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Global Warming...
elegantelliotoffen replied to Alaska Darin's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
I thought you were the expert on cherry picking! -
Global Warming...
elegantelliotoffen replied to Alaska Darin's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
I wish I could see you right now, you probably have steam coming out of your ears! -
Global Warming...
elegantelliotoffen replied to Alaska Darin's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
I'm sorry for calling you out and exposing your intellectual laziness but you insisted that I read your earlier threads on global warming. I know it's embarassing for you but maybe you can learn from this. -
Global Warming...
elegantelliotoffen replied to Alaska Darin's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
Wow, how come you don't seem so smart when you can't copy and paste out of context passages of articles that you obviously didn't read. -
Global Warming...
elegantelliotoffen replied to Alaska Darin's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
Can you name one scientific body that denies the existence of global warming? Because I only found one (The petroleum geologists, extremely credible). Forgive me for believing scientists over Ringlings Clown College =grad Penn Gillette and radio host Glenn Beck. -
Global Warming...
elegantelliotoffen replied to Alaska Darin's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
So in other words you lied, you never read anything more than the abstract. -
Global Warming...
elegantelliotoffen replied to Alaska Darin's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
I could care less about Al Gore's opinion on global warming, in fact I've never seen his movie. Can you please copy and paste the full article so that I may read them? -
Last Night's Colbert Report with Nas
elegantelliotoffen replied to justnzane's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
That's no big deal, I've seen tons of people do the same thing. -
Not exactly http://www.gallup.com/poll/109102/Gallup-D...-McCain-40.aspx
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080728/ap_on_...BgovYymp7NH2ocA KNOXVILLE, Tenn. - An unemployed man accused of opening fire with a shotgun and killing two people at a Unitarian church apparently targeted the congregation out of hatred for its support of liberal social policies, police said Monday. Knoxville Police Chief Sterling Owen IV said a signed, four-page letter written by Jim D. Adkisson, 58, was found in his small SUV in the church parking lot. Authorities said he was an apparent stranger to the Tennessee church where gunfire punctuated a children's performance based on the musical "Annie." Two people were killed and seven wounded Sunday. "It appears that what brought him to this horrible event was his lack of being able to obtain a job, his frustration over that and his stated hatred of the liberal movement," Owen said at a news conference. No children were hurt, but five people remained in serious or critical condition Monday. A burly usher who died is being hailed as a hero for shielding others from gunfire at the Tennessee Valley Unitarian Universalist Church. Witnesses said some of the church members wrestled the suspect to the ground after he pulled a shotgun from a guitar case and fired three times. Adkisson, who is charged with one count of first-degree murder, remained jailed Monday under "close observation" on $1 million bail, authorities said. More charges were expected. The Unitarian-Universalist church promotes progressive social work, including advocacy of women and gay rights. The Knoxville congregation also has provided sanctuary for political refugees, fed the homeless and founded a chapter of the American Civil Liberties Union, according to its Web site. Owen said the letter indicated Adkisson, who neighbors said had previously worked as a truck driver, did not expect to leave the church alive. He added the man reported having no family or next-of-kin. "He certainly intended to take a lot of casualties," Owen said. "He had 76 rounds with him." Police said Adkisson carried a 12-gauge semiautomatic shotgun into the church in a guitar case, but it appeared no specific person was targeted. A search of his house also turned up a .38-caliber handgun, Owen added. Owen said authorities believe the suspect had gone to the Unitarian church because of "some publicity in the recent past regarding its liberal stance on things." Unitarians have roots in a movement that rejected Puritan orthodoxy in New England. Although individual Unitarian churches can vary dramatically in outlooks, most congregations retain a deep commitment to social justice, which has led many to embrace liberal stances on the ordination of women, civil rights and gay rights. Adkisson lived in a surburb north of Knoxville, about a 20 minutes' drive from the Unitarian church in an established neighborhood of older homes and several other houses of worship. The police chief said the shotgun was bought at a pawn shop about a month ago and Adkisson wrote the letter in the last week or so. But he added: "I am sure this is something that has been building a long time in terms of his anger." He said the state recently sent a letter to Adkisson telling him food stamps he had been receiving would be reduced or eliminated. Investigators were reviewing several video recordings of the performance by parents and church members. Owen said police would not release the videos nor Adkisson's letter until they have been entered into evidence. The shooting started as about 200 people watched a show put on by 25 children. Church member Mark Harmon said he was in the first row when he heard "an incredibly loud bang." He thought the noise was part of the play, then he heard another bang and saw a woman bleeding as he dove for cover. "It seems so unreal," Harmon said. Church members praised Greg McKendry, 60, saying he attempted to block the gunfire. Barbara Kemper said that McKendry, who died, "stood in the front of the gunman and took the blast to protect the rest of us." Kemper said the gunman shouted before he opened fire, though police said others didn't recall him saying anything. "It was hateful words. He was saying hateful things," she said, refusing to elaborate. "Greg McKendry was a very large gentleman, one of those people you might describe as a refrigerator with a head," said church member Schera Chadwick. "He looked like a football player. He did obviously stand up and put himself in between the shooter and the congregation." A second victim who died hours later was identified as Linda Kraeger, 61. Officials said Adkisson was arraigned Sunday night and faces his next court hearing Aug. 5. The shooting follows a December 2007 spree in which a man shot four staff members at a missionary training center near Denver, Colo., killing two, after being told he couldn't spend the night. About 12 hours later and 65 miles away in Colorado Springs, police say the 24-year-old man fatally shot a parishioner at a megachurch and wounded four others before killing himself.
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Global Warming...
elegantelliotoffen replied to Alaska Darin's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
I actually like Penn Gillette, he was on Stern a few months ago and he was great. I wasn't the one who started the Nas/ Colbert thread. -
Global Warming...
elegantelliotoffen replied to Alaska Darin's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
Don't listen to me, don't listen to Penn Gillette, don't listen to Al Gore, listen to American Association for the Advancement of Science The American Physical Society The Joint Science Academies at the 2008 G8 Summit International Council of Academies of Engineering and Technological Sciences The National Research Council Federation of American Scientists World Meteorogical Organization American Meteorogical Society International Union of Geological Sciences Geological Society of America American Geophysical Union American Astronomical Society The EPA The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration NASA American Institute of Physics Stephen Hawking (I know he's no Penn Gillette but.....) The CIA and the Pentagon American Chemical Society The Union of Concerned Scientists Flimsy San FranciscoTreehugger Pat Robertson Far left radical socialist John McCain And none other than George Bush himself!!! Now for the only scientific body that denies global warming- The American Association of Petroleum Geologists!!!!!! -
Last Night's Colbert Report with Nas
elegantelliotoffen replied to justnzane's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
What was the Rather slip-up? -
Global Warming...
elegantelliotoffen replied to Alaska Darin's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
I see alot of Op-Ed pieces yet NO scientific research! Is this going to become a contest to see who can link to more articles? I bet I could win! By the way, Penn Gillette is one of your sources? Are you kidding me? You're trying to refute global warming by using the opinion of a graduate of Ringling Brothers and Barnum & Bailey Clown College!!!!! -
Last Night's Colbert Report with Nas
elegantelliotoffen replied to justnzane's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
Looks like I stumped you!!!!!!!!!!!! I'll save you some time and make your response for you - "far left liberal liberal far left socialist marxist far left left wing blah blah blah blah" -
Well, this was a good trade...
elegantelliotoffen replied to Beerball's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
Is Darwin Walker still on the Bears? -
Global Warming...
elegantelliotoffen replied to Alaska Darin's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
You don't think that if you're providing a "summary" (more like a cherry picked out of context sentence from the abstract) you should also provide the source and date. Even you said yourself that you didn't expect many people to go to the links and read for themselves. "I'm not sure what posts you're referring to but when you post things on this forum, you have to consider the audience. There are not more than a handful of people here who are capable or willing to read much more than a summary." Considering this and the fact that this forum is used to discuss current events it gives the impression that you were trying to deceive readers into believing that these were brand new studies. By the way, I've cherry picked some lines from these studies as well. The records show that the warmest year recorded in this century occurred in 1998, the warmest 10 years in succession occurred in 1989–98, and the warmest decade is expected to be the 1990s. Surface air temperatures have indeed been reported to be on the rise in many stations in Antarctica, especially in the Antarctic peninsula, where the trends are as high as 0.5°C decade Whether the ultimate cause of temperature increase is excess CO2, or a different orbit, or some other factor probably doesn't matter much. It could have been one or the other, or different combinations of factors at different times in the past. The effect is still the same. Nevertheless, the scientific consensus is that Greenhouse Trace Gases account for at least half of temperature increases, and that they strongly amplify the effects of small increases in solar radiation due to orbital forcing. Unfortunately the other 3 articles require you to PAY to read more than just the abstract (By the way drawing conclusions from a scientific article after reading ONLY the abstract is a big no-no). -
For those of you interested in "Global" warming
elegantelliotoffen replied to Peter's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
Yes I do. Yes I have. Yes I have. -
Global Warming...
elegantelliotoffen replied to Alaska Darin's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
What makes these studies so effective in your opinion?