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I don't know about the big receiver need. I just remember looking at the Rams box score from when Warner was tearing it up and thinking, who the heck are these people catching touchdowns? No big names, just every te and fb on the roster seemed to catch a td during those years. I think they're going to give Robert Royal a chance to be the big receiver and see where it takes them. Since (hopefully) he doesn't have to hold Pennington's hand this year.

Good point, I'm sure Houston regrets not getting some Bush last year. Like you said, it comes down to what OBD thinks of the players that are available in the draft and I understand that you are saying about players available later. Including that the drop between Lynch and Bush/Hunt/Irons seems to be steeper than the drop from Willis/Harris or whoever. Not to mention the difference between the our current players and the draftees. I would love to sit a room with the Bills to hear how they're ranking these players. From what I have heard about this defense, the MLB is a coveted player and highly sought after. If OBD thinks Willis can be a difference maker, I would value him over Lynch even if they think Lynch can be a quality every down back. In the end, they'll probably both be there but end up going with Levi Brown or Darelle Revis.

Sure, anything can happen. I just don't want to take a rb with the first pick because we "need" one. There are options out there even this year, and I think a FA rb and a draft speedster will mesh fine with what we have now. I guess my point is I don't see many FA's out there for other positions, and I would rather hold off on spending the high pick on a rb this year if possible. Even if next years class sucks, OBD could work something like a trade or FA pickup. I also think the team would come together better in 2008 because generally the rb can step in quickly and I would rather have a year of experience for a presumably better lb/cb/dt. So you would have more players on a better learning curve for 2008 and I don't think it would cost too much for 2007.

If you look at a two year process, a third down back makes sense. If you fill holes on the defensive side this year and take a 3rd down back with lots of speed, next year you can grab a top rb with a top pick and have a nice 1-2 combo. I think you have to fill areas on the first day keeping in mind where this class is deep, including a WR. Let's get some quality players on defense again lb/cb/1 tech DT on the first day. Then look for a 3rd down back and a lb project on the second because we have enough lb depth but not enough quality. Hopefully with the other first day pick someone will fall to us that is good value, just about any position other than DE.

Being on this list has little to do with whether the players will get picked, more about where they end up in the pre-draft ordering. It merely suggests that the work done so far for these prospective picks has left the staff with questions they want to clarify. Or they want someone to think they're interested, etc. If I remember correctly, they didn't talk to Whitner. I guess they didn't need to.

Let's throw Spikes to the Lions as well and then we don't have to worry about getting all of our holes plugged. We'll just create more as we go.

This stuff was cut off Marshawn's attempt to win the Heisman and produced by Cal's media department so it's hardly a non-biased source. That notwithstanding, I agree with you and let the staff pick the best player. I think Lynch may be the one available and he seems like a good fit in a lot of ways. It seems like he is a "Marshall Faulk" type and has the winning character Marv wants.

And it also increases the chances that GB can get one of the top two RB's in the first round.

I guess you're not a fan of Marv's draft last year then because they went opposite of that. Doesn't it make sense to address needs in the first and take best available later on the first day? I would hazard a guess that NC might still be here if they had gone needs with the Youboty/Simpson picks last year. I hope they sign an older cb in FA, we need someone in the secondary that can help all the young players. Preferably someone who has experience in this defense and is good enough to compete for a starting job. I'm thinking they could also pull the trigger on L Brown in the first round if he can play RT. If that happens you'll definitely see robert royal catch some balls this year.

I can't tell you what team sees a player as a can't miss, but you have to look at what Stl and to a lesser degree Car need. I think if Quinn falls someone could try for him to keep him away from Car but would offer low with the hopes that StL would deal. If someone likes a CB or a DE that falls they could try and keep that player from Stl. The others are Okoye and Willis that I think both Car and Stl could take. Of course if the latter two were passed on this board would implode under the pressure.

If we can get a second or higher for him great. I don't know if teams see that much potential in him, although I guess it just takes one. I think McGahee would have to agree on an extension before the picks get really high. Hopefully Rosendork will play ball. I don't think he will have a monster year sharing carries with anonther back. I assume the Bills will bring in an rb to catch the ball out of the backfield and if he's also the first/second down type Willis could be sharing offensive series. If they sign someone like Chris brown, have A train on board and a young back, I think that's enough. Especially with a revamped line. Hopefully it will be a lot easier to make those 3rd and shorts next year. Wouldn't we rather have the future back running behind a better line? Maybe start taking carries away from the other backs toward the end of the year like Addai did in 06? With the Edge comparison, wouldn't you rather have the pick than just let WM go? Lynch could be a far better back than Willis and in 2008 he'll be hitting his stride after getting 30% of the 2007 carries. If he is a bust, you have another chance at the draft before you really need a starter. The third could net you a decent player that will contribute in the 08-11 seasons. The big unknown for me is what they think of the players that could be available at 12. If the need players are gone, who do you take? Maybe Lynch is rated the best player available and you take him irregardless of Mcgahee's status? So get the high third for WM and move on. As far as progressing, this team will progress with or without Willis. Sure you'd like to see him help, but say he does become a key component of the offense and we lean on him during the year. What about JP? I would rather see JP lead the team in their progression at this point than a lame duck running back. I think it will do more for the Bills in 2008 if JP works on being the go to guy in 2007. I just want first downs out of WM to keep drives alive.

I think you do a draft day trade, maybe even in the first. Move Willis for a high third (at least) and move rb up as a need player, probably using your first. If they get another pick in that third round they could leverage that to get a guy they want by moving up/into the second round. So far they've been pretty good picking talent, so you may as well load up the gun. Just a thought. I think the only way you don't move him given a decent (high third) offer is if you think you're Super bowl bound or you can sign him. I don't think either will happen. And I don't see him carrying the load because Marv has already said there will be somone else in the backfield. I don't think Marv & co want to sign him anyway, because something would have been done by now especially if you only have a limited amount of money. I think this offense needs a guy that can block, catch and run and Willis is proven under multiple coaches he isn't that guy. Good running back, just not quite what we're looking for. I haven't heard anything about Green Bay being interested. It seems they need a rb and could be a suitor. Anyone have a reason why not?

The two things I took away from the press conference on Feb 16th was that Marv didn't like the OL and LB play. Looks like the OL was addressed. That leaves LB and it seems like he is the logical pick although I wouldn't be disappointed with an OLB, WR or CB. I hope we trade down this year because we could use another first day pick. With the activity this year Marv & co are saying we'll deal. Hopefully they'll leave enough doubt in other GM's minds that someone will not take a chance and trade up. I think the conversion to their flavor of the cover 2 will be almost complete this year.

Since it's already decided he can't play OL but he can block kicks, the answer is obvious! Here comes our run stopping DT! Let's open camp right now!!!

I wonder if Marv and RW will decide they need to go for it and spend the cash on Nate and a top free agent. Probably not. What about francising him? Pay him the average of the top five cb's for another year and see what we have in Youboty?

Ummm...I think a good right guard would have gotten us into the playoffs this year. A problem with this defense (tampa 2) is they wear down toward the end of the game if they've been pounded on. That means you have to be ahead in the fourth quarter and you do that by passing and defending the pass. You get some yards with the running game, but you can't get into a 13-10 game and expect to win most of the time. So whatever it takes for Losman to get out of the three step offense will be good. How many of those rushing yards against occurred in the 4th quarter with the Bills down? Put some more points on the board and the rush defense will magically get better. A guard will help you get first downs and that will help. But we need help at the skill positions as well. Upgrading more than one position on the lines with a 1st round draft pick/expensive free agent has a better chance of keeping us out of the playoffs. See Min this year, nice lines, great run defense - done for the season.

Who's money was being offered? Do you think that was TD's call all the way, or was RW capping him? TD did some bad work in player acquisitions but you can't lay the blame totally on him for PW.

We had a lot of picks in the last 5 years that amounted to nothing, don't pick on the oline. So far this year, I think Marv's draft has exceeded each of those prior drafts. If young guys don't know the system they aren't going to play. Coaches would rather have someone who doesn't match up physically than someone who misses assignments. Or say if you're Willis and you don't block well you're not going to see much time on third down. Although they're trying it with him this year. Too big of a risk for sack/fumble or other bad things, man. While the lines need to be good, they aren't the end all be all. See the Vikings this year. Nice lines, not a good record. I do think Stienbach would be a great pickup because of his versitility, his talent and he fits a need. We would pay dearly for him though, but probably worth it. Considering we just got three DT's this year, I think a pass rushing DE to help the young secondary is in order. Classic Tampa 2 end, Simeon Rice type. I don't know where he comes from, but there could be a good one in the first round. My other thought for a 1st round pick is a wr. I think everyone agreed in the preseason that we had a starter and a bunch of number three's. A threat on the other side would help the offense more than an OL, assuming we got Stienbach. Imagine if Evans becomes your number two wr. Somebody should be able to chuck the ball downfield near one of those two guys. I don't think Posluzsny is the correct type of linebacker for the defense and we don't have a big enough hole at LB to fill with a 1st round MLB. MAYBE he'll be there, someone will want him and we'll trade down and pick up some more picks. Maybe. We won't take a safety, that's for sure.

How about you take a billion a year or so off the TV deals and just lower the ridiculous amount of money the owners and players are paid? What are the chances of that happening? If the NFL had it's fans in mind that's exactly what it should do. That's what any business should do, let alone a business that basically has a monoply. Sometimes I wish there was a way to get people together and pressure the NFL to do the right thing, but there's no vehicle to do that. I guess in a few decades they will be so full of themselves (see MLB) they'll just start to fade away. It's the American way. As for a new stadium for the Bills, taxpayers won't stop that from happening. Pittsburgher's voted down using taxpayer money to fund a stadium. Still happened. And still happened with tax money. A perfectly good stadium that still had the original purchase price owed on it (after 30 years) was blown up because it was "only" about $100 million more to build a whole new stadium rather than upgrade it. The owners will "prove" the value to whatever politicians will listen, talk about how they need to do what's best for the franchise and there will be a new stadium. I feel better now. Now that I'm a homeowner/growing up, election time gets me all fired up. Something about people wasting all my hard earned money. I'm very anti-incumbent this year.

Not that past performance is indicitive of future results, but: from KFFL Jaguars | Fast fact: Taylor enjoys playing Steelers Sat, 16 Sep 2006 07:58:34 -0700 Michael C. Wright, of the Florida Times-Union, reports Jacksonville Jaguars RB Fred Taylor has scored more touchdowns versus the Pittsburgh Steelers (eight) than any other NFL team. Taylor also rushed for a career-high 234 yards versus the Steelers during the 2000 season. He seems to play well against the Steelers, he's had some good games. And he seems to be healthy. If you don't get the word on Portis, he could do something for you.

I agree with what you're thinking, dump Gore and pick up TO. You don't have another WR whose a threat to score TD's regularly. I get tired of the "you have to have two great rb's" all the time. There's only so many, and you're lucky to have one. It comes down to how different will your other rb's will be from gore vs the diff of To and one of your other wr's. TO could be a top receiver and you will not be able to say that about any of your secondary rb's. You are looking for more of a leg up anywhere on your roster, wr's included. You've got to believe TO will give you a bigger point differential over Driver/Williams than gore over brown/taylor.

I thought he said: All you people are saying I'm too old for this, but I can still turn a cliche into something that makes Webster proud and makes a whole lot of people think. So don't doubt me because Jerry Bulter and a whole lot of other people have learned a heck of a lot from me.

From KFFL: Lions | Cullen went to Wendy's nude Fri, 8 Sep 2006 20:29:49 -0700 Jim Schaefer and Nicholas J. Cotsonika, of the Detroit Free Press, reports Detroit Lions defensive line coach Joe Cullen pulled his SUV up to a drive-thru window at Wendy's and placed an order in the nude Aug. 24. The worker took down Cullen's license plate number and told Dearborn officer that "the suspect did nothing obscene, other than being naked at the drive-thru." Wendy's manager Jethro Lett was working the second drive-thru window and said, "The cashier alerted me. 'A guy coming to your window is naked!'" He asked Cullen to pull over to wait for his food and brought his order out five minutes later. "He didn't say a word. I said, 'Here you go with your food, sir.'" It is unknown why Cullen was driving naked or if he will face additional discipline from the team or the league. Cullen: Yep, just out gettin' a burger and a frosty. It's HOT out here. Jethro: You want fries with that? Good luck motivating your players bud.

I'm this big and he was that big too!!! Isn't that lovely!

Now you're talkin' CRAZY!!! I like the points. Usually BB gameplans a team to make them play "left-handed". I think he will have trouble putting his game plan together because he won't have a ton of info regarding the blocking schemes and tendencies of the Bills offense because this mix of coaches is new. If the Bills come out strong and can move the ball they can keep it close. Plus picking up Seau and plugging him right in seems to be a reach. Not to mention scrambling for Gabriel and plugging him right in also. JP just needs to stay away from bad turnovers, run for a few first downs and take what they give him.