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Ok so by your logic shouldn't all of the mobs, riots, looters, arsonists, be labeled left wing nut jobs by the MSM then? I mean Maxine Waters, Pressley, AOC, and other Dem Congress members were calling for unrest and violence in the streets.

I appreciate your thoughts and opinions my friend. We differ in how we see things as far as Trump and Biden go. Trump is a political outsider who was already rich when he obtained the office so he can't be bought, not like these career politicians who have turned their Office into a cash cow. He's not trying to be a dictator, he's trying to get everything turned back over to the people. He has fought tooth and nail against the rest of the corrupt politicians since the night he received enough Electoral votes to become POTUS. He had no peaceful transition, he was given no chance to just do his job, and those same corrupt politicians (with the help of the corrupt mainstream media) have done nothing, but slander and throw accusation after accusation his way while trying absolutely everything within their power to remove him from office. Why? Because he's stopped all the backhanded transactions they were using to amass their personal fortunes and is bringing down their plots to bring us into a One World Government system under the rule of the same Globalist Elite who run the Central Banking system. Biden is a 47 year politician who has really accomplished nothing outside of the 1994 Crime Bill, a bill which basically targeted blacks in general. There are numerous videos of him making racist statements, his strange to say the least touching/fondling/sniffing of women or children, and many times he's not able to put a coherent conversation together. There are also multiple instances of corruption he's been involved in whether it be himself or tied in through his family. Everyone, including the MSM, is turning a blind eye to it. Why might that be? Is it because Trump is really their enemy and not the people's? Everything since he has been elected has shown me what the Dem party is about and that is "win at all costs" no matter those who get caught up in the wash. They don't care about the people, they care about power. The power to impose their wil, their policies, and enslave us all. They don't care about the Constitution, they want to change it to fit their agenda. There's a reason they want bigger government, heavier financial burdens placed on us all, and a disarmed populace. Biden would be nothing more than a puppet of those pushing this agenda. His "plans" are those dictated to him by the puppet masters pulling the strings.

Didn't want to scan through every page to see if this was already posted, but here is one of the ring leaders who is not "right wing", but actually anti-Trump and more of an anarchist than anything.

When Trump closed off the borders to China I seem to remember Pelosi walking through Chinatown telling everyone to come out because everything was fine. I remember Biden calling him xenophobic for doing so. I remember DeBlasio telling people to go out in the city and enjoy themselves, not to overreact or panic. After Trump's immediate virus response to the ventilator situation, and the supposed lack of hospital space in NY, he sent a Naval hospital. Cuomo and other Governors praised his response openly. They didn't even use it. Now all of these deaths are the fault of one man alone? Here is a link to a graph of the ever widening death rate vs recovery rate on worldometers https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/worldwide-graphs/#case-outcome . If you go to the CDC website https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/index.htm you can see the breakdown of deaths by age groups. y You will see that almost 80% of the deaths have been age 65 or older. You think those numbers could have been a lot less if Governors like Cuomo, Northam, and others had not been dumping Covid positive people into the nursing homes to inflate the numbers? I know I surely do. If you're pretty healthy between the ages of 0-64 (and more than likely beyond that) then you basically have nothing to worry about according to the statistics themselves. The CDC also admitted that only 6% of the deaths attributed to Covid have been due to Covid alone as the only factor in death. The other 94% had serious pre-existing health conditions that were contributing factors in their death https://www.wric.com/health/coronavirus/new-cdc-report-shows-94-of-covid-19-deaths-in-us-had-underlying-medical-conditions/?utm_campaign=socialflow&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=referral . The MSM does lie and they used fear mongering tactics on everyone else with this whole Covid thing. The hospitals in NY that were supposedly "war zones" were actually no worse than normal with absolutely no one waiting to get in from outside. There is video footage of this from people who actually went out there to see. The fake news about dumping of dead bodies into refrigerated trucks because they were dying at such a rapid rate. The image they showed of piling bodies into an unmarked, large, open gravesite (which is what they do with many of the city's homeless who pass because there is no one to pay for a burial). The fake news reports saying the video footage was from places in the US, but it was from hospitals overseas. They got caught. Oh yeah, they apologized about that, BUT turned right back around and did it again. Talking about Covid. Car wreck? Died from Covid. A guy with a BAC of .55 they attributed to Covid when it was clearly alcohol poisoning. The goat and paw-paw fruit in Africa that came back Covid+. People who have left hospitals or doctors offices because they are tired of waiting without being tested get back letters telling them they are Covid+ because they still filled out the initial paperwork. Really? Then you have the rest of this mess. Pushing the race baiting agendas by attempting to make martyrs out of criminals. The riots, oh, those are a myth. Antifa isn't real. Reporting these are mostly peaceful protests while standing in front of a car dealership burning to the ground or other buildings burning to the ground. Seeing the riots in Portland every night for basically 4 months now and how it's been reported. The Seattle CHAZ/CHOP/whatever situation and how it was reported. Minnesota, Atlanta, NY, Baltimore, and the list could go on. The Russian hoax, but Hunter's cool to get 3.5 mill from the Russians. The Ukraine hoax, but nothing on Joe's ACTUAL Quid Pro Quo phone call which had a tape released. The reporting on Kavenaugh and the "MeToo" movement, but the blind eye to Biden's sexual assault allegations which were documented LOOOOONG ago with live TV clips. Kamala calling Joe a segregationist and saying she believed his accuser, but is now his running mate so it's all water under the bridge. Giving a platform to Marxist organizations, domestic terrorists, and those with known Socialist agendas. You have actual Congress members on National television calling for unrest and violence, but they're not called out about it then blaming Trump for the unrest. All of this is unchecked and unhindered. You have Antifa members and other clowns purposely starting fires everywhere, but the Speaker of the House and the Gov. of Cali are coming out being given a platform to blame it on "climate change". There are NUMEROUS local news reports from those areas of arrests made where these individuals have actually been caught in the act or with the means and intention to do so. I mean really? You can't make this up. Have you seen Biden's interview on The View? They were basically giving him an open platform in front of women to try to make amends for all of his fondling and sniffing, but he couldn't even get that right. The only thing you'll see or hear on the msm is "orange man bad". No my friend, it has nothing to do with what I "like" or "don't like". It has everything to do with the actual truth in situations, their proven unreliability, double standards, and their pushed propaganda. Something changed in the late 90's early 2000's with the msm. I used to watch CNN all the time back then because it was my favorite news network. Now I can't stomach any of them. And please, read this without trying to put a tone behind my words because I am as calm as I can be typing this. Just stating what I see and feel in general. Like I said before in a previous post, 26 days and we'll see how this all sorts out. No matter what happens, and how the chips may fall, it can't get here soon enough for my liking.

Or the Jeremy Maclin thread

No, I don't believe the polls. Yes, I do believe the mainstream media has an agenda and a narrative they have followed since November of 2016 in this instance, and other narratives prior to this Presidency they pushed. That is me. Your answer is you.

Thank you for the information my friend. A much appreciated reference and breakdown. There was a blue wave in the House, but the Republicans did manage to flip seats in the Senate. I believe that the House was more of the Dems focus in 2018 because they felt it was more vulnerable and did a lot more campaign work. We shall see in how it shakes out in 26 days.

Yep, read the book. And if that is your stance on Trump that is fine. I have no qualms with that. My original questions however were: Where do you actually believe that Trump has lost the votes he had in 2016, an election where he won easily? If the MSM was lying through their teeth in 2016 about Hillary/Kaine then what actually leads you to believe they are not doing the same now with Biden/Harris? Do you honestly, I mean honestly, believe that the "silent majority" is for Biden/Harris? Then I asked what the basis was for your answer and you claimed "polls". Here we are.

You can watch general clips anywhere from what they are saying in the MSM without having to watch entire shows on their channels and you can search local news outlets in any area to find stories, which tend to be more accurate and less skewed than the mainstream variety. Like you said, MSM is for profit, but we'll have to disagree on the thought about them being biased towards particular individuals or parties. It's what made me stop watching all of them in the first place. You actually can find reliable info on the internet outside of what the MSM is trying to feed you. Sorry is that goes against your inhibitions.

Information is always out there without having to watch the actual channels my friend. We live in the information age you know, in all of it's glorious and wonderful forms.

Yeah, definitely not one of those my friend. I don't watch FOX, CNN, MSNBC, ABCN, CBSN, any of them. I couldn't even tell you the last time I spent a moment glancing at any of them outside of just to see what the Dow was doing on a particular day real quick.

I have a strong belief that maybe Tre's back has been bothering him for a while and he's just finally telling the team about it because that's the type of guy he is. The dude is a competitor and wants to be out there helping the team win.

https://www.businessinsider.com/hillary-clinton-biggest-lead-donald-trump-2016-8 Yes, I understand a poll. They also try to use it as a basis to project and portray an overall lie. That is what I am telling you. I put absolutely no stock in the MSM, nor do I watch any of the channels themselves. It's all propaganda straight out of a George Orwell book written in 1948. Al Gore also won the "popular vote" if my memory does not fail me and the President who beat him in the Electoral College also went on to win a 2nd term. His approval rating has also been steadily climbing since early June back near the 49% it was at previously this year(same as Obama at his midterm landslide re-election in 2012) and that is with a completely biased, liberal MSM standing against him at every turn where Obama had a completely biased, liberal media standing at his back.

Did you not read the entire first post where I outlined everything going on in 2016? I'll edit just to summarize: It was the same types of things they, the MSM, were claiming with their "polls" in 2016. Even up to the "exit polls" on election night.

Yes my friend, but these are polls from that same mainstream media that lied to us all in 2016.

New voters, I can see that and understand that they could swing either way. The "educated voters" thing? I don't understand if you are trying to say that people who vote conservative are dumb or if you are meaning they have somehow gathered specific information that sways them left? But why on the rest? Why the elderly? Why have women left Trump/Pence to vote Biden/Harris? I am a working class individual raising two kids on my own and I am voting conservative. What makes you think others are opposed to him now that were for him in 2016? Who is going to lose their healthcare (and use something other than that Joe Biden statement from the debate because it's already been shown to be misleading/false)? Like I said, I'm just asking questions and looking for logical explanations.

Not sure what that has anything to do with me not believing a single thing that comes from CNN, therefore laughing, but I'll answer. Partially I believe in Global Warming, but I don't believe it to where it's "OMG, we're all gonna die because of carbon emissions!!!" type of belief. It's a known fact that CO2 is necessary for plant life in the same way that oxygen is a requirement for our own. It can also be proven by looking at basic weather data since it's inception that the earth moves in cycles. It's also known that the tilt of the earth changes ever so slightly over time which can cause changes as well. Hell, just less than 50 years ago they were out there pushing the "Global Cooling" propaganda. Now this is the narrative they are choosing to use. I am also ABSOLUTELY NOT taking the bait that the fires in the US right now are due to climate change like those clowns Newsome and Pelosi are trying to sell. Those were mainly set by simple careless idiots or blatant arsonists in the various places. I also surely don't believe anything that has come out of "Box of Rocks" AOC's mouth, that farting cows are killing the environment and that the earth is going to end in what, like 10 more years now(?), due to this supposed climate change. I also don't fall for the propaganda they try to sell through a 12 year old with Asperger's whose mother claims she can "see CO2 particles in the air" either. What I do believe is the more trees you cut down and the more colonized areas become then it can be a determining factor in the overall temperature of that area. In the Summer time for example, if you are in a city environment and then drive through a heavily wooded area you can feel a difference in the temperature. That's absolutely true and I've noticed my whole life.

This is the first thread I've ever started in PPP. It's basically posing a few questions to all of those who say the Joe/Kamala ticket is basically a shoe-in, as well as expecting a larger "Blue Wave" to take over the Senate also. I'm not here to bash anyone or anything like that. I'm an adult and can agree to disagree. I myself am a conservative person so I vote Red across the board. I have many friends who are not and it doesn't matter to me either way, even if I can tell that sometimes my opinions or stances bother them. In 2016, I didn't really see it coming. I knew Trump had support, but I didn't foresee him blasting Hillary the way he did in the Electoral College. To me, personally, it was great. I have never been able to stand Hillary Clinton. I always thought she was as corrupt as they come and, symbolically, everything wrong with the Government structure. I live in VA and leading up to the 2016 election I saw Hillary/Kaine signs or stickers all over in various places. I mean they were everywhere. All of the mainstream media outlets were putting out their poll numbers talking about her comfortable lead. Everyone in the msm, Obama, Hollywood, entertainment industry, Congressmen/women, and the like were all saying there was basically no way in hell she would lose. Even in the "exit polls" that evening they were telling you the same. Then the numbers started to roll in. Red state, after red state, after red state, after red state, oh there's a blue, after red state. In 2016 Trump crushed the hopes and dreams of liberals everywhere. The TDS was so bad that some campuses cancelled classes, some employers gave their people days off, and people were crying all over. Well, the ones they wanted you to see on the news anyway. In 2020 it's the exact opposite. Even with an absolutely biased, liberal MSM I see Trump supporters everywhere. Caravans, boat parades, rallies, people walking through the streets, stickers on cars, signs in yards, Trump supporters showing up to greet Joe Biden in areas where he is going to supposedly campaign, I see it everywhere. There are more people out now for Trump, even more so than in 2016. In 2016 it was the "silent majority" that won Trump the election. Well, either they aren't as silent anymore or his support has grown over the last 4 years despite what the MSM is trying to portray. In either instance that does not bode well for the Democratic Party. In 2016 Hillary would have enormous gatherings of people in various places showing support. I am yet to see a single Biden/Harris gathering of any kind outside of like a 15 car parade I stumbled across on Twitter with about 20 people standing on the sides of the road. And don't give me the 'Rona excuse either because that hasn't stopped people being out protesting, rioting, looting, and burning. In my travels this year I have only seen literally a handful of Biden signs (maybe 5, tops) and maybe two stickers in windows, but the MSM still claims he is comfortably ahead in the polls and he's bringing this one home for the Democrats. My questions are these: Where do you actually believe that Trump has lost the votes he had in 2016, an election where he won easily? If the MSM was lying through their teeth in 2016 about Hillary/Kaine then what actually leads you to believe they are not doing the same now with Biden/Harris? Do you honestly, I mean honestly, believe that the "silent majority" is for Biden/Harris? Answer away my friends and fellow Bills fans. Everyone please try to keep it civil with your neighbors.

Oooh, does that mean they could all get cool, matching, gold pens too?

CNN?

With the importance of field position Roberts has been huge this year.

The OP's internal battle....

This. There is no Bruce Smith. There is no Biscuit. There is no Thurman Thomas.