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I think the comment is referring to the two inside linebacker positions. I wonder if AW will move to strong and Graham or a "Rex" veteran will play free.

I think the big unknown with the oline is coaching and scheme. It's been implied that some of the guys will fit reps scheme better than they fit Marrones which seems odd. We saw a regression in their play, and if dw blames that on the former employees he may ride it out with the guys he has, at least through the first group of otas.

I'm really hoping we play one qb the first half of the year and then a second qb for the rest. That way opposing defenses will not have enough tape/time to fully stop either one. We need to think out of the box in order to overcome our deficit and that's one way to do it.

I've found that looking at a posters history, even if short, is usually a pretty good indicator of intent. In this case I think it was so I would think it's not too much to ask folks to go through that history to get a feel for the poster, especially for how much RI had been talked about on here. And I don't think it's anything against you NO, I think questioning is good but the issue is being dismissive. Similar to just sitting in a bar and discussing it.

i'll be interested to see what type of qb they bring in. A combo of Bradford/Matt Moore is very different from Tyrod Taylor and RG3. And remember people, we have two qb's on this roster so just because we bring someone in doesn't mean they're starting. And as far as I'm concerned, we need bodies and the more talent we get the better off we are. Let the coaches work with them. It's time for "new coach, new qb (and all positions) competition time" - again. Yea.

I think as long as he's healthy and winning he'll want to play. I hope the bills will be integral to his decision to retire earlier than he wants to.

Yes, but it's part of the game at this point. Twitter, all the social media, fans want to hear from players even more now is my point.

Unfortunately it is so far gone thousands of fans were paying $28.50 a piece to be there.

Sounds like a toddler to me, lots of parents have had a go around with this type of behavior. If it bothers him so much he shouldn't play or just pay the fine. The media is part of the NFL and one of the reasons for all the money he gets paid.

Do you know if he wore knee braces, especially for the second one?

That would be a bad assumption.

I'm not going be surprised if they sign Pears over Hairston because he's been healthier during his career. I am thinking a two year deal as a backup with incentives. He will have more time to work on his technique (he moved to guard late in the preseason last year) and hopefully get some better coaching. As you said, his age may cause that not to happen, but I won't be on here wailing about it. To me it looks like Glenn, Williams, Wood, Urbik, Henderson with Kujo, Richardson and Pears/Hairston to start the offseason with.as the primary Oline. Not saying they won't add another guy or two, but since Whaley has had a hand in a lot of these guys it may be very similar in July. I think Rivers and probably one of the te's will go, Wynn doesn't get resigned. I also think Boobie is at risk depending on how Roman views him from their time in sf. There was a reason Boobie left SF, and SF kept drafting guys so I assume Roman doesn't see much value in Boobie. I really hope we will get to a point where we try to resign our own guys and not bring in many FA's, more like what Pittsburgh does. That means sticking with a coach and front office personnel longer to provide the stability to get guys signed to their second contract.

It will be interesting to see who Chan gets as his qb. I don't know if either of the guys there will do well in the offense. If I remember correctly Fitz was learning it for at least a couple offseasons until he had full command of it. Vick might be able to pick it up relatively quickly, but it could be difficult for Geno being so young.

The only thing I have observed about how they felt was bringing in Jordan Palmer in the preseason. He is certainly a mentor type qb and was not a threat to start. It seemed like Marrone complained that he needed someone who could push and/or start because EJ wasn't ready and he didn't want to put EJ on the field yet. So Orton was brought in as an upgrade to Palmer in the short term interest of winning. It will be interesting to see who they bring in. I hope they bring in someone who could start and someone to push Tuel also.

I think we put his feet in concrete boots and we may have something. I don't know how some of those balls even got close to his targets.

I am absolutely serious. CJ does not punish people at the second level. He does not look for contact near the line of scrimmage and as far as I can tell Brown is the same way with less talent. And I would be interested to find out exactly how Dixon feels since he came from SF and from what I recall, never really developed a large role under Roman. But I think Freddie's happy, he's more of the type of guy they need. So you've got that going for you, and that's nice.

I think he cares more about playing well than a big money deal at this point. Paramount to that is a coach who can bring out the best in his talents. I don't think the double R's have shown that they can do that with a player like CJ. Chan, on the other hand has.

I agree it makes sense that Jones will start the year, but I will interested to see how much rope Jones gets if things don't go "national championship" well.

During the recruiting process the player needs to determine the correct place to for them to learn. There are many factors but at least the player makes the choice given the coach and the institution as a package. Kind of like a non-athlete student, looking to get the most for their money from the time in college.

Urban's kind of tied to it now, although the goal is to win games. Luckily Elliot will still there to help. I was just reading that Jones still came to OSU even though Tressel left, so really he's made his own bed with Urban. Hope it works out for him.

So you don't think when recruiting that Urban looks for a certain type of qb? Do you think a Russel Wilson and Tom Brady are inter-changeable? I think the college coaches ave their "system" and they go after players to fit what they're doing to try and win as many games as possible. Some skills are interchangeable but from a qb standpoint I think the requirements are a little more stringent, especially if you have a system that works. Would you say that the classes you take in school don't matter? What a students strengths and weaknesses are? Aren't you trying to learn something to help you in the future? And don't you think what you're being taught matters? The coach does not have the responsibility to do anything for the player other than win games for the school. I think when a player commits to a coach you assume they have done the homework to understand what a coach brings to the table in terms of the players career possibilities. And I'm okay with that. My problem is that when a coach changes the player may or may not be released from their commitment free from penalty and I think that stinks for the player. It didn't seem like Jones gets on the field without the two injuries, so what does that say about how Urban views him? Hey, I hope it works out for the kid, but I happen to think he could work on his football skills at the professional level and be further ahead than playing at OSU under Urban Myer.

The education will be there regardless! He can even do both! He will not always be a 20 something year old athlete with an opportunity to play in the nfl. Looking at Urban's record for developing qb's, it seems to imply he is not maximizing his opportunity to play football at a professional level. I hope he makes it anyway but I don't think he is giving himself the best chance, that's all.

I think he would be in a much better place a year from now if he was coached by professionals whose livelihood depended on him getting better. School will be there regardless when he was ready to go back. Because really, the only reason to go back to school at this point is to make more money as a football player. Nothing high and mighty about it.

I think that was just a symptom of the disconnect. Jordan Palmer is someone who is a good mentor and would not push as much for playing time while was Orton less of mentor and more of a challenge. Which I assume the screaming means that Marrone was not happy with what Monos/Whaley did when Marrone asked for a veteran qb. So DM wants someone who will be able to play because EJ can't win games and DW stills wants EJ to play. Hence the screaming, which is okay behind closed doors is not great out in the open because it means they were not resolved behind closed doors. With the way Rex operates and the org structure, we're probably going to have some similar situations. It will be interesting to see how T/KP handles anything that isn't "external unity".

I don't know why, after all Urban Meyer has done nothing but send qb's in to the nfl ranks. /end sarcasm