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Glad we dodged that bullet. It would ruin Bass' game if he were the holder.

Nobody: vtnatefootball11: The Dawson Knox contract thread from a year and a half ago for a LAMP

Baker looked good a couple of years in Cleveland too, without Mike Evans and Chris Godwin. They almost beat the Chiefs in the Playoffs. Andy Dalton on the other hand is on the tail end of a solid, but not spectacular career. I know Baker will want to maximize his value while he can, but he's still gonna have to take what he will get. No one is saying he is elite or deserves elite money. I can see someone giving him a Geno Smith type of contract. He (Geno) got paid off of a single year worth of production while having some good talent around him as well. And Geno had done absolutely nothing in his career prior to that single season. Just because you don't like him doesn't mean no one will take that chance, especially with a QB. Your feelings about Baker are probably on par with mine about JJ McCarthy from Michigan.

Ran this one on PFN just now. Moved a couple of times for a couple of picks:

I guess you couldn't catch on to the sarcasm in that statement On the Andy Dalton talk though, he's washed. He's nothing more than a journeyman backup at this point, I don't care who you put around him (minus that 49ers team. I think Shanahan could make any QB look serviceable). Baker is definitely a better option than him, on any team.

At no point in his entire football career has Andy Dalton ever, IN HIS LIFE, woke up in the morning feeling pretty dangerous.

Insanity. I don't believe it. He never once carried that team. Harbaugh's scheme actually hid him quite well. He averaged a whopping 199 yds per contest. Does that scream top 5 pick to you? Does that even scream 1st Round pick to you? Any of this chatter is probably being put out there by his agent imo. Like I said before, any team dumb enough to trade up for him deserves the misery that will follow.

Any team dumb enough to trade up for McCarthy deserves the misery soon to follow.

It will depend on if they feel strongly enough about one of them. At #13, and without a trade up, they'll likely be left to decide between Penix and Bo Nix if it's a QB at that spot. Thing about it is they have 6 teams in front of them who could be vying for 5 QB's, and I say 5 QB's because I don't see McCarthy as a 1st Round prospect in any way. Cousins will likely be one of those 6 teams QB in 2024. That leaves 5 teams who could very well have Williams, Maye, Daniels, Penix, and Nix all off of the board. Not highly likely, but it could shape up just like 2011 where people started reaching for QB's out of need.

Agreed. Personally, I don't care where he goes. He could go to the Pats, the Jets, the Chiefs, the Dolphins, the Bengals, the Texans, whoever. I'm not worried in the slightest that Gabe Davis is going to turn into this amazing WR. He is what he is after 4 years. A guy who will be too inconsistent to be what we need, and no one I'm overly concerned about if he were to line up across from our defense.

I can see the Raiders going after Baker and giving him a middle of the road contract. 2 year deal in the $60M range. Their QB is Aidan O'Connell right now. He's also better than the soon-to-be-released Garoppolo.

A few moments later......

I hate how things unfolded at the Chiefs game, fans screaming and cursing at Gabe. Absolutely ridiculous. Still, let him go get his "bag" elsewhere. Wish him the best, but this is going to be a mutual parting of ways and one I won't wish things were otherwise at any point.

Condolences to all of them, their friends, and family.

We have Rousseau for two more years at the least, as they certainly will pick up the 5th year option. He's been a good player against both the run and getting after the QB. He also has some positional flexibility because they can kick him inside on pass rushing downs. I don't really see any concern with that. See how the next two years play out and we can move based off of that.

This is what we've all seen since day 1 when Josh stepped on a field in a Bills uni. He's always had that "it" factor, his teammates love him, and you know he's going to leave everything on the field. In most instances he walks off the field having led his team to a lead, or put them in position to take it, or at least tie (unless we're already up substantially). Those with a basic understanding of football know he's clutch if they watch him play. The 🤡's on TV can nitpick all they want, and try to claim lesser QB's are better, but the eye test doesn't lie. Josh is not the reason we're out here losing games.

That's the problem, he went black market instead of getting a prescription.

Lamar and the defense. For most of the time he's been there, a healthy chunk of Lamar's yards and TD's come on scramble drills. He breaks free of the pocket, people have to account for him running, and he finds the open man. He's an explosive athlete and carries their offense, it just isn't a good formula for Playoff success. Their defense has been top 3 in the league for 5 out of the 6 years Lamar has been their QB in scoring defense. Top 3. That is how Baltimore has stayed competitive.

Correct you are my friend. They did lose to Cincy that following week.

JA17 will get the Bills a Lombardi before any of those other guys and their respective teams get one. He is the closest talent wise to Mahomes. He has been right on the cusp with different variations of this offense, and WILL break through at some point in the near future. I don't believe in Lamar in the Playoffs. Time and time again he just doesn't get it done. He may put up some nice regular season stats, but in the Playoffs teams know and use the blueprint for stopping him. Burrow had one year where they clicked, but they are coming up on some business decisions and I don't trust their owner to keep set up for sustained success. They also just lost their OC so we'll see how they do with that. Then factor in Burrow's injury history and I don't trust it. Jordan Love, though solid this year, isn't the next in the line of Aaron Rodgers or Brett Favre for GB. But the NFC is definitely top heavy so he has a chance to get there as long as they keep the defense in the top 10 scoring wise. Purdy is the perfect system for him as a QB, but his coach has flubbed 3 SB's already. Two against the same Chiefs that we have fallen victim to. As long as their defense can carry them, because that is not Brock's game, then they have a shot since they are coming from the NFC. Then on to Herbert. Justin Herbert. The same QB who couldn't do anything during the 2nd half of his only Playoff appearance, allowing the Jags to complete a historic comeback. Harbaugh or no Harbaugh. I don't care if they bring Bill Walsh back from the grave, I don't see it. He has a lot of ability, but he just doesn't have that same "it" factor you see in Mahomes, Allen, and Burrow. He also has to contend with Mahomes within his own division. He will be the franchise's new version of Phillip Rivers.

The Chiefs have two, the Rams, and the Bucs who beat the Chiefs in the SB. We have lost to our arch nemesis (KC) in the Playoffs three times in there, with all three times them ending up in the SB. The other loss was to the Bengals, who lost to the Chiefs the following week. Regular season point differentials mean nothing.

McKinney is the one "pricey" FA I want us to go after.

He better watch it, Tiger might be scoping his girl.

Financially, we cannot trade Diggs. The only way would be if he added like 3 void years to his contract so we could spread out the cap hit. And I don't know if that's even legal by NFL rules, to add void years to a contract without adding anything else. It's not gonna happen. I think Aiyuk, if traded, will end up in Houston, New England, or maybe Tennessee.

Better run blocker than pass blocker. He still struggles with speed rushers, or rushers who have multiple moves in their repertoire. Josh makes any OL look better than they actually are because of his Houdini act in the pocket, how hard he is to bring down, and the fact he'll take off if he feels pressure and sees a lane. He's not some upper echelon RT or anything like that, but he was better this year than previous. Our offensive mentality also shifted as well where we decided to run the ball more often, which having that going definitely benefits his game. Just the threat of us being able to run the ball kept the defense from being able to pin their ears back and rush the QB as often this year.