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Now we know why Buffalo / TSW / life in general is such a ****hole. Complaining is a birthright around here...

Apples and pears. Jones had more targets in his second year alone (102) than Moulds had in his first two years combined (89). It's much more of a passing league today and Jones' production needs to be adjusted to what his contemporaries are putting up, not guys from twenty years ago. Eric Moulds Games Receiving Rushing Total Yds Year Age Tm Pos No. G GS Tgt Rec Yds Y/R TD Lng R/G Y/G Ctch% Y/Tgt Rush Yds TD Lng Y/A Y/G A/G Touch Y/Tch YScm RRTD Fmb AV 1996 23 BUF KR/wr 80 16 5 37 20 279 14.0 2 47 1.3 17.4 54.1% 7.5 12 44 0 11 3.7 2.8 0.8 32 10.1 323 2 1 3 1997 24 BUF KR/WR 80 16 8 52 29 294 10.1 0 32 1.8 18.4 55.8% 5.7 4 59 0 29 14.8 3.7 0.3 33 10.7 353 0 3 2 Zay Jones Games Receiving Rushing Total Yds Year Age Tm Pos No. G GS Tgt Rec Yds Y/R TD Lng R/G Y/G Ctch% Y/Tgt Rush Yds TD Lng Y/A Y/G A/G Touch Y/Tch YScm RRTD Fmb AV 2017 22 BUF WR 11 15 10 74 27 316 11.7 2 33 1.8 21.1 36.5% 4.3 27 11.7 316 2 0 3 2018 23 BUF WR 11 16 15 102 56 652 11.6 7 57 3.5 40.8 54.9% 6.4 1 0 0 0 0.0 0.0 0.1 57 11.4 652 7 1 5

Now he'll have hands..and abs...of stone.

Toronto Argonauts NO NAME POS I/N HT WT AGE COLLEGE 00 Worthy, Chandler WR I 5'9 176 25 Troy 1 Coombs, Anthony WR N 5'9 199 26 Manitoba 10 Edwards, Armanti WR I 5'11 190 31 Appalachian State 11 Charette, Alex WR N 6'1 200 27 Guelph 13 Alford, Mario WR I 5'8 177 27 University of West Virginia 19 Green, S.J. WR I 6'2 216 33 South Florida 80 Carrington II, Darren WR I 6'3 205 24 Utah 81 Smith, Rodney WR I 6'6 219 29 Florida State 82 Williams, Malcolm WR N 6'3 221 25 Langley Rams 84 Noel, Llevi WR N 6'2 210 27 WIndsor AKO (CJFL) 85 Holsey, Kamathi WR I 6'4 215 23 Buffalo 86 Watson, Cole WR I 6'0 185 25 Newberry 87 Walker, Derel WR I 6'2 188 27 Texas A&M 88 Ralph, Jimmy WR N 5'10 185 26 Alberta

One TD in his last 5 games--when his team averaged over 320 yards per game in passing offense. William's wasn't producing at the CFL level when it mattered. Why should we think he can at the NFL level?

Check out his last 6 games with Edmonton last year--when they were making a big push for the playoffs and failed miserably. William's was a non-factor. All his yards and TDs came in the first part of the season...then, meh.

I see a guy who continually falls off the wagon. Gets called out, straightens up for a while, then reverts to bad / lazy habits. He's got some physical talent but I'm not sure about the rest of the package. The NFL is not going to put up with guys who have to be chaperoned very much--especially if they're FAs...

More like one year. This is a guy who was dropped by Auburn, failed miserably as an UDFA with the Rams and came into his first training camp in the CFL unprepaired? What kind of 5-watt light does he have burning upstairs?? https://buffalonews.com/2019/05/04/buffalo-bills-josh-allen-brandon-beane-nfl-draft-vic-carucci-football/ "...Early in his first training camp with the Eskimos, one night after mandatory practices and meetings, Reilly hosted a players-only walkthrough on the field. Reilly was the franchise quarterback, a two-time Grey Cup champion on the way to being named the CFL’s Most Outstanding Player of 2017. He’s since become the third quarterback in league history to throw for more than 5,000 yards in three consecutive seasons, joining Anthony Cavillo and Doug Flutie. Reilly commanded respect. And he didn’t think twice about holding Williams to account. “We were going through some of our no-huddle hand signals,” Reilly recalled, “and I noticed he wasn’t really paying attention how I wanted him to, and so I called him out in front of everybody and asked him what the previous play was and what his route was on it and all that stuff, and he didn’t have an answer for me.” Williams stammered and tried to guess. “And he’s like, ‘Nah, you wrong,’ ” Williams remembered. “He was like, ‘You ain’t going to be here long doing that. This is our job. We feed our families with this.’ ------------------------------------------------- Williams caught 46 passes for 715 yards and four touchdowns in 13 games that season, but once he caught a couple of deep balls, defensive coordinators began to game plan against him, all but eliminating that aspect of his game. Williams' limited repertoire became apparent, as did his poor conditioning. He surpassed 100 receiving yards in four of his first seven games, and then never again down the stretch. Williams’ playing time decreased, along with his productivity, as more capable teammates returned from injuries. Williams recorded no stats in the team’s final five games, all victories until a playoff loss to the Calgary Stampeders in the West Final.

No offense, but he hardly dominated the CFL (who the hell is Brad Sinopoli?) or at Auburn: CFL Stats DATE NAME TEAM GP REC ATT YARDS YAC AVG LG TD 30 1 2018 WILLIAMS, D'haquille EDM 18 88 152 1579 425 17.9 95 11 11 2 2018 BANKS, Brandon HAM 14 94 129 1423 380 15.1 78 11 13 3 2018 SINOPOLI, Brad OTT 17 116 154 1376 486 11.9 38 4 5 4 2018 TASKER, Luke HAM 15 78 111 1104 396 14.2 56 11 5 5 2018 GREEN, S.J. TOR 18 83 155 1095 253 13.2 56 4 7 6 2018 ELLINGSON, Greg OTT 17 91 146 1086 300 11.9 56 5 3 7 2018 BURNHAM, Bryan BC 18 67 109 1029 205 15.4 55 9 10 8 2018 ADAMS, Darvin WPG 17 61 110 1028 224 16.9 72 10 9 9 2018 SPENCER, Diontae OTT 17 81 118 1007 424 12.4 79 7 7 10 2018 EDWARDS, Armanti TOR 18 73 110 974 266 13.3 69 4 8 College Stats Receiving Rushing Scrimmage Year School Conf Class Pos G Rec Yds Avg TD Att Yds Avg TD Plays Yds Avg TD Career Auburn 57 877 15.4 6 0 0 0 57 877 15.4 6 *2014 Auburn SEC JR WR 10 45 730 16.2 5 0 0 0 45 730 16.2 5 *2015 Auburn SEC SR WR 5 12 147 12.3 1 0 0 0 12 147 12.3 1

My concern would be Williams learning the playbook. And since there are no running starts in the NFL and few 180 pound CBs, that play he made in the CFL (while fun to watch) is pretty irrelevant...

Woof...

It would be great if Duke pans out but I just don't see it happening. He's Da'Rick Rogers 2.0 and has a large mountain to climb, IMO. This story in the BN gives me less--not more--good feelings about him as a prospect.... https://buffalonews.com/2019/05/03/buffalo-bills-duke-williams-wide-receiver-viral-nfl-cfl-edmonton-eskimos/

The only thing miles away for me is my interest in listening to Cowerd...

There are tons of guys in the NFL who may not have been 5-start recruits to power five schools but who excel based on their intangibles--desire, intelligence and hard work. Ask Bill Belichick about those types. Or Fred Jackson...

In other words...a prototypical TSW poster!

Reading comprehension is hard on TSW...

That's the same philosophy Polian and Marv had back in the day. On-field production is what matters most, not the underware olympics...

“The three-tech was probably the one, losing Kyle Williams (to retirement), that if you were going to pick a hole that we really wanted to come out of there with, we did. We didn’t know if it would fall our way, but we were sure thrilled that Ed Oliver was there at nine.” http://blog.siriusxm.com/buffalo-bills-brandon-beane-ed-oliver-university-of-houston-nfl-draft/

Then there's this counterpoint, from Fairburn in today's The Athletic (which of course makes Gabriel look even lamer): "...Seeing Oliver’s pro-day workout live cemented it for Beane, though. It wasn’t about how Oliver performed in the drills. It was about how he responded when coaches from various teams wanted to see him run specific drills afterward. Oliver wasn’t getting much rest because there was only one other defensive lineman working out that day. “He kept going,” Beane said. “He didn’t quit. He was huffing there, but he kept going and he never stopped. I liked the fight. He didn’t complain. I was thinking to myself, ‘This guy’s going to die.’ But he answered the questions there.” The questions about Oliver never seemed to surround his ability, but rather his coachability. Beane did the necessary recon, talking to coaches at Houston but also having a 20-minute conversation with former Houston coach Major Applewhite, who is now on Alabama’s staff. Applewhite and Oliver had a public incident on the sideline during a game this season, but Beane left his conversation with Applewhite comfortable with it. “Ed says what’s on his mind, but it’s genuine,” Beane said. “If you want to call it unfiltered, it’s not in a bad way. He’s just going to say what he thinks once he trusts you. When I talked to Major Applewhite, he told me the whole story, how Ed handled it, how he was remorseful. He thought part of it was Ed’s competitiveness. He wanted to be on the field and wasn’t on the field and felt like he was letting his teammates down. Maybe he was a little emotional about that. It was an ESPN game and they blew it up. If it was any other game, it never would have been an issue. It was the perfect storm.”

LOL! That line just blew up his whole credibility to critique Oliver or any player for that matter....

11 total SNAPS (yes you read that right) over four years. Not likely to be remembered much...

I hope Allen can make that kind of throw then. That's was his biggest weakness, from college and last year...

I've never seen a kid with this small a body of work invited to an NFL camp. Receiving & Rushing Receiving Rushing Scrimmage Year School Conf Class Pos G Rec Yds Avg TD Att Yds Avg TD Plays Yds Avg TD Career Alabama 11 101 9.2 2 0 0 0 11 101 9.2 2 *2015 Alabama SEC FR WR 1 1 -3 -3.0 0 0 0 0 1 -3 -3.0 0 *2016 Alabama SEC SO WR 4 4 31 7.8 0 0 0 0 4 31 7.8 0 *2017 Alabama SEC JR WR 4 2 34 17.0 1 0 0 0 2 34 17.0 1 *2018 Alabama SEC SR WR 5 4 39 9.8 1 0 0 0 4 39 9.8 1

Based on what? I don't know much about him but the stats look a little meh. What are we getting in this little guy? Isaiah McKenzie Games Receiving Rushing Total Yds Year Age Tm Pos No. G GS Tgt Rec Yds Y/R TD Lng R/G Y/G Ctch% Y/Tgt Rush Yds TD Lng Y/A Y/G A/G Touch Y/Tch YScm RRTD Fmb Career 19 1 43 22 208 9.5 0 23 1.2 10.9 51.2% 4.8 11 70 2 15 6.4 3.7 0.6 33 8.4 278 2 8 2 yrs DEN 12 0 13 4 29 7.3 0 14 0.3 2.4 30.8% 2.2 1 4 0 4 4.0 0.3 0.1 5 6.6 33 0 6 1 yr BUF 7 1 30 18 179 9.9 0 23 2.6 25.6 60.0% 6.0 10 66 2 15 6.6 9.4 1.4 28 8.8 245 2 2017 22 DEN 84 11 0 13 4 29 7.3 0 14 0.4 2.6 30.8% 2.2 1 4 0 4 4.0 0.4 0.1 5 6.6 33 0 6 2018 23 2TM 8 1 30 18 179 9.9 0 23 2.3 22.4 60.0% 6.0 10 66 2 15 6.6 8.3 1.3 28 8.8 245 2 2 BUF wr 19 7 1 30 18 179 9.9 0 23 2.6 25.6 6.0 10 66 2 15 6.6 9.4 1.4 28 8.8 245 2 2

Quite a resume. Kid was a 4-star recruit (isn't everyone at 'Bama?) and got just a handful of targets over four years. I assume a Dabol connection and only a rookie camp tryout--not a PS slot... Receiving & Rushing Receiving Rushing Scrimmage Year School Conf Class Pos G Rec Yds Avg TD Att Yds Avg TD Plays Yds Avg TD Career Alabama 11 101 9.2 2 0 0 0 11 101 9.2 2 *2015 Alabama SEC FR WR 1 1 -3 -3.0 0 0 0 0 1 -3 -3.0 0 *2016 Alabama SEC SO WR 4 4 31 7.8 0 0 0 0 4 31 7.8 0 *2017 Alabama SEC JR WR 4 2 34 17.0 1 0 0 0 2 34 17.0 1 *2018 Alabama SEC SR WR 5 4 39 9.8 1 0 0 0 4 39 9.8 1