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"What I Didn't Find in Africa" Joseph C. Wilson 4th United States Ambassador In February 2002, I was informed by officials at the Central Intelligence Agency that Vice President Dick Cheney's office had questions about a particular intelligence report. While I never saw the report, I was told that it referred to a memorandum of agreement that documented the sale of uranium yellowcake a form of lightly processed ore by Niger to Iraq in the late 1990's. The agency officials asked if I would travel to Niger to check out the story so they could provide a response to the vice president's office. It did not take long to conclude it was highly doubtful that any such transaction had ever taken place. Based on my experience with the administration in the months leading up to the war, I have little choice but to conclude that some of the intelligence related to Iraq's nuclear weapons program was twisted to exaggerate the Iraqi threat. http://www.nytimes.com/2003/07/06/opinion/what-i-didn-t-find-in-africa.html?pagewanted=1
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"There were about 700 inspections, and in no case did we find weapons of mass destruction," said Hans Blix, the Swedish diplomat called out of retirement to serve as the United Nations' chief weapons inspector from 2000 to 2003; from 1981 to 1997 he headed the International Atomic Energy Agency. http://www.berkeley.edu/news/media/releases/2004/03/18_blix.shtml
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Closer Look at our Saudi "Allies"
truth on hold replied to truth on hold's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
Good riddance.... Prince Saud al-Faisal, Longtime Saudi Foreign Minister, Dies at 75 http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/07/10/world/middleeast/prince-saud-al-faisal-longtime-saudi-foreign-minister-dies-at-75.html?_r=0&referrer= -
There were plenty of credible sources saying there were no WMDs. Any fool could see it was a war of choice and bush & co and media elements were pushing for a justification. That you didn't see it makes you something even short of a fool. But we knew that.
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NYSE resumes trading after unprecedented shutdown
truth on hold replied to truth on hold's topic in Off the Wall Archives
Yeah, because stuff like this could never happen .... Hackers stole Social Security numbers from 21.5 million, govt admits http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/07/09/hackers-stole-social-security-numbers-from-215-million-govt-admits/ -
wtf is wrong with these people? folks, stay away from fireworks LINCOLNTON, N.C. — Tampa Bay Buccaneers defensive back C.J. Wilson severely injured one of his hands in a Fourth of July fireworks accident Saturday, according to the Lincoln Times-News. The former Lincolnton High School football standout lost two fingers in the accident, sources close to the family confirmed to the Times-News. Wilson was home visiting family and friends when the accident happened. http://myfox8.com/2015/07/08/nfl-player-c-j-wilson-loses-2-fingers-in-fireworks-accident-while-home-in-nc/
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NYSE resumes trading after unprecedented shutdown
truth on hold replied to truth on hold's topic in Off the Wall Archives
The actual twitter account .... https://mobile.twitter.com/YourAnonNews/status/618626955433349120 What someone tweeted back ... https://mobile.twitter.com/j_b_mcgee/status/618824156902240260 hmmmm... -
Goodwin attempting to make 2016 Olympics
truth on hold replied to FluffHead's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
It's in Toronto it won't even be far away. Might even be worth checking out in person Buffalo Bills wide receiver Marquise Goodwin was one of 623 athletes named to Team USA on Monday to compete in the 2015 Pan American Games. Goodwin will compete in the long jump at the Games, which will be held from July 10 to 26 in Toronto. http://espn.go.com/extra/panamgames/story/_/id/13217443/marquise-goodwin-buffalo-bills-named-usa-pan-squad -
Weird..... The New York Stock Exchange reopened Wednesday after an unprecedented, nearly four-hour halt in trading that authorities said was caused by a major technical glitch. http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/nyse-trading-has-been-halted/2015/07/08/46b51974-2588-11e5-b72c-2b7d516e1e0e_story.html
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Interesting how Spieth is prepping for the British... Jordan Spieth adds St Andrews to his virtual world before Open test I have got a full swing simulator in my house, Spieth explained. I have played a few holes at St Andrews, made the fairways and greens firm. I was able to see some of the lines off the tees. Obviously it is not the same as being there but at least I get to see some of the holes so when I get there Im not too surprised. I played it once but that was a long time ago. http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2015/jul/07/jordan-spieth-the-open-rory-mcilroy-golfing-simulator
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Closer Look at our Saudi "Allies"
truth on hold replied to truth on hold's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
Jihadis likely winners of Saudi Arabia's futile war on Yemen's Houthi rebels As another 50 civilians die in the forgotten war, only Isis and al-Qaida are gaining from a conflict tearing Yemen apart and leaving 20 million people in need of aid http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jul/07/jihadis-likely-winners-of-saudi-arabias-futile-war-on-yemens-houthi-rebels -
so did Kerry and a lot of the other bozos from both parties. Sanders did make a very eloquent objection: "Mr. Speaker, I do not think any Member of this body disagrees that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant, a murderer, and a man who has started two wars. He is clearly someone who cannot be trusted or believed. The question, Mr. Speaker, is not whether we like Saddam Hussein or not. The question is whether he represents an imminent threat to the American people and whether a unilateral invasion of Iraq will do more harm than good. Mr. Speaker, the front page of The Washington Post today reported that all relevant U.S. intelligence agencies now say despite what we have heard from the White House that ``Saddam Hussein is unlikely to initiate a chemical or biological attack against the United States.'' Even more importantly, our intelligence agencies say that should Saddam conclude that a U.S.-led attack could no longer be deterred, he might at that point launch a chemical or biological counterattack. In other words, there is more danger of an attack on the United States if we launch a precipitous invasion. Mr. Speaker, I do not know why the President feels, despite what our intelligence agencies are saying, that it is so important to pass a resolution of this magnitude this week and why it is necessary to go forward without the support of the United Nations and our major allies including those who are fighting side by side with us in the war on terrorism. But I do feel that as a part of this process, the President is ignoring some of the most pressing economic issues affecting the well-being of ordinary Americans. There has been virtually no public discussion about the stock market's loss of trillions of dollars over the last few years and that millions of Americans have seen the retirement benefits for which they have worked their entire lives disappear. When are we going to address that issue? This country today has a $340 billion trade deficit, and we have lost 10 percent of our manufacturing jobs in the last 4 years, 2 million decent-paying jobs. The average American worker today is working longer hours for lower wages than 25 years ago. When are we going to address that issue? Mr. Speaker, poverty in this country is increasing and median family income is declining. Throughout this country family farmers are being driven off of the land; and veterans, the people who put their lives on the line to defend us, are unable to get the health care and other benefits they were promised because of government underfunding. When are we going to tackle these issues and many other important issues that are of such deep concern to Americans? Mr. Speaker, in the brief time I have, let me give five reasons why I am opposed to giving the President a blank check to launch a unilateral invasion and occupation of Iraq and why I will vote against this resolution. One, I have not heard any estimates of how many young American men and women might die in such a war or how many tens of thousands of women and children in Iraq might also be killed. As a caring Nation, we should do everything we can to prevent the horrible suffering that a war will cause. War must be the last recourse in international relations, not the first. Second, I am deeply concerned about the precedent that a unilateral invasion of Iraq could establish in terms of international law and the role of the United Nations. If President Bush believes that the U.S. can go to war at any time against any nation, what moral or legal objection could our government raise if another country chose to do the same thing? Third, the United States is now involved in a very difficult war against international terrorism as we learned tragically on September 11. We are opposed by Osama bin Laden and religious fanatics who are prepared to engage in a kind of warfare that we have never experienced before. I agree with Brent Scowcroft, Republican former National Security Advisor for President George Bush, Sr., who stated, ``An attack on Iraq at this time would seriously jeopardize, if not destroy, the global counterterrorist campaign we have undertaken.'' Fourth, at a time when this country has a $6 trillion national debt and a growing deficit, we should be clear that a war and a long-term American occupation ofIraq could be extremely expensive. Fifth, I am concerned about the problems of so-called unintended consequences. Who will govern Iraq when Saddam Hussein is removed and what role will the U.S. play in ensuing a civil war that could develop in that country? Will moderate governments in the region who have large Islamic fundamentalist populations be overthrown and replaced by extremists? Will the bloody conflict between Israel and the Palestinian Authority be exacerbated? And these are just a few of the questions that remain unanswered. If a unilateral American invasion of Iraq is not the best approach, what should we do? In my view, the U.S. must work with the United Nations to make certain within clearly defined timelines that the U.N. inspectors are allowed to do their jobs. These inspectors should undertake an unfettered search for Iraqi weapons of mass destruction and destroy them when found, pursuant to past U.N. resolutions. If Iraq resists inspection and elimination of stockpiled weapons, we should stand ready to assist the U.N. in forcing compliance." http://www.sanders.senate.gov/video/flashback-rep-bernie-sanders-opposes-iraq-war But again I don't think he has a realistic chance. Do you? So I take it you're planning to vote for the Hill? Please if you can explain why. I'm genuinely curious because you're one of the more articulate and balanced posters, and I just don't see anything to support voting for her
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New gun control thread!
truth on hold replied to Jim in Anchorage's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
This is why a nation-wide solution is needed. Guns are too portable for control to be effective in isolated areas Groups sue Chicago suburbs for more gun control CHICAGO (Reuters) - A group of civil rights activists on Tuesday filed a lawsuit against three Chicago suburbs to force them to take stricter gun-control measures to stem the flow of weapons into the city's crime-ridden neighborhoods. The complaint filed in Cook County Circuit Court against the towns of Riverdale, Lyons and Lincolnwood said gunshops there, along with stores in Gary, Indiana, supply a fifth of guns seized by police at crime scenes in the city. http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKCN0PH2J620150707?irpc=932 -
Yeah "Douche" Whats the deal Biden? Is he actually running? Sanders is a fun distraction, but doesn't stand a realistic chance. Biden may be the only hope in dem primaries. I'd take him in a heartbeat over her. But then again if take B-man in a heartbeat over her too. Yes it's that bad.
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If there's anyone out there planning on voting for her, serious question: why? What does she stand for? How will things change for the better with her as president? Where has she shown leadership capabilities?
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Greek unemployment rate is 26%. Sometimes you just have to listen what people say: Many people said they had little reason to fear the uncertainty of rejecting Europe's bailout offer after five years of economic pain. I have been unemployed for three years, said Chloe Palaska, 40, once a French-language teacher. What do I have to lose? http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/greeks-cast-ballot-on-nations-future-in-europe/2015/07/05/cbb0a734-20d7-11e5-a135-935065bc30d0_story.html
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Here's the problem in a nutshell; europe will write-off a quarter Trillion in loans if greece defaults, half that if they include debt relief in the bailout package. Coupled with their otjer problems thats a rough pill to swallow. However from greeces perspective, austerity measures without relief never made any sense unless the goal was to delay the inevitable. But for them it just made living standards worse and dragged it out with no hope in sigjt. Greece did the right thing by rejecting the bailout and putting the onus back on Europe. ---------- Now it's Europe's time to decide: Save Greece or not? July 06 LONDON Europe is fighting fires on all sides: Migrants pour in from north Africa. Ukraine teeters on the brink. And the scars of the global financial crisis are still healing. Now the region's leaders have another crisis to deal with, and one that could strike the biggest blow to European integration in 60 years. The Greek people's resounding rejection of Europe's terms for a financial rescue demands a response. Granting Greece debt relief may cost creditors 127 billion euros, most of that falling on Europe, according to RBS analysts. Letting the country go would cost at least 227 billion, they estimate. http://money.cnn.com/2015/07/06/news/economy/greece-crisis-europe-dilemma/
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Trump could be getting in on it now: "People say, 'Oh, you don't like China.' No, I love them," Trump said during his speech. "But their leaders are much smarter than our leaders, and we can't sustain ourself with that. There's too much -- it's like -- it's like, take the New England Patriots and Tom Brady and have them play your high school football team. That's the difference between China's leaders and our leaders." If you're keeping score at home, Trump is basically saying that Bill Belichick and Brady are smarter than everyone in the NFL in the same way that China's Communist President Xi Jinping is smarter than leaders in the United States. Does that mean the Chinese are deflating footballs? Trump didn't say. http://mweb.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/25233714/watch-donald-trump-compares-tom-brady-patriots-to-china
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Global warming err Climate change HOAX
truth on hold replied to Very wide right's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
It's incredible isnt it? It's like talking to people years ago who said smoking cigarettes wasn't bad for you. Just like it didn't take a genius to figure out pouring smoke in your lungs was bad for you ...like they really needed lung cancer stats to confirm it?!!??....how can anyone really think that pouring 40 billion freaking tons of CO2 into the atmosphere every year cannot have rather serious negative consequences??!!!!