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Agreed. I grabbed the wrong end of the stick with this one. Seems that 30(+/-) still hasn't changed as the standard "RB hitting the wall age".

2) A team can't use the Franchise Tag(Byrd)....and the Transition Tag in the one year. They can use one or the other.....not both. 3) Can't trade him unless we sign him first.

Obviously.....intangibles cannot be charted.

I honestly can't tell if some or all of this post is sarcasm or not.

People who mock the people who are mocking mock drafts.

.....but with no QB.

18.8.....but I won't quibble over that. The league has changed in recent years regarding number of carries......therefore there is a misconception amongst most fans as to what constitutes a lot of carries & what doesn't. People tout 25+ carries/game as a reasonable workhorse number. That equates to 400 carries a year.....the last time this occurred was 7 years ago in 2006.....and since then only 5 RBs have rushed over 350 in a season....one being MT. Here are the number of RBs to get 300+ carries a season since MT started at the Falcons.....(his rank is in brackets if he rushed over 300 that season). 2008: 5(1) 2009: 6.....injury year 2010: 7(1) 2011: 2(2) 2012: 5 The average is only 5 RBs per year......and 3 of the last 5 were led by MT.

So you're saying you would be happy if we drafted OG Jonathan Cooper at #8!!!

Hard to say without looking up the actual game situations but.... 3rd (or 4th) down and 1-2 yards to go: 7 attempts......12 yards......longest run 12 yards. Doesn't look good.

I'll second that.

Actually.....his 3.6 Y/A was pretty horrible and a massive 0.9 Y/A less than his 2011 season. Personally I think he is likely finished.

We can only hope. If he does decline & retires after the 2014 season, that will have the added effect of screwing with the Patriots cap situation

Though I'll be pissed if we draft an OG too.....your "facts" seem to suggest that there is not a high success rate with high drafted OGs. This is not the case as OG likely has the highest success rates of all positions drafted. There is however not a great deal of drop-off between the success rates of 1st round OGs and those of 2nd round OGs. While OG is considered to be less valuable than most other positions, it would be better use of draft capital to draft one in the 2nd round to try and find your solid starter. Hopefully this discussion will be moot.....and we re-sign Levitre....thus freeing up the #8(or 2nd round) pick for a different position.

So you're saying you would be happy if we drafted him in the 1st round!!!

Part 1 is easy to answer.....part 2 is impossible to determine due to many variable factors IMO. Part 1: I personally think it more appropriate when it comes to OGs to look at top 17.....or 1st round selections......but obviously since we have the #8 pick, top 10 is the pertinent area. There has only been 1 OG selected in the top 10 in the past 26 years(since 1987)......Chris Naeole pick 10 1997. There were only been 3 OGs selected in the top 10 in the previous 11 years(1976 - 1986). The mid 70s back to the 60's seemed to have a much higher premium placed upon OGs with 10 selected inside the top 10(6 inside top 5) in a 16 year span(1960 - 1975). I believe that there are two factors as to why OGs are rarely drafted inside the top 10....yet were commonplace 40 years ago. Firstly, the NFL has maneuvered into more of a passing league. Back in the day, the running game was seen to be the way to win championships. OGs being considered a key element to the run game would therefore have their position deemed to be of a higher priority than in modern times. The second factor is that due to the passing game becoming more important, the OT position becomes more important. I imagine that throughout the development process for young players in modern times, the more athletic OLmen are steered towards OT.....meaning that there are far fewer top OG prospects. Part 2: This really is impossible to tell. IMO, QB is the only position where it is possible to confidently determine a players contribution to success. For example, OJ Simpson(though not a top 10 pick) was astonishingly good through 6 seasons. The Bills however only managed to make 1 playoff appearance in that time. Does this mean that RB has/had little importance to the impact of a teams success? Personally I think OG, like most positions, is only one part of the whole. It may have less impact than most positions.....but without a good OL.....which includes good OGs....the running game will likely suffer.....which leads to opposing Ds focusing against the passing game.....which leads to the passing game suffering....which leads to many 3 & out situations......which leads to the D having to be on the field too long....which leads to breakdowns in the defense.....which leads to opposing teams scoring too much.....which leads to getting blown out every game. (Hopefully that helps explain my thoughts on why all positions are important ) In terms of Warmack. He seems to be a rare talent.....and likely will make any team happy they drafted him inside the top 10. The success rate for OGs is amazing inside the first 2 rounds......which leads me to believe there is an extremely good chance that Warmack will become at least a solid starter. Not for us though. If we let Levitre walk....and draft Warmack instead, we will be basically treading water.

I don't see the relevance of this. Does having a bigger following on a Bills public forum effect how the actual teams drafting see a player?

Yeah....God forbid we actually start using logic and clear thought to help run the organization.

Furthering to that..... 2012 Playoff team Vikings drafted OT at 4 in 2012 2012 Playoff team Redskins drafted OT at 4 in 2010 2010 & 2012 Playoff team Seahawks drafted OT at 6 in 2010 I think one will find that the only true correlation between specific draft pick & immediate success would be those teams that have a young QB produce at a high level early.

Most QBs....including the 1st rounders....including the high 1st rounders....don't do all that well in the pros. The thing is, you never know until they are in the pros......and if you don't try your luck you'll never have one that does well in the pros.

You didn't read(or understand?) my post. If you let Levitre walk....and then draft Warmack....you can't use the #8 pick to draft a different player. Therefore.....the cost is Levitre plus the #8 pick.....for getting Warmack, a 3rd & 6m in cap space. You had it that the cost is simply Levitre....for getting Warmack, a 3rd & 6m in cap space. It could end up being.... Levitre and Geno.....for Warmack, a 3rd & 6m in cap space. I know which I'd rather have.

I was fixing up your equation. It's Levitre and a rookie that isn't Warmack.......for Warmack, a 3rd & 6m in cap space. Your initial equation was: Levitre.....for Warmack, a 3rd & 6m in cap space.

Fixed.

The next 2 years look interesting in regards to QB salaries.... 2014: Ryan, Cutler, Romo 2015: Rodgers, Stafford, Newton, Dalton, Kaepernick

Yeah....it's been years since we landed a big name, high priced FA.

Can anybody explain how this makes any sense?