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Since then however, the AFC has won 7 of 9 &.... prior to the 13 SB run, the AFC won 9 of 12. AFC was obviously dominant prior to and after the NFCs dominance. It's not coincidental.

All the time. It's been compulsory over here since forever....well, I don't recall a time it wasn't & I'm 36. Your nuts if you don't. Friend of mine went out drinking years back, did the right thing & caught a cab, but didn't do the right thing by not wearing a seat belt....the cabby also didn't do the right thing by falling asleep at the wheel & rammed a power pole. My friend nose dived the wind screen. If not for him being a muscle building nut...therefore having a really strong neck, he probably would have died. As it was he spent some time in hospital.

3rd Quarter 2-9-MIA21 (9:28) R.Brown left end to MIA 23 for 2 yards (T.Polamalu; J.Farrior). 1-10-PIT25 (8:08) R.Brown right tackle to PIT 20 for 5 yards (I.Taylor; R.Bailey). 1-10-PIT13 (7:08) R.Brown right end to PIT 5 for 8 yards (R.Clark, C.Haggans). 3-2-PIT5 (6:16) R.Brown right end for 5 yards, TOUCHDOWN. 4th Quarter 1-10-MIA38 (9:56) R.Brown to MIA 33 for -5 yards (T.Polamalu). FUMBLES (T.Polamalu), recovered by MIA-C.Chambers at MIA 38. C.Chambers to MIA 43 for 5 yards. 2-5-PIT44 (7:44) R.Brown up the middle to PIT 41 for 3 yards (J.Farrior, T.Kirschke). 3-2-PIT41 (7:07) R.Brown up the middle to PIT 43 for -2 yards (I.Taylor, A.Smith). R.Brown 2nd half Stats 7-16 2.3ypa 1TD 1Fumble Flattened them!!!

I'd love it if the Bills...& you...put me in the possition to do just that.

*snicker snicker* Good call there. *chuckle* Not premature at all. BWAH HAHAHA HAHA TEEHEE

You could say that the local girls were facing some real stiff competition.

Though that would be really funny. Tedy scans the offence. "Oh no, oh no. Look everybody! It's Peerless Price not Josh Reed over there." Marvin rushes over to his side. "Oh 'expletive deleted'! He's right. Damn Bilichick, he told us it'd be Reed." Tedy addresses entire defense "Don't panic! Nobody panic, it'll be alright." Vince from a fetal position on the ground while sucking his thumb "Doomed. We're Dooooomed! Bwah ha ha." Rosevelt runs around & around in circles, hitting himself on the head while the Bills snap the ball....

Price will start Sunday for Bills LINK

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Thanks all. I've got a much better idea on how it all works now.

Point well taken, that 'one of the best' OLines was poorly last year. I was thoughtless saying 'last year' and should have generalized about how good the chiefs line has been in recent years. That does not mean the point I was making was invalid. Compared to the Bills OL, the Chiefs had an awesome OL. Two top 5 guards. A top 10 center. A top 5 tackle(who played 10 games). We had...um....1 up & comer who started 10 games. My point obviously is that a better OLine helps a RB produce better numbers.

And for the sake of the argument I took him as the better back. Please don't lump me into rose coloured glasses territory when it is you who have set up the boundaries of the discussion....i.e. WM being better than LJ. You are also talking in hindsight. The point I was trying to make was that nobody expected LJ to achieve the level of play he has.....they expected WM (if recovered) to easily reach that level....which in your arguement you state he has(since you state he is better than LJ). A fully healthy WM was a top 5 pick. Yes it was a gamble to take him. Your question is basically "Was it worth the bet?". Even if he fails I tend to think yes, but in your hypothetical where WM is better than LJ, it is a definite yes.

I never for one second would assume that the coach would underestimate any team. I'm sure they would do everything in their power to be ready for any contingency etc & plan for each match as if it were their last blah, blah, blah. It's the players who IMO can underestimate a team. If the players believe deep inside that the match they are about to play is an easy win, it is a very hard job for the coach to 'convince' them otherwise. I feel there is a decent chance the Patriots players might be in this 'easy win' mode. I bloody hope so.

It's funny....they pretty much have a "Manowar, Manowar, we are great" song every album. The lead singers voice(I don't know their names) is magnificent.

With peoples comments regarding Fast freddys pickup by the Pats & his knowledge of our playbook, it has given me pause to think....& I have discovered that I have no idea. I'll run through my thoughts..... If all the players get the playbooks to learn, about 30 of them are cut within 2 weeksish of the season...anyone could then get the plays from any of these cut players(Fast Freddy). Also, where & when would they practice the plays? I assume they would want to practice them to get ready for the season but....can't anyone just go to the practices & watch what they are doing(i.e. you guys who covered the camps)? I guess I'm curious as to when the players are given the playbook and when & where they practice them. Does anyone know the details of this?

Favourite Rock Bands....I'm including punk, metal & urban folk/rock....no country, jazz, or pre-rock. Queen Beatles(I'm including them since I'll give you a decent list) They Might Be Giants Manowar Beautiful South Crowded House Violent Femmes Billy Bragg

Yes.....you said WM is a better back, LJ has performed like an all pro.....so, yes I'd say it is worth taking WM 4 places ahead of LJ.

Except for the veracity of that statement of course. Hang on.....that would then make the statement false... ...which would then make my first statement false... ...which would leave the original statement as true... ...which would lead me to think "Except for the veracity of that statement of course."... ...which would then make the first statement false... ...which would....

This is a very good point IMO. I do not bet on the Bills(unless I buckle to my emotions). I have always found that when you bet on your own team... If you win you are ecstatic anyway & the extra money is totally meaningless to your state of euphoria..... If you lose, you feel like shiit & it is compounded by the loss of cash. Basically there is no benefit if you win but there is a detriment if you lose. Also emotions tend to warp your judgements when betting on a team you love.

I think at the time, perhaps it certainly was(& still may prove to be). LJ was not a top 20 pick. Nor was he a top 10. Nor was he a top 5. WM was easily showing himself to be a top 5 pick before his injury. Also, LJs production has shown to be far greater than one would expect from the 27th pick....he led the AFC in yards, the NFL in YPC & was second in the NFL with 20 TDs. If we are assuming WM is a little better than LJ I'd say the 4 picks difference is totally negligible & if pushed, yes to your question.

Agreed. .....KCs OL last year is one of the best....perhaps of all time. Ours was.....um.....well, not.

Great post. Very solid concepts....very hard to argue against them. It does not mean he will have an awesome year but to most gives us some realistic hope. BIG mistake comparing WM to TT. This thread quickly changed from your easily defended theory to an argument over the two RBs. To those who say "....so he will leave after this season to another team." Would you rather he has a shiit year so we can keep him? Reiterating....Great Post!

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Clements has an over inflated opinion of himself. Am I getting the hang of this yet?