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Reed drops Balls!

....& If Joe Burns.... Don't cut him.

....also you can box your bets. Basically you bet that the Bills, Rams & whoever all cover the spread. The money accumulates....though you have to get every pick correct.

This week I would guess the odds for the Bills winning straight up would be around 3 to 1. That means if you bet your $100 & the Bills win, you get $300(or 4 depending on which system is used). If the Bills lose....you lose your $100. Australian bookies have bets this way most of the time. The lines for this weeks American Football games are not up yet though.

Where have you been living for the past 10, 20, 30+ etc years?? The entertainment industry has always been aimed at the masses(read morons) since in the end, it is about making money. The WW is an absolutely brilliant show. I've seen the pilot for Heroes & it was a lot of fun. It does not matter (& never has) which show is better/cleverer/makes more sense/is worth more/etc/etc....what matters is what people will watch. If you think this attitude is new in any way, I think you might be deluding yourself. Just look at hollywood movies over the decades & you'll find that 90%+ of any era is fairly rubbish storytelling. If anything, I'd say the overall quality of TV programs has increased quite a bit over the last 2 decades. What do you think your culture was/is?

TOTAL Money Line. If you bet $0.55 on both teams you will win back $1.

I'm guessing it's something to do with betting on the football. Is a pro allowed to be on college games?

I tend to agree. Why are people wanting to get rid of him right now anyway? He is our #2 QB. Yes he has a noodle arm. Yes he looked bad in preseason....apart from the last one. I'm hopeful (but nervous) about JP. If JP gets injured, who believes Nall will step in & be MR BACKUP? I feel we could sniff at the playoffs this season.....with Nall or some newcomer(who is obviously not as good as KH since we can just pick him up & not have to trade for him) backing up, I would be feeling exceedingly nervous.

Now that was funny!

but, but, but.....but. If Miami get an extra win more than what I thought they would they'll have one less loss!

You obviously don't know what you are talking about.

I don't. The currant regime at NE seems to be on the ball in it's assessments of all things football. I think they know they are in for a close game next Sunday.

To make it even easier for the Fins.....Ward might be out as well (hamstring) LINK

Don't be scared Frez. It'll be alright.

You know, in 6 weeks time my hope & optimism might be quashed. Until that happens(& I'm not assuming it will), your logic is as sound as any(& better than most) & I am jumping aboard right next to you. Possible play-offs!!!! GO BILLS!!!!

I'm sorry to see him beat you down to conceding. Not in defense of Wire...more that your basic point about vilifying backup players. I have far more understanding of the spreading of abuse towards stars with attitude rather than backups with not enough talent. A star with head problems puts himself before the team & if they stuff up....deserve vilification. A backup(like Wire) probably tries their best for the team(& themselves) to get the best out of their lesser abilities. When they fail....why do they get abused? I have never understood that mentality. It's one thing to feel the team would be better without Wire(it's part of the job of being a fan to second guess the coach)...it's another thing to 'hate' said player for his lack of talent.

Hi all, thanks for the congrats etc. Please people, don't lock me into the 'TD defender' category. Though I do think we have some really good talent(& potential talent), I was purposefully a bit rose coloured glasses on some of the one liners I wrote for the players. I was also quite disingenuous only addressing the starter. I think having 20 new players out of 53 is perhaps more indicative of how it really is. Please forgive me for those who might have gotten annoyed at this thread. I was getting the impression that a few on the wall were perhaps getting a bit antsy leading up to the start of the new season & figured this was a great way to vent & get the last of the frustrations out about the past regime before we truly head into the new regime. I hope everyone takes it as the tongue in cheek attempt to help vent frustrations that I intended.....if not....too bad I guess. I am truly ready for some football! GO BILLS!!!

From all accounts MM is a very stand up honorable guy. I always felt that (perhaps due to this) he was given the opportunity to resign(& save some face) rather than be ingloriously sacked. Pure speculation on my part but seems to be the sort of thing that Marv might do.

For my 1000th post I thought I would add a bit of controversy to the wall. Many here are starting to get enthused about the upcoming season with most predicting 7, 8 or 9 wins for us. Considering there is a totally new(apart from ST) coaching regime, this implies that the talent level on the team is not too bad & in fact could be quite good. This being the situation, do all you people realize you are basically saying that TD did at the very least a reasonable job of player talent evaluation? That's right, TD left this team with a lot of decent-good players & a young core of potential greats. Let's look at TDs starters for the 2006 season. 7 of 11 offensive 9 of 11 defensive 3 of 3 specialists 1st round picks....4 QB Losman: Unproven but this off-season has give many here reason for hope. Shows glimmers of greatness. RB McGahee: The only player apart from Spikes that the media recognize as a legitimate stud. WR Evans: Has shown he is the real deal....pro bowl this year? CB Clements: PRO BOWLER 2nd round picks....2 DE Schoebel: Just under pro bowl level. DE Kelsay: OK to this point, could step up in the new system. 3rd round picks....2 DT Anderson: 3rd year & looks well suited to new system. Will hold his own. OLB Crowell: Very solid player. 4th-7th round picks....1 CB/KR McGee: PRO BOWLER Free Agents....8 FB Shelton: Looked great in 2004 RG Villarrial: Super solid(when uninjured) LT Gandy: Most believe was maligned last season, showing himself to be very solid. ILB Fletcher: Just under pro bowl level. OLB Spikes: PRO BOWLER FS Vincent: Led the team in INTs last season. K Lindell: Very Solid LS Schneck: PRO BOWLER UDFA....2 RT Peters: Up & coming star. P Moorman: PRO BOWLER I know I've been a bit rose coloured glasses here & I have also been a little disingenuous perhaps but.....there is no escaping the fact that TD was not too bad at evaluating talent. O.K. Fire Away!

We are not a rebuilding team.....though I can see why you, with your signature line would think so. 7 of 11 offense TDs guys 9 of 11 defense TDs guys 3 of 3 specialists TDs guys We are a 'building' team. Also.... As 34-78-83 said, why is JP not a younger player too?

I think a lot of people here are stuck in the time when he was a starter.....or the time of living in fear he would start. Wire is a 3rd string SS & starting STer. In Levy's book, he states that around 6 players should be on the roster for their ST abilities. Wire is surely one of these players. He will probably rarely see the field anyway. The drop off in SS play between Wire & another 3rd string SS would (on average) be minimal but the drop off would be (on average) much greater for ST play. This is one of the reasons why we are #1 in ST.

I was waiting for the punch line & it didn't come. How did she ever become a Coy Wire fan? That is twilight zone-esque.

Link?