And his second season in the league? Without those coaches listed, without any real wide recievers? Yeah the defense played well that year, but he went into Green Bay and did something no one ever did before. Yeah he's not a fantasy football king, or even a conventional quarterback, but he is very valuable to that team winning. When he came back from injury 2 years ago, his team went something like 4-2 after losing most of their games without him.