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Thats why I'm kinda torn on the Super Bowl, on one hand I would like to see Polian finally win the big one and I do think Peyton deserves it, but I know a Lombardi trophy would mean so much more to the city of Chicago(even though they already have won it before). Chicago is a great sports town and Bears fans are passionate and the team has a great football history and tradition. If it wasn't for the fact Polian was with the Colts I would be looking forward to rooting for a Bears superbowl victory, but I guess on the positive side at least I won't be disappointed with whoever ends up victorious.

Aww c'mon man, your not giving old Teddy enough credit, I'm sure he was in on like 45 hits

Patrick Willis is our guy

The Minnesota Miracle himself, Gordon Bombay

Hey as soon as we have a REAL team again I'm all for it. The red endzones remind me of the glory days and I wouldn't want to disrespect the great players who always found their way into the endzone like Thurman Thomas and Andre Reed led by Kelly by having this team playing with the Red Endzones, but yeah I really do miss them too!

Well right now he is certainly not who you would want as your starting qb if you want to be a serious contender but with that said it's still fun to watch the guy because you know he is always going to try to do something and you just know he loves to play football, how could you not love that? He's not a primadonna and you've never hear the guy complain about his contract. As far as his talent, I'll admit his better days are behind him but you also have to keep in mind his team is very weak...in his prime he was untouchable. Hall of Famer for sure

Joe D...now that was a FOOTBALL PLAYER as opposed to some guy who plays football for a career which we have quite alot of now.

Yeah I'm sorry I thought you were someone at the beginning who was backing up Willis in this debate and like I said I think Willis is a good running back and I hope he can step it up but I just get really mad when people make comparisons like this because it slights Thurman Thomas

Here's some more on Thurman Thomas from the new Steve Tasker book. Until I see some guys who have played with Willis talk about him in these regards I refuse to put them in the same category, "The guy was an absolute warrior, and for a long period, the most productive running back and perhaps the most productive offensive player in the game. The thing about Thurman was that, like Walter Payton before him, he was able to do it all, and do it all very well. He was a superb runner, rushing for more yards than O.J. Simpson. And he was an excellent receiever ranking 3rd all-time along Bills receivers with 456 receptions, 22 of them for touchdowns. But his blocking skills were the thing that impressed me the most and spoke legions about what a team player he was. Thurman was one of the best backs in NFL history at picking up blitzers. I don't know how many times he waylaid a linebacker or a cornerback to give Jim the additional time to complete a big pass. That was no small thing because most marquee backs want nothing to do with blocking, But Ted Marchibroda told me that Thurman would spend extra time during the week studying the blitz tendencies of upcoming opponents. Four times, Thurman led the league in combined yards from scrimmage. He and the immortal Jim Brown are the only backs in league history to accomplish that feat that many times. Thurman clearly was a dominating player over a long period." This is all coming from a guy who actually played in the NFL, not just one of us fans. Willis has to earn it if he wants to have this kind of respect. I don't like how some Bills fans just want to throw it out there like candy on Halloween night just because he is the current running back. I'm rooting for Willis but right now he's not on Thurman's level.

Look I wasn't trying to compare quotes but more so body language and emotion, James Lofton said he played football with Marcus Allen and another good rb who I can't remember right now, and then Thurman and said Thurman was the most competitive running back he ever played with. I don't see what Willis has ever done for you to be on his jock, I mean he definately is not garbage. He is talented and I'm sure he plays hard to a degree, but I hate seeing people compare him to Thurman Thomas who will be going into the Hall of Fame this year. Has Willis shown even the slightest signs of performing at a HOF level yet?

Exactly. This guy nailed it, I remember listening to Willis mumble last year"I unno we are just in chaos right now" like he doesn't have a care in the world. To me Willis doesn't seem to be about winning and having some pride. I watch alot of old tapes from the glory days and here are some examples of what Thurman meant to this team, after another beating of the Fish in 91 I think Thurman was doing a post-game conference and you could still see it in his eyes and he was talking about how even though the Bills beat them earlier in the season he didn't feel like they gave them enough respect and he said something like I thought Miami played pretty damn well today too but they got their ass kicked. Another one was in 96 when we were playing for a wild-card spot in the playoffs in the last regular season game Thurm was screaming out to the guys C'Mon Now This Is Our Season on the Line. Look I know alot of players say things like that, but you could tell that Thurman really meant it and you could see his passion. In fact Thurman was known to get in Bruce Smith's face if he had to get him to step it up. Now look at this team, Willis is a guy who is in a position where he should be saying something to light a spark in the younger guys and he doesn't can anyone imagine him getting in Bruce Smith or Jim Kelly's face?

Well for one thing Thurman Thomas was alot more competitive and actually wanted to prove all the scouts wrong that passed on him in the draft. Much more competitive than Willis IMO and he was amazing blocker and receiver and lets not forget he kept Barry Sanders on the bench in college. I'm sorry I can't put Willis in the same category as Thurm.

Yeah the Sabres are one intense team that oozes with leadership. It just doesn't come from one or two guys, everybody on the team understands whats on the line. I was at the Philly game sitting right by the glass and the Flyers bench. You could see it after the 3rd goal that the Flyers just gave up because they knew they couldn't keep up with the Sabres. Meanwhile the Sabres were all skating hard and flying all over the ice, you could just see them in the zone MJ style.

C'mon now Bills fans we would all be feeling the exact same way if we had the Bears team right now

Darryl is one of my all-time favorite Buffalo Bills. I just got the Steve Tasker book and I figure since we're on the topic of Tallley I'll post a few excerpts from what Tasker wrote about him: I played with and against a lot of tough guys in the NFL, but nobody had a higher pain threshold than Darryl Talley; even with his arms and legs cutoff he would still want to fight you. He'd be out there with broken bones and torn muscles and strained ligaments, and you wouldn't hear a peep from the guy. You could count on him every sunday. Everybody- and I mean everybody-on the team respected Darryl, and they feared him too. Nobody wanted to mess with him. He was clearly one of our leaders and he was not afraid to speak his piece when he believed it was necessarry. He'd tell Bruce Smith to shut up and sit down, and he'd pull Jim aside and say, "Jim you can't do that. You've got to knock it off." No one loved Buffalo and Bills fans more than Darryl, When he left the team as a Plan B free agency casualty following the 1994 season, he took out a full-page ad in the Buffalo News thanking the fans of Western New York. That was Darryl- a class act. By far one of the best to ever put on the red,white, and buffalo blue.

Haha that was on tv last night, classic

Another thing I noticed was Bennett's versatility he had an incredible season the year Bruce was out in 91, it said he lined up at 5 different positions throughout the year and I think he doesn't get enough credit for his role in those Super Bowl years, everyone always talks about the big 3 on offense and then Bruce, but I think Cornelius also played a HUGE role in that defense.

I was pretty young in the glory days I remember watching the games but I wasn't into the real hardcore football talk like I am now, anyways I was just wondering if The Biscuit was considered a hard-hitter or someone teams were afraid of playing or if he was considered an intimidator. Now I ask this because people always refer to Talley and Bruce as the big-hitters and tough guys from those teams(which is rightfully so) and it seems people considered Bennett more of a finesse, playmaker type of player, but I was watching some old NFL films from those days and something I noticed was how many qb's Bennett knocked right out of games and he was a ferocious pass-rusher. There was this one play where he must've split like 3 lineman to get to the qb and he ended up knocking him out of the game. While watching those films it certainly looks like the Biscuit knew how to lay the wood, so how come he is never mentioned when the hardest-hitting Bill or toughest Bills threads come popping up?

As soon as we become a contender again we gotta bring back the "WERE BACK-DEAL WITH IT AMERICA" slogan, definately a classic. Another one of my favorites was from that freezing below temp game against the Raiders someone had a big JUST FREEZE BABY sign obviously a take on Al Davis and Just Win Baby

Not me, I went last year and was kinda disappointed by the turnout. Not alot of fans, the only players that showed up were backups, I'm a huge Bills fan but the event was just not that entertaining.

Current= Brett Favre All-time: Walter Payton

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I agree with you 100% Buffalo Baumer, respect is earned not given out like candy on Halloween. I love the Bills more than just about everything but our team has been in shambles over the last few years(even that year we lucked out and went 9-7).

This offense would get creamed trying to run the no-huddle offense

Big Pat Williams, was a force in the middle. Wish we still had him