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Chicago Bulls last 3peat in 96, 97, 98....I can't claim the first 3 as I wasn't truly a "fan" yet but I actually really started getting into the NBA and the Bulls the first year MJ retired so I "suffered" for two seasons before experiencing the glory

He is already on there, and he more than enough warrants it. He was actually one of the very first guys from the Super Bowl years to go up there

We need more than locker room guys, we need guys who have IT and can produce on the field first and foremost. That's the best leadership you can have. When the game is on the line who is that guy we turn to and say hey you have to make a play for us right now. At the NFL level you need to have self-motivated, driven players who are competitive as all hell. If you need somebody in the locker room to give the other guys pep talks then the mental makeup of the entire team is soft. Although very brief clips, one of my favorite scenes from the Bills 30 for 30 the other night was when Steve Tasker was talking about all the talent they had on the team and then he said they weren't afraid to tell you that they were good either and then they showed a clip of Cornelius Bennett on the sideline going "I'm for real goddammit" and then to a clip of Bruce proclaiming 'Give me that defensive player of the year award" It gave me goosebumps, that's the kind of attitude that takes you to Super Bowls. A belief and confidence a guy has in himself. Those 90's teams were LOADED with players like that

You cannot be serious right now?

I have a gut feeling Pittsburgh could end up going from the AFC

watch the very beginning of this video for the proof

That ending was cool and all but I was alittle disappointed after hearing there was this amazing surprise ending because that scenario where Norwood's kick being doctored to going through the upright and Van Miller calling the Bills Super Bowl win had already been done exactly the same going all the way back to the 1991 Buffalo Bills highlight film

FWIW in some of the articles I've read the Bickering Bills stuff is brought up in the film, Thurman also talks about the lost helmet incident in Super Bowl 26. When it comes down to it there are just too many realities regarding the things that went wrong during those years as well for them to not present that part of the story. I do think the partying stuff gets swept under the rug though

Not at all on my part, I'm super excited for this 30 for 30 and have actually been wanting to see a 30 for 30 on this subject since the series started, I'm still almost kind of shocked this became a reality. There is so much more to those Bills teams than the partying off the field and I can't wait to enjoy every minute of it. My point was that IT IS part of the story however and I just don't think any of that is going to be looked at in this documentary. I disagree with those saying its all going to be cheerful and gloss over the negative parts of losing four Super Bowls. I guarantee there will be some painful stuff to endure as well

Yeah with the Bills players from that era its very interesting to me. There were always alot of stories about the likes of Lawrence Taylor and alot of the 90s Cowboys players, etc. but the Bills never had any of their shenanigans leak out publicly. I think the only reason Bills fans know how crazy things were behind the scenes is because of how small a town Buffalo really is and a lot of fans witnessed the Bills partying their ass off firsthand. I know of at least one guy I trust 100% who saw guys out the nignt before the first Dallas Super Bowl at 4am getting after it and I've heard countless other secondhand stories over the years.

I was hoping this documentary would actually call them out on the hard partying before the bowls, but I listened to an interview with the director of the film on Shred and Ragan this morning(local Buffalo radio talkshow for those not in WNY) and he brought up how the film does ask the question why didn't they win one of them and then either Shred or Ragan commented about the partying and the director kind of just glossed right over that and started talking about the opponents and the mental struggles after losing the first couple, etc....doesn't sound like that topic will be addressed at all in this

Do you know if this will be the lot Pinto Ron will be tailgating in as well?

I remember him talking about playing basketball with TO during the offseasons during his NFL career

All I know is I wasted mid round draft picks on Spiller in two fantasy leagues this year

Will be interesting to see if they get into that aspect at all, for the most part the tales of the Bills hard partying ways haven't been documented publicly but alot of these 30 for 30's really get down to the gritty topics. Also noticed that it is going to be two hours long, so I think there is going to be a ton of ground it covers.

This should be awesome. I haven't watched a 30 for 30 I didn't enjoy even if the subject matter didn't really interest me that much going into it. This subject interests me just a little bit

I think it was two years ago they changed the law to make open containers illegal while walking the sidewalks to the game. It got a lot of attention when they first announced it and from what I heard they were even pretty lenient with enforcing it for awhile as people got accoustomed to the change but at some point I guess they have to get stricter on it. It does suck because that was a non-issue for so many years at the Ralph but as they say these times are a changing

Still alive

I do too but thats still bad karma to be hearing that right before kickoff, I honestly don't remember that game last year. I normally don't pay attention to either teams but I have to admit the Bengals have been fun to watch this year....being jealous of the Bungles a new low in this 15 year playoff drought

Ahhhhh don't tell me that now, I actually took Cincy in my survivor pool this week

At least Detroit has the Red Wings...they dont even know how real the struggle is

This is one poll we get ranked in first place every season

I enjoyed the bye week. Went over my buddies place who has the Sunday Ticket and we watched the the Bengals-Steelers game and followed along all the other ones. Drank some brews and ate pizza and wings without having the stress looming over from watching the Bills. There were also some great games on yesterday....Hooray for the BYE WEEK

Well they certainly can't tell you over and over how great the team is

I know exactly what you mean, I've had the same observation and it is intriguing for sure