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I can see the NFLPA having a field day with this and a likely penalty coming for the Jets of some kind handed down by Goodell.

Heyyyyyy, I actually get to watch this one on the Samsung.

I have been very reluctant to recognize Goff as one of the top young QB's in this league for the fact that McVay is the brains behind the operation. I think that the blueprint provided by a BB understudy like Patricia has pretty much sealed that team's fate. Couple that with an aging, suspect OL, and Todd Gurley's rapid decline leave you with what you see this year. Now if Goff can become self-sufficient, making the adjustments, reads, and checks at the line himself then things may be different down the road. Many times he looks like a deer in the headlights out there. He just got paid a ton of money by LA though for basically being a puppet. I love what I have seen from Josh this year, despite the mistakes made, and see true growth in our young QB. One would be a fool to say that they haven't seen improvement in Jackson as well, even though I worry about him reverting to his old ways the further we get into the season. Right now he and Josh are looking like the top two QB's from last year's draft with Mayfield taking a step back and Darnold looking like the same player from his Junior year at USC. In this day and age no one is going to sit a QB for multiple years ala Aaron Rodgers. Front office and coaching leashes are much shorter now than they used to be before. Every regime that comes in wants their guy at the helm and they basically sink or swim from that. See Kingsbury and the Arizona Cardinals. You have to build around your young QB. You have to put them in situations to succeed. You have to play off of his strengths and hopefully build until the weaknesses are no longer that. Outside of Daboll calling in a few head scratchers at times, I feel that is exactly what we are doing with Josh and you can see the improvement from year one to year two. I see improvement in the same manner with Lamar, though him running as much as he does and coming back to earth since the Miami game make me wonder if it is sustainable. Even Vick, who was built like a RB, started coming up with injuries due to that playing style. But what can you do if you are Baltimore? You work with him to continue to make him better, but you have to let him do what he does out there on the field. Another thing to consider when looking at today's QB's is the college game itself. It's mainly Spread formations, RPO, a lot of dual threat QB's, and not really much traditional QB play anymore. Where a QB has 5 to 7 seconds at times in college to read a defense, and allow things to open up, you only have 3 in the NFL for the most part on any given play. Where guys in college can wait for their guy to come open so they can throw the ball, now they are forced to read where the man will be open and throw with anticipation. Many of these young QB's have a hard time with that, processing the information from pre-snap to the release of the pass. All of the greats have had the mental aptitude to succeed in the game. Brady, Manning, Brees, Marino, Kelly, Montana, Rodgers, Steve Young, Ben Ro, Favre, Rivers, and the rest are/were very cerebral in their approach processing what they see on the field quickly. With the way college offenses are run these days there aren't many who are developed for those 3 or 4 years in this regard in the college game.

Would LOVE to get Evans. The price would be high though, likely two 1st's and a 3rd would be my guess. I don't think Arians parts with his top playmaker though. Ngakoue is a guy I want us to target in FA next year. If the Jags are trying to move him then hopefully Beane is in on that.

The media and everyone else has to make excuses for why the Bills are 5-1. It can't be because McDermott and Beane are actually building the team right, can it? No it has to be the schedule or other exterior factors as to why the Bills have only lost to the Pats thus far, especially when that same media had the Jets possibly challenging the Pats for the division and making the playoffs.

Just win baby!!! Beat the teams we're supposed to beat, make the playoffs, challenge for the division if possible, and let the 2nd season where winner takes all begin.

I think the penalties, not having Milano out there on defense, and the key drops were the difference between 35/42 - 10 and what we got which was 31-21.

"Offense changed when Nick Foles stepped in at QB".....hmmmmm......

Well my apologies then and the bold are some things we do agree on.

Some guys have been the same guy for years. Great, good, middling, or just ST guys their whole career. It doesn't mean they don't work to try and get better, but some guys are just who they are. It also doesn't mean they are regressing. In a QB's case it also does not mean they are regressing if they don't seem to take a step forward every single game. Like we already established, there will be good days and there will be bad days. You hope for more good than bad and you look for growth in your QB. From your statement, if they aren't better every time they step on the field then they are going backward. It's dumb.

Fully healthy, until he's not.

Okay champ, we'll just have to disagree on this one.

All of these guys are young. Allen, Darnold, Jackson, Mayfield, it's hard to pin where any of them end up right now. They've all had some good games and they've all had some bad. Jackson's is made up for in a sense by the fact he can gash your defense for 150 on the ground any given day. Josh Allen can get you some yards on the ground as well, but he also has a flair for the dramatic as he comes up clutch when the team needs him. Mayfield has all the talent in the world, but he needs to check himself, stfu, and just play football. Darnold is likely the most polished of the group at the moment(if there is a thing), despite his atrocious performance last night, and has the potential to be good as well. You can't judge any one of them on a single performance right now, especially one against this year's Pats defense. I expect Lamar to have a completely s*** game against them as well. You have to look at the entire body of work as they continue to learn on the fly and look for growth. I can see growth in Allen, I can see growth in Jackson to a certain extent, I see regression in Mayfield at the moment, and Sam looks no different this year than last imo.

And that's the thing, no one said he was low end. He was a viable NFL starter. That's what I see Darnold's ceiling as.

And Romo was no Marino

But what is he remembered for? Choking in big games maybe? Underachieving when it mattered most? Never being able to quite get over the hump while being on some pretty good teams? I didn't say their numbers would be absolutely identical either, but that is who Sam reminds me of. Is that too hard to comprehend?

This game came to mind, but he had one less INT and still threw for over 200 yards. https://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2007121610/2007/REG15/eagles@cowboys And then there was this gem Romo was putting together before he got pulled against the Panthers the year they, the Panthers, ended up in the SB https://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2015112601/2015/REG12/panthers@cowboys Yes, yes they have. This all originated from my comparison of Darnold to Romo. That is EXACTLY who I see when I watch him play. Romo had a decent career and I expect Darnold to have a decent career, but watching Darnold play is like watching #9 in a Cowboys' jersey all over again.

Can't imagine why he needed help finding a "love connection"

I agree. There's something sketchy about all of this, kinda like some on the dl Asian massage parlor hand j*b.

Maybe he and McDaniels go replace Kitchens and Mayfield in Cleveland?

Good luck with that ......