truth on hold

Thanks Pooj, good thread

Yes first critical mistake was extending fitz which negated our chance to sign Flynn, for a lot less money and a lot more hope.

YES. But realistically VY never really had a chance to fit in chans system anyway. Its unfortunate because wed have much better prospects with an athlete of his caliber

He's a 100% spot on focusing on the weakness at QB as the critical limiting factor. Lost in all the hype this summer was this hole at the most important position. However he doesn't know if Mario wanted to go to a more legit contender for $20 million less. That's a lot of money to leave on the table for a guy working on his last big contract.

Except if youre an experienced bills guard. Apparently the replacements have scrum-thru vision goggles allowing them see thru other players to make sure our guards are 100% clean at all times. On Williams, Yes I want our players to stand up for themselves, on and off the field. Tactics like that heavily favor the OT and that's why they're strictly enforced. Williams is not known as a trouble maker or whiner, he's been around and has a lot of credibility. You dont get respect and change keeping your mouth shut. Giants players said the same things.

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Related question: cromartie scores TD and untouched by any bills defender does a somersault to the turf in celebration. Shouldnt that be a penalty like on SJ in that same stadium last year ?

After cutting him the big check Chan and nix egos won't let them cut Fitz. That would be admitting a big mistake and shine a light on all their acltivities since taking over. I don't like coach carroll but i fully embraced his rule of who plays has nothing to do with what they're getting paid. Its all about merit.

That's what's had been missing in all the preseason hype this team got: who's going to play quarterback ?

Hopefuls been worst of all by far. Its about time he makes amends. Any time someone raised the slightest doubt on Fitz hed mock them, drone on with tired list of excuses including scapegoating the WRs and oline, and offering up the same cherry picked stats.

I agree. They don't have good blitzing linebackers, pressure is supposed to come from front 4. If they're going to mix it up and send some more I'd like to see from the secondary

3rd rounder hill for the jets sure looked pretty good !

yeah really, what a scam this thread is primarily a hatefest on McKelvin, Spiller and the other DBs after Fitz performance.

I agree and I think brees even more so due to consistently more uptempo pace. But those guys aren't here. You have to be flexible and use the guys that are available and you can win with. No system is so good it justifies putting on the field guys without NFL talent. More irony: combined Ben has been to as many super bowls (3) and has as many wins (2) as Manning and brees combined.

yeap, and if Ben came into compete against Fitz as an unknown, I honestly think in chans way of assessing QBs he doesnt win the job. Chans committment to his system isolates book smart guys at the extreme expense of athletic talent and play making.

It's kind of a trick quick because I can't really be disappointed in Fitz since I've been saying all along how bad he is, and even in preseason got out played by young and thigpen. So he was who I thought he was: someone who has no business starting NFL QB. Given that answer has to be defense. But the catch is the defense has talent and I expect them to get better as they adjust yo all the new faces, scheme and coach. Fitz on the other hand has no where to go

Look again ball couldnt have been stripped because it was always moving, never had it. Idk replay officials were regs. But do they make the final call? Head official sure spends a lot of time looking at the reviews too. I'd be surprised if final decision went to the booth.

Only problem busting on spiller for the fumble it wasn't a fumble! Never had possession. Clear as a bell on the replay. I think that's where replacement refs hurt us, regular ones would have had balls to make the right call

I really hope some players start speaking it. No one is calling out gailey for his allegiance to his bogus systems and pet players.

Hill unfortunately could be the real deal. I was afraid of that and wanted to draft him. You can't coach that kind of size and speed, much less effectively defend it. And Holmes is a big time NFL with all the tricks. During his first game on a day when the line was getting no pressue and the O kept turning over the ball, you can't damn him

Overall fred is the better back. But spillers more effective against jets because his speed to outside. Jets are very tough up the middle.

I opposed the extension. Thought bills should keep their options open. Started having my doubts in Bengals game and turned skeptic with pics he three during giants loss. That game was a clear dichotomy of a qb with a real NFL arm (Eli) and a journeyman backup like fitz.

I think 2.5, so I voted 1-2. Sanchez ais fairly mobile and under duress Tebow can still eek out a couple positive yards. + I think if it becomes clear early on Jets Oline cant handle Bills P-Rush, they quickly switch to running, screens and play action. Even if Bills way ahead (unlikely against Jets D) dont see it as a blowout where Jets will have to commit to all passing/deep drops.

Buti guess its given team's like bills an incentive to ramp up beforehand , be hard to make it all up at one.