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ESPN/Metallica SportsCenter promo
truth on hold replied to The Poojer's topic in Off the Wall Archives
I'm not a drummer (nor do I play one on TV), but isn't the work on One fairly complicated, and doesnt he pretyy much stick to the studio version live? Metallica - One (Live) [Metallica Through the Nev…: A lot of the other live stuff I agree he just pounds away, but isn't that the nature of their concerts? -
What are you talking about you idiot? Israel doesn't fight any battle for us .... We're not at war with Hamas or syria. We fight theirs, directly in places like Iraq, indirectly in syria, at great cost. This vague "foothold" notion you toss around means nothing.
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Given its decades old occupation and horrific human Rights record its right there at the bottom of the barrel where it should be next to north Korea. The anti-semite charge is just BS to deflect the Israelis from responsibility. Note the poll is views on countries not on religions.
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Interesting read..... The near total separation of Israelis and Palestinians was intended to make both safer. It’s made things worse The French philosopher Ernest Renan once defined a nation as “a group of people united by a mistaken view about the past and a hatred of their neighbours.” And while that arguably applies to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, my sense is that the deterioration we are witnessing results from something else — the growing human distance between Israelis and Palestinians who once knew each other intimately and are now virtual strangers. The change has taken place over the past 10 to 15 years because it was widely felt that mixing caused trouble and the two peoples needed to be separated if they were ever to live side by side. A result, however, has been a heightened dehumanization that has allowed the murder of four teenagers to escalate in just a few days into a series of devastating Israeli airstrikes that have killed scores and Palestinian rocket attacks that have displaced thousands. During the 1980s and ’90s, tens of thousands of Palestinians from the West Bank and Gaza Strip worked in Israel. They learned Hebrew and built relations with their Israeli employers. They watched Israeli television (there was little else available), and many developed a cautious but unmistakable admiration for Israeli politics and public accountability. When Palestinians talked of building a state, it was not uncommon to hear members of their elite refer to Israel as a model. They witnessed the robust (sometimes brutal) nature of public discourse in Israel, and many liked what they saw. In turn, Israelis would venture on weekends into the West Bank, where they would get their cars fixed, shop for vegetables and snack on plates of unparalleled hummus. They attended weddings of their Palestinian employees and their children. Some Israelis and Palestinians even went into business together. http://fullcomment.n...e-things-worse/
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good at least we agree that defense of Israel is nothing but hollow BS, and those claiming it "retarded" in your words
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well actually I conceded it's a complicated, nuanced argument starting with defining it. I'd agree with this wiki summation as a generalization: "No consensus exists on how to define democracy, but legal equality, freedom and rule of law have been identified as important characteristics since ancient times" and whether we're talking about Israel proper, or Israel including the occupied territories it fails miserably on the characteristic of "legal equality, freedom and rule of law". And if you're saying those aren't defining characteristics, then who gives a s#@t when someone claims "Israel is the only democracy"? means nothing in terms of values
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what good is value of vote when there's "institutional and legal" discrimination? If having a vote is your standard for democracy, then Syria is equally democratic.
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If you want to hang on that word, and leave open the possibility that "democratic" values provides for occupying millions with no rights and arbitrarily determining who's "eligible" for equal treatment, then go ahead. (I'd strongly argue that's not what democratic values conveys nor what's meant in that context). So let's examine Israel under your narrower definition: The Or Commission, set up to explain the October 2000 unrest in many Israeli Arab communities found, "The state and generations of its government failed in a lack of comprehensive and deep handling of the serious problems created by the existence of a large Arab minority inside the Jewish state. Government handling of the Arab sector has been primarily neglectful and discriminatory. The establishment did not show sufficient sensitivity to the needs of the Arab population, and did not take enough action in order to allocate state resources in an equal manner. The state did not do enough or try hard enough to create equality for its Arab citizens or to uproot discriminatory or unjust phenomenon. According to the 2004 U.S. State Department Country Reports on Human Rights Practices for Israel and the Occupied Territories, the Israeli government had done "little to reduce institutional, legal, and societal discrimination against the country's Arab citizens. http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism_in_Israel
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Armenia is its own country (and more democratic than Israel BTW) so I'm not sure what that refers to. And yes there's some discontent among the Kurdish community at times, but they're not discriminated against like Palestinians by, for example, being restricted from jewish-only roads. And there's no UN mandate for a Kurdish nation in turkey. Pretty silly really to compare Kurds in turkey to palis in Israel. Lebanon as a parliamentary democracy another one that's arguably more democratic than Israel.
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"Democracy is a form of government in which all eligible citizens participate equally—either directly or indirectly through elected representatives—in the proposal, development, and creation of laws. It encompasses social, religious, cultural, ethnic and racial equality, justice, and liberty." No consensus exists on how to define democracy, but legal equality, freedom and rule of law have been identified as important characteristics since ancient times." http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democracy Sound like Israel to you? Nope me either I think you have to look on a case by case basis. Its kind of a complicated issue, and one could argue at least Iraq, turkey and palestinean people are more democratic. But when you occupy an entire population of millions like isrsel IMO that puts you in the back of the class.
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How is Israel a democracy? That implies equal rights for everyone. In their case Laws and penalties vary based on ethnicity....blatant recent example is destroying Arab terrorist homes, but not Jewish terrorists. And they occupy an area with millions of people who have virtually no rights at all. If those are democratic values i want no part of them.
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I get that a non-American who identifies with west bank settlers like meazza pulls this crap, but the American non-israeli fanatics are the shocking ones. Not a single peep out of them about that p^@%k Netanyahu, how he helped sucker US into Iraq, has been trying same on Iran, and makes a mockery of every US-brokered peace attempt, all the while cashing $3+ billion checks from us every year. That creep presents the greatest risk to getting Americans senselessly killed out of any leader in the world. I guess some of them are simply fooled by media like Fox, and thinking that no politician could be so corrupt to send Americans to war to appease AIPAC. sadly not true. A lot of Buffalonians are vulnerable to this, because theyre patriotic and honest, and lets face it sheltered. It's really them I feel the greatest pity for ... what a shame some of them get sent overseas to die like this. I guess that more than anything is why I spend time posting here, if I can help save at least one of them it's worth it
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Can't help but to let out a hearty LOL at a pro-israel goofball calling out someone for having a double standard.
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Ummm because that's what the israeli media and politiciamns have been calling them. But if you want to refer to them as just Israelies, fine by me. That means when Israeli Arabs commit acts of terror they should simply be referred to as Israelis as well. And not that its needed, but removing the distinction just all the more reason to demolish their homes.
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HEY NETANYAHU WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO DEMOLISH THE HOMES OF THE 3 JEWISH TERRORISTS WHO BURNED THIS POOR WOMAN'S SON TO DEATH? http://youtu.be/pGE1qgSC_2M
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Lol true just like that whole team. He's a terrible announcer too offers no insight and his excitable high pitched voice is unbearable.
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The ongoing source is the occupation. Whenever you have one nation occupying another there'll be conflict ... especially when the populations are of relatively equal size. The source of the current bombing of Gaza is netanyahus political motive to scapegoat Hamas. When they reconciled with Fatah and both US and Europe recognized the new government it put netanyahu in awkward position. When the 3 boys were abducted instead of making a focused attempt to recover them he saw this a political opportunity to blame hamas and killed some of them in Gaza. That a leader of a country behaves like this should be an affront to anyone with morals anywhere. That he holds a lot of sway in Washington and is constantly angling to sucker us into his wars, should be an outrage to Americans. He poses the greatest risk of getting Americans senselessly killed of any leader in the world
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How the heck could someone be a miami fan growing up in WNY? Youngstown's proximity to Toronto have something to do with it? Always seem to be a strong Miami following there
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I know they're professionals and everything, but still I wonder how a Daryl Johnson, for example, whose from WNY and grew up a bills fan, felt about tearing bills fans hearts out in 2 super bowl losses. Especially playing for an obnoxious coach and owner who just belittled us. I'll never have the talent to play for a pro team, but still I can't imagine coming into the Ralph and playing against the bills.
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Four years ago, archaeologist Andreas Vlachopoulos started fieldwork in Astypalaia, a Greek island in the Aegean Sea. But it wasn't until recently that he made what might be his strangest discovery yet: Racy inscriptions and phallic drawings from the fifth and sixth centuries B.C. chiseled into limestone and preserved for millennia show what may be the oldest erotic graffiti in the world. While this graffiti is hilarious, it does serve an important purpose. Archaeologists are not studying these ancient scribbles just for kicks. They provide important insight into social mores and customs of the time. For instance, one work from Astypalaia — which reads, "Nikasitimos was here mounting Timiona" — offers a frank depiction of homosexuality that is uncommon elsewhere. http://mic.com/articles/92961/archaeologists-have-uncovered-hilariously-raunchy-ancient-graffiti
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House Republicans Suing The President
truth on hold replied to Trump_is_Mentally_fit's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
get a real freaking platform, something that actually resonates with American voters. In case you havent noticed "bomb Iran", "guns don't kill people, people do" and "God is my co-pilot" aren't working -
sorry perhaps I thought it was sarcasm comparing US as the recipient of aid in one case to donor in the other. so to answer the obvious recipients obviously dont question how it's obtained they're just cashing checks, but as the donor we damn well should care where it's going and who's benefiting ... actually we should be obsessing over it. I really don't give a s#^t that Omar is organizing a rock throwing protest in Gaza. As for "intelligence" outside the apartheid state, Id steer as far away from the BS that a Netanyahu cooks up as I possibly could. That POS just tries to sucker US into fighting his f%@$ing wars http://youtu.be/MMsaGTAUWd4
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House Republicans Suing The President
truth on hold replied to Trump_is_Mentally_fit's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
Obamas response is spot on: instead of silly symbolic lawsuits, why don't they actually do something to help Americans? Republican party has become a pathetic joke that stands for nothing. -
So who do you think are the beneficiaries of the corrupt aid that goes to the dirty hands of the Israelis? Are you saying its corrupt but it benefits us citizens so its OK? Instead of us citizens, might it be benefitting special interest groups and individuals, to the detriment of us citizens? Who might those special interest groups and individuals be?