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I don't know if I'd call what we were doing swinging and missing for a franchise qb.

I was on campus those first two years, tower b then tower c. Had to call the team the second year because in the lottery for housing and I was getting ready to come to camp and didn't have a room yet. They were able to get me that tower c room. I think the extra travel time would suck for practice, I've been to a couple of games and the feel is just different. I don't know how the students work it, but I know the frats on the hill used to roll into the student section feeling no pain, that was always good for the atmosphere. 😁 I have to assume it's good for recruiting, but I'm with you, it's not better on gameday.

Hail to Pitt! Good stuff getting some money, I know it isn't the easiest thing to do. I walked on for a couple years in 86 and 87 as a kicker. We were pretty successful, beat Penn state at home, went to bowl games both years. Some good players and coaches were on those teams. It was the first two years of Mike Gottfried era. Then walked on the soccer team but that didn't work out.

For some reason I have this image of a high school aged teef running around and throwing little kids aside as he scored a touchdown - AGAIN!

Sure, but I don't see that being the case here. At least it looks like the Bills are doubtful, because as you pointed out, he didn't seem to get on the field much when he was healthy. I'm thinking it will be in the Bills interest to play him a lot in the preseason to see if he can hold up but given the past it seems likely he won't. It will also be telling if we draft someone for that backup mlb spot too.

I guess the answer to the question posed by the op might be: injury release.

McKenzie looked decent when given an opportunity, but he wasn't given much of an opportunity. Have to assume he was not trusted at some level, maybe not being on the same page with Josh or not trusting him with the ball. Like I thought it was interesting Hyde returned punts when Roberts got hurt. If McKenzie can't do that I have to lead toward us not really wanting to re-sign him.

The fact Beane was bringing wr's in during the year leads me to believe he's got some more work to do in the room. I don't know if an injury in 2020 is enough to get Brown a reduced contract or even let go, seems to me like it shouldn't. I think this will be an interesting decision for Beane though, judging by the way Beane structures the contracts it seems like he gives himself a < 2million dead cap hit to cut guys and Brown is definitely in that boat so it wouldn't surprise me if he approaches brown about a salary reduction. Just seems like he'd be creating a hole if he cuts brown, especially if there is no one else that has speed. I do believe we need a player to be able to step into the brown backup role by bringing some speed before approaching brown. The question is where do you put him. In a best case scenario I think we draft someone with really good speed that can also play wr and they take the spot of roberts and mckenzie. That leaves enough room for davis and hodgins to develop with the hope that some one on the roster can back up beasley.

What we need is a gatekeeper to social media, someone to say, "no, you can't put that out there, it's a paper story only."

He figure four leg locks them.

I don't know - given the cash outlay we're going to have for Josh maybe 2 or 3 years fits the cap strategy better than a 5 year deal especially with free agents. Most of the guys who are decent pass rushers will not be looking for short deals. I think it would also push pass rushing down the list of needs a little, at least for next year. And if he plays 3TDT a little so be it, looks like he can handle it.

I haven't seen it yet, but I'm sure the Mario Addison 2020 highlights will put these to shame.

Great, now I'm thinking our big "weapon" FA acquisition this offseason is going to be a fullback. That's depressing.

Yeah, I was thinking a little photoshop and it's ready to go.

Yeah, Star is like a backup qb right now. Unfortunately we don't have anyone that makes the players around him better in the front 7. We do need at least one if we're going to contend at the highest levels. Don't think epenesa is that guy either.

Wonder if we were in the mix for Dunlap.

Would like to have re-signed him already, probably too late now. As Josh gets better an uber talented oline becomes less necessary, so we have that going for us.

Might be a cookie on your machine from a test run, maybe try clearing them.

Would love it if he turned into the #4 cb, would mean there's some talent in front of him

It's not just his weight, he was letting guys get into his body and control him and that's more of a mental thing. Hapless had posted earlier in this thread (in the single digit pages I think) his pros and cons during the pre-draft e v a l. One of the items in the con was him having trouble recognizing the play which is what I saw at times this year. He needs to be able to stop guys from getting into him and until he does that it won't matter what weight he is. Hopefully the playing time he got will help him elevate his game. I am thinking he can do it, and I think if he does he will exceed the expectations of most folks on this board.

I thought Beane said he didn't put weight on during the season? I think he will end up being a very good end in our system. I liked his twitch and almost got Mahomes on the one play. He just needs time on the field.

You'll never know, don't include the rest of us.

Cleveland needs lbs too