truth on hold

fine with me, but I never saw you object to it. Just a lot of back and forth w/ NJ and posts like ... "Of course. I can see how you think "moral high-ground" Israel supporters sound a bit foolish. But still, they won, and I'm okay with that." And you do realize that the "they won" that you're "okay with" and the support we give them that you say is "corrupt and self-serving" is somehow, kind of, sort of, maybe ..... ummmm, related? And please spare me, with the goofballs who dominate PPP I wouldn't want it any other way than them name calling me ... matter of fact, it would be highly disturbing to be accepted by them

thats quite an admission for someone who supports them, but shockingly you're not alone. Good lord what's happened to this country and it's bizarre support for that s#&@ty apartheid state

have fun in that trailer of yours, and keep the guns next to your cot. It's not like there's anything worth stealing in there, but if guns are your teddy bear go for it

forget "might makes right", why do we support them? Why is it in our interests given the immense costs? 2-state is done, no way all the settlers can be moved back. You have to go for option 2, which is better anyway since you'll have equal access to all the land.

most people would follow this, but in your case to be clear not being able to respond to specific allegations regarding the costs of US support for Israel makes you an idiot (among other things, none of them flattering)

not being able to respond to points makes you one

- $3B+/year aid is indisputable - we waste a ton of favors at the UN and with other nations culling support for Israel - we're viewed as hypocrits for the one-sided support - Bin Laden cited our support for Israel and treatment of Palestineans as a motive for 9/11 -- again, indisputable - Is it even worth commenting on the amount of time our politicians waste on the mideast?

i cant follow basketball until semi-finals, so I dont know much about cavs. What is the rest of the team like? w/ James who/what else do they need to be a contender?

funny though in announcing he's taking his talents to lake erie's south beach, he concedes they're not ready for a title ... wow.

if Palistineans get hold of Israel's nuclear arsenal in Dimona, in response to Israeli aggression you'd support them nuking Israeli cities?

TakeYouToTasker, on 10 July 2014 - 01:51 PM, said: I know this wasn't directed at me, but I'll respond anyway: I am a firm believer in total war, and see no merit to restraining yourself to a proportional response. When at war, the only correct and moral action for the preservation of your own people, treasure, and safety (Which are the only things that should be considered, period.) is the complete destruction or conquest of your enemy, it's culture, and it's treasure; or their immediate and complete surrender to your terms. And in regards to the Palestineans you said Israel "should drive them all in the sea"

not my logic, it's TTT's ... been stated several times. And even then you're misapplying it. He says that when you have the chance to totally eradicate your enemy ... "drive them all in the sea" ... the rational, moral thing is to do so. Did the Japanese the power to drive all Americans in the sea in 1941? Do the Iranians and NKoreans have the ability to do that now?

OMG. With Johnny Football and Lebron, Cleveland now becomes the media hotbed of US sports

you serious? WWII was fought due to economic reparations from WWI accords!!!!!!! economics and war are closely related, often seamless. the "dumbness of the argument" is simply your "logic" turned back on you. so when are the "democratic" "self reflective" Israelis going to demolish the jewish terrorist homes?

words are useless, why dont they "reflect" on the fact that they blow up the homes of pali terrorists (even if theyre just suspects), because they say its a deterrent to further terrorism, and go blow up the homes of the 3 admitted jewish terrorists who kidnapped and burned the pali kid alive as are many palis against hostile acts of other palis, yet TTT wants to "drive them all in the sea"

I hated the mccargo pick. BTW on paper our front 7 looks stacked: #1 overall pick #3 overall pick #9 overall pick #22 overall pick #31 overall pick 2nd round pick The one pick outside of the first 2 rounds has been to 2 Pro bowls

Powerful businessmen and bankers boycotting your country in the middle of the great depression is indeed a very threatenining, existential risk. They were an enemy of the Nazi state and they had power to do serious harm. The nazis had the power to retaliate and by your warped logic they did the rational thing. Its that simple. Your myriad attempts to spin and twist artificial distinctions simply exposes your hypocrisy.

Yes, netanyahu and his merry band of settler extremist thugs

There's no point debating what they were or weren't. Their goal was to represent world Jewry and they instigated economic boycotts of Nazi Germany. Just like with the palis you want to "drive all of them in the sea" for the actions of some of them. Say hello to Adolph's logic And by the way palis don't technically have a state either ... not in any true way. So the nation state distinction you're trying to make further weakens your argument

Good catch, sorry man. I knew was a 1st round and just assumed it was Bengals.

The First Preparatory World Jewish Conference was held in Geneva in August 1932

many newspapers and even Jewish leaders used the term "war" .... Google it. But call it what you will: war, economic boycott, whatever...goal was to starve the Nazi party. And according to TTT's mantra of total eradication of the enemy, holocaust was justified. He's got a sick mind. But given the hypocrisy with some here, its cool as long as it's applied to palis-only

As an american you have plenty at stake: - $3 billion+ tax dollars/year in aid - credibility at UN - political capital with other nations - image globally - blowback when terrorists fly planes in our buildings and cite support for Israel as a reason - politicians focused on Mideast instead of Americas problems at home

Odd factoid: if rivers and Lawson start @lb in 4-3, 2 of our 3 starting lb's will be former 1st round bengals picks

My comment clearly was that I don't know the roots, but the premise of the statement on the alledged creation of al Qaeda and hamas was not the same logic. You have the IQ of a single cell animal.