BoondckCL

Let me ask you a question Griff. Have you been to training camp this year?

Why what seems to be the problem? I have made valid points about NFL teams copying success, Marv's love for projects, and then you responded by using his age against him, and i responded with a Rich Gannon remark. How about i throw another name at you, Kurt Warner. He was old too and labeled a nothing, i think he did pretty damn well for himself.

How old was Rich Gannon before he started doing well?

No you simp. He will stay on this team because Marv is trying to copy the success of the Patriots. He is a project. Projects are probably the only thing Marv likes more than early bird specials and prune juice.

You want to hear basis huh? How about this, in the NFL teams try to copy success. The New England Patriots have become a dynasty because of guys like Aaron Gibson. Guys who were cut from other teams and labeled as being nobodies. These are the guys with something to prove, and they are the guys who have a real fire that burns inside them and have the desire to show everybody up. According to the NFL standard now; a team with 22 starting Aaron Gibson's would be the best team in the league right now. How's that? Or should i go on?

- Ryan Neufeld - Joe Burns - Jason Thomas - Chris Denney - Jason Hall - Rob Lee - James Bathea - Nick Setta - John DiGiorgio

Stop with the unrealistic negativity. He will make this team, i thought i told you on the other thread as well. HAHA

We aren't cutting Aaron Gibson, i can tell you that much right now. Him or Peters may end up being our long term solution to LT. He has shown his value this summer and i don't expect him to be going anywhere except Ralph Wilson Stadium on Sunday's this fall.

A lot of the characteristics of Sonny are found in Tony Soprano. He killed Ralph out of simple rage as a result of the horse. That is something Sonny would have done. I think what i am trying to say is Sonny is not cool because he is smooth or what not, i think Sonny is cool because he is the bad ass just like Clint Eastwood. Doesn't put up with sh-- from anybody, always gets the girl if one is involved, and he's never afraid to throw down for something he believes in. Now that my friend, is very cool.

Well, these are very valid points, and they are taken into consideration; especially the one about women. I wouldn't say i am complaining about growing up now or saying that i have it bad at all; I am actually a healthy child from a wealthy family. But sometimes i just think how things are different from then and now. For example, i saw people on this thread talking about apple wars and neighborhood things like that. My father also speaks fondly of these times and i just think about how many lawsuits would be opened up as soon as someone's child was beaned in the face with an apple. For some reason, i just get this feeling that there is an ever growing - pardon my language - pussification of growing up in these recent times. I think everybody is so worried about lawsuits and legal liability that i think with more things opening up to America's youth, behind them is the closing of doors of opportunities that older generations had while they were growing up. So there is a trade off as Kelly said, only it is that if you want the better technology and all of this other garbage, then you have to give up the things that make children, kids. For example; when kids get to the college age now a days, i don't think that they have the same experience that kids had back in the 60's and 70's. Animal House situations with road trips that consist of sleeping on top of suitcases on the way to Florida, while sucking down a 12 pack of suds that you bought for merely a few dollars when you were 18, is something that will never be known to generation Y. My uncles and father, often talk of playing "Hardy boys" at St. Bonaventure in the under ground tunnels, the pulling of fire alarms while your drunk at 3:00 in the morning, and bitter rivalries between dorms are frowned upon by colleges now a days. If any suspision of these acts are bestowed upon any individual, they will more than likely face expulsion. I don't think kids growing up now have much of a voice. Everybody claims that they are all ears for kids now a days; but do people actually listen? The 60's and 70's were a time when kids had and found a voice in America, and now i think kids instead of being listened to are shunned and sometimes invisible to those around them. For example, high schools are some of the things that need the most reform in this country, but as soon as a child is willing to step up and voice his/her opinion, they are chastized by those running the school. I think one of the major problems is that the older generations don't realize that, although they are looking out for the youth of the nation, i think they are also shielding them from childhood. Yes, we may have the internet and better technology, and we may be able to obtain things faster or better than any generation. But are those the things that should be the sole foundations of a childhood? IMO, i would say no. Speaking to the older generations, would you trade any of the experiences you had growing up with your friends, for a computer back in the 60's or 70's? Yes women are "hotter" now then they were back in the 60's and 70's, but i think women are beautiful in general. But if you are turning to women being "hotter" as to why it is better to grow up now than then, not as Kelly did, but instead where some of you are looking to bring this thread, then you are completely misunderstanding this thread. Also, if all you can see in an individual is the size of their fake chest; then i don't think you understand life. Still thinking, will say more...

Thanks for the comment on the avatar, i took it down for a while but then Dibs asked where it went and i couldn't refuse the will of the people. HAHA.

I have not been keeping any real tabs this last week as of what was occuring in training camp and i don't know what problems have been solved or what you guys think could be the real problems on this team. Enlighten.

Just something i have been thinking about for a while, just wondering what some of you think and why.

So are you saying you don't find Tony Soprano to be cool?

Now that is exactly how i feel. Alcoholics go to meetings, and drunks are to drunk to even read the meeting schedule.

Okay, i think i put down the wrong movie for Edward Norton by putting down Rounders. That was my mistake, and i was wrong about that. But Sonny Corleone is cool, and i will explain why... - He slept with the maid of honor at his sisters wedding - Hit Carlo with the trash can lid - Delivered the line "Get off your ass" - He was going to inherit the family until he was murdered. He was a smooth guy with a temper. Clint Eastwood was a bad ass in the majority of his films that are listed on this thread, but some how he is still cool? How does this work exactly?

It would be so easy for me to destroy this thread and have all of you asking if you ever wanted to come on this board again. But i will restrain myself.

Great detective work. Seems like something out of the Da Vinci Code or Harry Potter. But i believe mike williams is playing for the NBA for those Bucks

That's not that hard. I got it in about 15 minutes.

I don't do it often, but i tip my hat to you.

If i do recall, Ving Rhames is crying in that scene as a grown man. River Phoenix was playing a kid who cried because he was misunderstood and prejudged. I think there is a big difference between crying and being reemed in the butt. Just some quick questions, Did you take any turns in prison? And do you find the Brokeback Cowboys to be cool?

Cuba Gooding Jr. - Jerry McGuire. Billy Jack as Billy Jack in Billy Jack

Dude, Ving Rhames got raped by the guy from the mask in the movie! Had that not happened i might be able to buy that.

Harvey Keitel - Pulp Fiction. ( How can you not like the Wolf) Al Pacino - Scent of a Woman "If I was half the man i was 5 years ago, i'd take a FLAME THROWER TO THIS PLACE" Kevin Costner - Tin Cup "Ball" Morgan Freeman - The Shawshank Redemption Ryan Reynolds - Van Wilder Clint Eastwood - Unforgiven "Anyone who doesn't want to get killed, best get on out the back. Paul Newman - The Sting and Nobody's Fool Jeff Goldblum - In any Jeff Goldblum film of all time Tim Matheson - Animal House JOHN BELUSHI - ANIMAL HOUSE "Guess what i am right now?" Burgess Meridith - Grumpy Old Men I and II Ron Livingston - Office Space "Damn it feels good to be a gangster Sean Patrick Flanery and Norman Reedus - The Boondock Saints (Major Cult Film) Edward Norton- 25th Hour and Rounders James Cann - Godfather I John Cusack and Jack Black - High Fidelity Bill Murray - The Life Aquatic The kid who plays Bennie - The Sandlot (Young, but you have to give him credit) Leonardo DiCaprio - Catch Me If You Can (I hate Leo, Good in this role) Denzel Washington - Man on Fire or Training Day Bruce Willis - Die Hard Robert DeNiro - Goodfellas River Phoenix - Stand by Me Matt Dillon - The Outsiders Sean Connery - As anything Samuel L. Jackson - In pretty much anything he is in. Anthony Edwards - Top Gun "Yee ha, Great balls of fire" Matthew Brodrick - Ferris Bueller's Day Off "How can i go to school on a day like this?" Harrison Ford - Jack Ryan Tom Everret Scott - That Thing You Do Vin Diesel - Boiler Room All I can think of now...

I'm sure he already has another name. It won't be that hard to find him, just look for the person who hates Losman and is negative about pretty much everything the Bills do.