh to throw an interception in OT. In fact, Ken Dorsey called a play with multiple safe pass options. It was Josh Allen that decided to try to force it in to Gabe. I think that people's default is to blame coaching and play calling because they feel that it is the part of the game that they could do. We all know that we can't throw the ball as far as Josh, but we think that we could call a better play than the ones that don't work. The Bills turned the ball over 4 times yesterday. That's all on the players and that's why they lost this game.

How about McKelvin's muffed punt against KC in Buffalo in 2014.

You see this all the time with serious ACL injuries. The hardest part is learning to trust the knee again. But I do agree that he either needs to retire or start playing. He has been medically cleared for enough time that he has had a training camp's worth of football conditioning. Other guys are going out there playing hurt and he is actually the least injured DB on this team right now.

I would argue that it is the exact opposite. If we were all "bandwagon" fans, we would just stop paying attention and find something else to occupy our Sundays. It's because we care so much and had such high expectations for this season that we are so upset with this team right now. What I'm seeing since the bye week is 2019 Josh Allen. There is also something going on where teams are baiting him into INTs. There have been three over the last three games where a DB is playing slightly off the ball and undreneath in zone coverage. Josh sees what he thinks is a wide open receiver. When he begins his windup, the DB jumps the route. It's like almost the exact same thing three times.

Actually, after seeing this team after the bye week, it would probably be better to play a road playoff game than to give this team a week off.

Remember in 2020, the pattern was great first half, disappearing act in the 3rd, and a comeback in the 4th. Then last year, they seemed to solve that 3rd quarter issue but sometimes started really slow. This second half issue has only appeared since the bye week. So there really is no pattern to this. What is a pattern is that this team seems to come out of the bye week really flat.

It was an emotional loss. People posted some over the top reactions in response to that emotion. I know that I did in the game thread. We all have Trent Edwards PTSD, and these past few games are triggering that. The only solution is for Josh to stop throwing interceptions, and I have no control over that.

Dolphins-Eagles SB?

It might be a little lonely in here tonight. I, and I imagine a lot of Bills fans, am done with football for a few days.

That’s how I felt about 13 seconds, but it took me a week to get there.

I felt like this as the game ended, but I’m starting to move on. But I certainly did feel that way a few hours ago.

And a few of those are the same thing. He's not seeing an underneath defender that's playing slightly off the ball, waiting to jump the route. He just doesn't see it.

Something is wrong with Josh, and its not the elbow. You cannot force that! You can take the tie!!!!!