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Yep. Just Shady being Shady. Of course he's going to think he's better than a rookie, as well as a high mileage Gore or meh Yeldon. He's a proud guy who uses a lot of motivational leverage to drive his game. He was fun to watch, and the snow game will always be a great memory...

The Chiefs defense is going to let them down. And while I like Mahones, I suspect that Andy's going to pull another Reid in a big game. 27-19 San Fran...

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2017/profiles/patrick-mahomes?id=2558125 DRAFT ANALYSIS: "He is a big-time gunslinger like Brett Favre. He's got the athletic ability. My question is can he learn to win in the pocket because to play in the NFL, at a certain point, you have to." -- Mike Mayock DRAFT PROJECTION Round 1-2 SOURCES TELL US "He's got a great arm, big balls and he's mobile. He is going to drive his head coach crazy for the first couple of years and there is no getting around that. If it clicks for him and he's coachable, I think he could become a special quarterback." - NFC executive NFL COMPARISON Jay Cutler BOTTOM LINE Mahomes is a big, confident quarterback who brings a variety of physical tools to the party, but he's developed some bad habits and doesn't have a very repeatable process as a passer. Mahomes' ability to improvise and extend plays can lead to big plays for his offense, but he will have to prove he can operate with better anticipation and be willing to take what the defense gives him in order to win from the pocket. Mahomes will be a work in progress, but he's a high ceiling, low floor prospect. DRAFT ANALYSIS: "He is a big-time gunslinger like Brett Favre. He's got the athletic ability. My question is can he learn to win in the pocket because to play in the NFL, at a certain point, you have to." -- Mike MayockDRAFT ANALYSIS: "He is a big-time gunslinger like Brett Favre. He's got the athletic ability. My question is can he learn to win in the pocket because to play in the NFL, at a certain point, you have to." -- Mike Mayock

"And finally, madame, a wafer-thin mint..."

Yep. Just like it used to be "Ralph_is_Cheap" before the Pegula's bought the team...

I would have preferred a message like "...the last 50 years were all a dream. Except Cris Collinsworth is still a douche."

Drafts are always about the future. But sometimes the future is Now! rather than later. I think this is one of those years. If Josh doesn't step up this year, the house of cards might start to wobble. I don't want any excuses for why he didn't get the right kind of help he needs to take that step (against a tough, tough schedule)...

I agree. And given McD's defensive bias, I can see them going there rather than at WR--which is what 90% of the fan base expects. What do you think of Josh Uche? He's another guy with the movement skills to play both roles in McD's scheme?

Nope. Because he's a jack of all trades, rather than accomplished positional player. I give kids from the big SEC schools an extra plus. But lesser school kids can overcome that (i.e., Ed Oliver) if they have the right tools and development potential. The bottom, line for me is that this year is different. They have to think like a team that's busting through the door, not getting ready for next year or the one after that. Shenault would be dynamite playing for Andy Reid on the Chiefs with all the talent around him. In Buffalo, he'd be the Great WR Hope, with hugh immediate expectations. If he came in and played like Knox did this year (not a bad comparison in terms of playing experience), then it would be a 'miss' rather than a 'hit' to me...

They need to replace Alexander and I think Baun's the kind of kid that could play that dual pass rush/coverage role. His height and debate about his position could drive his draft spot down. OTOH, it might be tough to throw him right into the fire like they did with Edmunds and Milano. With almost three months to go, we'll learn a lot more about where these kids stack up...

Well, we'll agree to disagree. I think there is a time and place to take developmental prospects vs. more polished ones. Last year would have been the perfect example. The Bills were focused on getting better, but didn't yet have a roster capable of making a deep playoff run. So more flexibility to take a kid that had to spend time learning the ropes--sort of like Ed Oliver. Ed had a great year, but he was in a rotation and actually saw Phillips move ahead of him at one point. This year, the expectations have to be higher. Especially if Josh is taking that next step. More polished kids from top programs who've competed in big games--and can (theoretically) step right in and contribute. Like guys from LSU, Alabama etc. versus lesser programs. At least that's what I'd do if I was Beane...

A quality class with a lot more upside...

But year four is the "Go!" year in the process. No more time to wait for McBeane. Either it comes together this year, or they'll start to get fitted for the hot seat...

Can't see Indy at 13 passing on him. They have a huge need at WR. The Bills would have to trade with the Raiders for the #12 pick to move ahead of them... Yeah. They did their DD. But he'd be a bit of a project and I'm not sure the Bills are set up for that this year...

I watched three of his games this year, because I was initially on his band wagon. I came away being more worried than impressed. College football is full of do-it-all players who have a hard time transitioning to 'perfect this' roles in the NFL. I actually think Shenault might be a better RB in today's NFL game than a WR. Especially for a west coast Rams/Chiefs-type offense. He might eventually be a great asset in the Bills scheme, but I want more of a traditional big WR to compliment Brown and Beasley...

Well, yeah. But he'll be long gone by the Bills pick. I'm talking about the best guy available at 22 (or there abouts) who fills the Bills need for a big WR... Right now, I think Shenault's route tree is about the same as Foster's. If we sign AJ Green, then OK, he can marinate. But if he's expected to step in and be effective from day one (with all the pressure that entails), I'd like to see what the alternatives are...

Let the guessing begin on who among the local PFWA members dropped the dime on the Bills.

I worry that an x-factor "RB playing WR" who's a great athlete but not (yet) a great route runner isn't the guy to step in an help Josh right away. Shenault can do a lot of things, but that's sort of a problem for me, in that this offense is very complex and Josh is still learning how to anticipate/read defenses. I'd much rather get a WR who's a good route runner and has the size we need than a gadget-type who might take a while to settle into the NFL...

That's because no one's originally from there. They all move from somewhere else, then immediately start b-wording about all the people moving there after them...

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Does he drive a nice car...to important meetings???

They saw Dobbins 4X as well, although I'm not sure why they'd go RB in round 1. They must think he'll drop quite a bit into an area of the the second round where they might be able to package something to get him. He'd be a nice compliment to (and motivation for) Singletary...

Just stiring TSW's pot. Now that its up to five pages, I might need a bigger kettle...

Justin Jefferson (WR LSU) looks like a guy they're very interested in in Round 2. Something about Tee Higgins rubs me the wrong way (lack of physicality, mostly) and I'd like to not go there...

Yeah, he's not flying under the radar by any means: https://www.charlotteobserver.com/sports/nfl/carolina-panthers/article239622173.html "Teams already knew he has potential. Dugger was visited in Hickory, N.C. this season by over 90 NFL scouts and at least one representative from all 32 teams..."